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8 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:
I thought you were citing a sketchy paper. You weren't. It's a real study by reputable scientists in Sweden.
But ... IT DOESN'T SAY WHAT YOU CLAIM.
Read the abstract. It confirms waning effectiveness of the non-mRNA vaccine, possibly going to zero after 121 days, whereas the mRNA remains effective, although at a reduced level.
Therefore, it concludes that there is a strong case for boosters.
Really, some of you anti-vaxxers will twist facts any which way to prove a stupid, made-up point about highly effective vaccines somehow "ruining" your immune system.
Here's the conclusion of the Swedish study. Show me where it says "COVID-19 vaccines actually ruin your immune system over time" You should be embarrassed to have posted something so completely untethered to reality.
Interpretation: Vaccine effectiveness against symptomatic Covid-19 infection wanes progressively over time across all subgroups, but at different rate according to type of vaccine, and faster for men and older frail individuals. The effectiveness against severe illness seems to remain high through 9 months, although not for men, older frail individuals, and individuals with comorbidities. This strengthens the evidence-based rationale for administration of a third booster dose.
That’s right that the data and the conclusion do not match.
It does show that1) the 2 dose regimen fails miserably at providing lasting protection to anyone who it’s supposed to protect
2) VE actually turns negative
3) you need to rebuy some level of immunity every quarter.
say it with me:
vaccine
failure
4 hours ago, Sundancer said:
Bakin is against vaccines. A bunch of others say they don’t work.
I think only one person advocates for mandates.
Don’t speak for me. You don’t know what I’m against. Certainly not against safe effective and necessary vaccines.
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38 minutes ago, ALF said:
Proof ? serious question
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3949410
negative efficacy at 7-9 months.
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On 11/8/2021 at 8:41 PM, Sundancer said:
Hot garbage chart with hot garbage data from a hot garbage resource.
Same people who told us COVID is more deadly than the Spanish flu.Your vaccine is *****. It’s not even a vaccine.
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And every shot you get wrecks your immune system just a little bit more and increases your risk profile.
some of these people are in so deep that they will be lining up for monthly boosters…until of course, COVID kills them.
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1 hour ago, Sundancer said:
You didn’t understand it in August and you’ve been an anti-vax apologist since.
There is waning immunity from the vaccine, much higher for those at higher risk. That’s a proven fact—now. And yet it’s still the best tool we have to fight COVID. Get vaccinated. Get boosted.
Big Blitz can now attack the idea of boosters some more. You can too.
it was a risky experiment 10 months ago.
Now the lab has been blown to smithereens and some of you are still screaming: “but we have some excellent results here!!!”
vax your 5 year old.
Get 10 boosters!
it’s not like the ‘vaxx’ is already at negative efficacy 6 months later.
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2 hours ago, 716er said:
Another hot take vaccine thread
This forum is hot garbage
Sorry. Just more and more facts that slams to the ground the VaxTards theory of ‘effective and necessary’ injections.
here’s another one from today:
Saturday's scheduled matchup between California and USC in Berkeley has been postponed due to additional positive COVID-19 tests in the Cal football program, the school announced on Tuesday. Cal was without multiple players due to positive COVID-19 tests last weekend in the loss to Arizona, even though the school reported that the football program is 99% vaccinated. This is the first FBS game to be affected by the COVID-19 pandemic this season.
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Here’s the list
www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/analysis/covid-19-list-tracker-for-players-nfl-policies/amp/
anyone want to guess what percentage of them are stabbed vs unstabbed?
this is all theatre. Nonsense.
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22 minutes ago, dorquemada said:
Did you feel like the Bills were in control of the game at any point?
Yea. Until the refs called Tre on that penalty in the first quarter. After that, no.
but that’s irrelevant. The game was never wildly out of hand. We could have won in the last Minute.
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31 minutes ago, dorquemada said:
Yeah I mean, Diggs was a top 3 receiver last year so lets make sure to ignore him, or only go to him when the game is wildly out of hand, which in the case today was what, early 3rd quarter? Now we can look forward to the Jags owning us forever too. What a garbarge performance by the most overrated team on the NFL in recent memory. At least this should put to rest the grandiose power rankings and Super Bowl odds
Seriously, 6 points? How many of the drought era teams had games where we only scored 6?
Wildly out of hand?
where do you people get your nutty takes?
Coming into the game we had the number one scoring offense and defense in the league.Comments like yours are just plain dumb.
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6 minutes ago, The Wiz said:
From what I've heard/seen, most professional golfers are pricks because all they are trained to care about is themselves.
Everyone loves Phil on TV but apparently he is one of the worst players on tour and to fans in the stands.
I met Charley Hoffman in Phoenix too. He was a prick.
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I got a selfie with George Wilson in an elevator in Phoenix in 2007 (?).
He was cool when I asked him who he was.
when I met golfer Padraig Harrington in an elevator in Amsterdam a few years back he wasn’t as kind. I asked him who he was … asked him how he played in the tournament…He told me just shot 80 and I was like ‘I’d kill to shoot 80!’ And he said ‘stick to hockey!’ (No idea how he knew I was Canadian!)
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Bass’ boot is like Allen’s arm.
A little ankle flick and the ***** travels 75 yards.
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3 hours ago, RobbRiddicksTDLeap said:
I should’ve changed my shirt. I thought about it, and said “nah, this is the right
one.”
I was wrong. Sorry everyone.
My shirt has been gold for the last 4 weeks.
It had an off night last night.
Quick trip to the laundry.A lonely hang in the closet for 2 weeks.
No worries - it’ll be back.
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35 minutes ago, Virgil said:
Nope. Not even 1 out of 10 times. Stupid call. Take the tie and bank on either getting the ball first or your defense.
I hated it the moment they stayed on the field. They called the play everyone knew was coming and got beat where the Titans kicked their ass all game.
This loss is on McD as much as it is on the defense.
Awful take.
Justawful.
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See ya in the Super Bowl Zach!
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100% blame Bill Bellichek
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9 hours ago, Process said:
Based on Beanes comments in the off-season, Bojo didn't want to stay in Buffalo.
How can a punter be a diva?
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I just want to reiterate
MATT MILLON IS THE WORST
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Matt Millen IS THE WORST
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Why don’t you cry about it?
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11 hours ago, oldmanfan said:
I have a doctorate in Anatomy and have done cell biological and clinical research for over 40 years, plus I teach physiology (including basic immunology) and sit on an FDA advisory panel.
Viruses are not cells. They are basically packages of DNA or RNA generally with a protein coat (capsid) that allows the virus to attach to the host cell. The Covid-19 spike protein is an example of such. Upon entry into the host cell the viral DNA uses the host cell’s protein synthetic apparatus to create more copies of the virus. Eventually the cell dies, the now multiple copies of the virus go on to infect other cells and propagation continues.
Vaccines work by inducing the immune system to either make antibodies (humoral response) that block the viral receptors on host cells or induce T cell responses (cellular immunity) that recognize and kill the virus. Either way, vaccines induce immune responses that decrease the ability of viruses to infect cells, and when that happens the virus is deprived of its ability to propagate. This is basic virology and immunology.
Now, what is your background, and do you want to continue arguing?
You’ve got me for sure.
Honors Biology - heavily focused on biotech and immunology. Lab work for several years after graduation.What you said, though, was wrong because these vaccines are not actually vaccines.
They aren’t stopping propagation which is evidenced by case spikes following immunization. The vaccines aren’t sterilizing and they confer no immunity.
They don’t stop or even slow transmission at any appreciable rate. Viral loads are similar in vaccinated as in unvaccinated. Vaccinated suppress symptoms and likely spread at much higher rates (like flu vax recipients - 600% higher viral load than non flu Vax recipients in one study). LEAKY Vaccines create the selection pressure and the breeding ground from virulent variants.
These are not vaccines - they are therapeutics.
The virus will be here forever - animal reservoirs, and this terrible failed experiment of vaccinating mid pandemic with a leaky, novel, experimental, dangerous therapeutic - the most dangerous ‘vaccine’ ever created.
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1 hour ago, oldmanfan said:
The virus may hang around, but by vaccinating as many as possible you deprive the virus of hosts to propagate and/or mutate.
WRONG
So wrong.
insanely wrong.
Please let us know your science background, please?
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9-11 Tavern for wings.
best!you will wait for them but boy are they special.
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It's Time to Mandate Vaccines
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You aren’t wrong. No one is against vaccines (it’s too bad these ones are such a colossal failure).
the biggest issue is, as you say, the government creating a two tier society through mandates and coercion.