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On 9/28/2022 at 7:02 PM, Einstein said:
There is a reason why they are backups.
Need the RB’s to block better as well.
Singletary isn't late recognizing the blitz here. He's late recognizing that Dawkins got beat 1v1 at the speed of light.
Singletary is supposed to pick up the delayed blitz in this protection, Dawkins is supposed to handle the 1v1 on the outside.
If you watch the play as it develops, the Dolphins do bring a delayed blitz with #15 up the middle. And Singletary would have been in position to pick him up if not for trying to cover for Dawkins.
Josh read the defense correctly and had us in in the correct protection. Dawkins single handedly blew it.
See the full clip below.
On 9/28/2022 at 7:14 PM, gobills404 said:In the full clip it looks more like Dawkins just got smoked
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1st & 10 at TEN 40
(3:18 - 1st) Z.Moss right end to TEN 40 for no gain (R.McCreary).
2nd & 10 at TEN 40
(2:40 - 1st) (Shotgun) J.Allen pass short right to S.Diggs to TEN 31 for 9 yards (T.Avery).
3rd & 1 at TEN 31
(2:10 - 1st) (Shotgun) Z.Moss up the middle to TEN 31 for no gain (Z.Cunningham).
4th & 1 at TEN 31
(1:18 - 1st) (Shotgun) J.Allen pass incomplete short right to Z.Moss (Z.Cunningham).
Giving touches to Zach Moss killed this drive. He’s sub-replacement level and shouldn’t touch the ball until garbage time
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Remember when a bunch of ya’ll tried to tell me I was wrong about Zach Moss costing this team wins?
He’s literally trash. A drive killer.
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1 minute ago, Beck Water said:
I don't GAF about your "eye test" or your need to have a whipping boy (though Your Kink is OK).
The point is, 3.5 yds moves the chains. If we move the chains we sustain drives.
Did Moss help sustain drives by gaining yards so that the Bills could avoid or convert 3rd downs and score? Yes or no?
(Spoiler: The answer is "Yes")
Moss hurt the team by fumbling.
That's the problem, not you second-guessing professional football coaches on their player e v a l and usage.
Moss helped the least of all players on the Bills to move the chains.
He gained 1 first down on his 12 touches. 3 yards per touch.
He didn't fight for extra yards and gain a first down a single time.
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14 minutes ago, Beck Water said:
The Rams, in fact, didn't beat the Bills by leaving the checkdown to Moss open all game. The Bills did not punt 1 time. The only thing stopping the Bills offense last night was.....mistakes by the Bills offense.
One of which, to be fair, was on Moss
The Steelers and Jags actually did beat the Bills by leaving the checkdown open all game - because Josh Allen refused to use it immediately, when the checkdown outlet has time and space to actually gain 6 or 8 yards, or at least make it back to the LOS
Do some math. 6 catches for 21 yds is 3.5 yds per reception. That moves the chains.
I mean this in a kind way, but you really need to learn some football beyond looking at stats.
Moss fails the eye test. The stats back up the failed eye test.
Of running backs last season who totaled 10 or more targets on the season, 3.5 yards per reception would rank 78th out of 79.
Do you want the 78th worst ypc running back in the league getting most of our check-down volume?
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1 hour ago, Beck Water said:
More than 1 RAC where Moss picked up a decent gain. Go back and look.
You're right about the fumble though. You could tell from McDermott's presser that he agrees and Moss is gonna be in the dog-house for that one.
Then you're mistaken.
Motor was getting the majority of the carries as an RB.
Decent gain?? 8 yards??
Moss had a long gain of 8 yards receiving. And a long of 8 yards in the run game.
6 rush for 15 yards. Long of 8. Pitiful
Take out the long:
5 rush 7 yds or 1.4yards/rush avg. Pitiful.
6 catches for 21 yards. Long of 8. Pitiful
Take out the long
5 for 13yds, 2.6yards/catch avg. Again, it's pitiful.
Motor got 8 Rush attempts to Moss's 6.
Motor 2 pass attempts to Moss's 6.
Motor got 10 touches to Moss's 12.
Motor put up 62 yards to Moss's 36.
6.2 yards per touch to 3 yards per touch.
If you want to beat the Bills, leave the check-down to Moss open all game.
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1 hour ago, Beck Water said:
I don't want to call you an idiot. Let's say you're writing like a person without much understanding of what you see in the chess match of football.
Moss didn't lead the team in touches because the game plan called his number on a team-leading number of plays. The Rams were playing to take away the deep and intermediate stuff and betting that the same Josh Allen who got throttled by Pittsburgh using that strategy last season opener (and embarrassingly, by Jax), would get throttled the same way or force the throw and get picked (that happened).
Moss led the team in touches because he, like Singletary, was the check-down option in the passing game on a night when Josh needed to get the ball out quick in the face of pressure. Moss had 2 more touches than Motor, so it's not as though he was being given a ton more, they were dividing the load between the two backs. And probably it would have been more Cook and less Moss in that role except they needed the best chipping and blocking from the RBs and also, Cook fumbled.
Go look at some of the stuff quoted from Jalen Ramsey. "I feel like we kind of had a mentality like, 'bend, don't break' a lot, because they were driving the ball but they weren't scoring, like, we were getting turnovers, interceptions, whatever it was." That was their strategy, give up the short stuff, wager that Josh won't take it, and capitalize on mistakes.
Instead, Allen showed that now, this year, he was willing to dink and dunk and take the checkdown. This is a HUGE step forward in Josh's game. Collinsworth correctly commented that earlier in his career, Josh wouldn't have done that. I was literally jumping up and down and screaming because it's been the "missing piece" in his passing game. You wanna send everyone on a jailbreak? *Flick* get it out and at least get back to the LOS. Get 1 yd, 2 yds, 7 yds, 8 yds. Average 3.5 yds per reception.
It moved the chains. 10 plays, 11 plays, 15 plays. Then when LA figured out that strategy of letting the Bills grind down the field was working against their need for points, they decided to send the house (cover 0) and Josh burned them like a blowtorch, right down the middle of the field to Davis.
The only problem was Moss fumbling. He can't do that. Ditto Cook. Muscle Hamster has to tuck it away and not double-catch it if he wants to be The Man in the slot. And I need to watch to see what happened with Crowder. My first impression was Josh shouldn't have thrown that one, but Crowder could have come back towards the ball and boxed out the defender. I think that's a familiarity with Josh thing, the QB's he's played with would throw an arc you can't come back for instead of a dart.
The 4 turnovers were the problem, not Moss getting lots of options because he was the checkdown option in the passing game against the league's best defender, causing Josh to need to get the ball out quick.
I personally would like to see MORE touches for Moss and Singletary and fewer designed runs for Josh. Josh may love it and laugh as he's hit (Singletary said he was) but I don't want to see another season where Josh Allen is the best RB on the Bills.
And other teams will also key in on forcing us to rely on our check-down options. Moss being the worst option on the team and one of the worst in the league.
It's not rocket science to say that if we're being forced to rely on check-down options, we should want good players in that position. And Moss is not.
Moss did not move the chains. Practically every 3rd/4th down was a result of giving moss the ball on 1st or 2nd down.
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If the Bills continue to rely on Moss to lead the team in touches, it's going to cost them wins.
6 carries for 15 yards, and 1 fumble. That's 2.5 yards per carry.
6 catches for 21 yards on 6 targets. 3.5 yards per catch. (credit to Moss for catching all 6 targets)
12 total touches/targets for 36 yards or 3 yards per touch.
The Bills attempted 31 passes and ran the ball 24 times (excluding the final kneel down).
55 offensive plays and Moss got the ball on 12 or 21.8% of the total.
More than 1 in 5 plays went to Moss. Yet he accounted for 36 of 412 total yards of offense. 8.7% of the total yards, or about 1 in 12.
Midway into the 3rd Moss accounted for +25% of the total touches. That's more than 1 in 4.
In one of the best offenses in the league Moss consistently has put up pedestrian like numbers. He's average on a good day and below average on most days. He's the least talented and least effective player on offense, yet we give him the largest share of the touches. It's mind blowing.
And it's not like feeding Moss the ball stopped Allen from taking hits either...
I don't see how giving the worst offensive skill player on the team the most touches is a winning strategy in the long term.
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6 minutes ago, Iverwig said:
Moss has looked good. Motor has been better but Miss is doing well for a backup.
Moss has 25% of the total offensive touches for the Bills, leading the team. They are feeding him touches like he’s a super star.
Moss 3.3 yards per touchSingletary 9 yards per touch
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Screw this “let’s give Zach Moss every other drive” crap. Put motor back in and put this game away
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Wow is our defense good at racking up sacks. Been saying it since last trade deadline, I wish we were the team that had traded for Von. Would have been us winning the SB
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Before that last 13 yard drive for the Bills, Zach Moss accounted for 25%(6 touches) of the total offensive touches, and only 11.5%(20yards) of the Bills total yards.
That’s wayyyy too many touches for a player with 0 upside.
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Our defensive scheme has a really high floor, but a really low ceiling, and it works without any game breaking talent. It's why we crush bad to mediocre offenses and then can get crushed by some good offenses that adjust to our scheme, who usually have game breaking talents on offense. We play a very vanilla scheme and basically never throw in any exotic looks or blitzes or adjustments.
And when our scheme breaks, it breaks badly. I think there was a stat that we allowed something like the fewest 10+ yard runs against, but the most 20+ yard runs.
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23 hours ago, ScottLaw said:
Picture a Rams like approach with Josh Allen as your QB…. Nobody is beating you.
Bills trade for Von Miller + OBJ and that's Josh lifting the Lombardi, not Stafford.
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No, lotteries do nothing to prevent tanking.
And lotteries are actually worse at distributing high picks.
Edmonton Oilers only finished last twice, but they picked 1st overall 4 times in 6 years.
New York Rangers have picked 1st and 2nd overall in back to back years while finishing like 10th last.
The Buffalo Sabres have finished last 4 times in the past 8 years and only picked 1st twice.
As a fan, if you suffer through a last place season, you deserve the 1st pick in the draft.
There's plenty of risk involved for ownership and management as well. Look at the Sabres. They botched the rebuild following the tank and now 3 general managers/front offices later and the Pegulas are bleeding 10's of millions of dollars every season for close to a decade and have nothing to show for it on the ice or in their bank account.
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Edmunds reminds me of former Buffalo Sabre Rasmus Ristolainen.
Big freak of an athlete. All the elite physical tools to be a hall of famer, but no tool box. He thinks the game in slow motion, is always 1 or 2 steps behind the play, rather than 1 step ahead. Even the few times he's in position to make a big TFL or stop a guy short he usually wiffs on the tackle.
I guess the real question is, are there better players out there and available? He's made 2 pro-bowls, seems like the talent level at this position is severely lacking league wide. But would the team be better off plugging in "just a guy" where Edmunds usually is? Would we even notice a difference?
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It’s driving me nuts that Taylor Lewan is allowed to fidget around in his stance and false start on every down.
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Bills got way too cocky after the blocked punt. Need to stay serious, go up 17-0 and then pull the starters. Now it’s. 10-7 dog fight, every play risking a starters health
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Grounding on Ryan there
nobody within 10 yards
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44 minutes ago, Mango said:
Herbert is ahead of Allen in total yards as well.
So...to summarize, Allen is having a good year, but is not leading in TD or total yards to date.....Allen is #2 in both those Categories
Brady has 39TD, Allen has 38
Herbert 4,693 yards, Allen 4667, Brady 4661
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4 minutes ago, The Wiz said:
Regardless, they called DPI, so when the ball is tipped its negated.
No. The DPI occurred before the tip took place, so it’s still a penalty.
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19 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:
Eh, so 11 vs 17 vs 15
Bills are also dinking and dunking a bunch, penalty numbers don’t look as bad.
Up the Bills total to 16, or 1 per game in the ones that we lost by 1 score and the Bills could be 12-1.
It's that easy for the officiating to influence the outcome of a game.
(Pats also have 100 fewer pass attempts than us, but 4 more of these calls in their favor)
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I've seen lots of Bills players at the Tops at 5 corners in Orchard Park. I think most people who shop there are used to seeing Bills players and no one bothers them.
Maybe if it was Josh or Diggs/Beasley things would be different. But no one is gonna bother players like Star Louteleilei, Dion Dawkins, Ike Botteger or Jerry Hughes or former Bill Ray-Ray McCloud, etc. while they shop at Tops.
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5 hours ago, corta765 said:
Obviously losing Monday stunk for a bunch of reasons. For me while you do not want to lose my greater frustration was just the potential seeding tiebreaker, but I had another thought that bugged me more then anything else. I feel like for the second dang year we played in a game that will be considered one of the best on the season and came out on the losing side. Last year when we lost to Cardinals last second my frustration wasn't as much the loss because it happens and like Monday they lost but it doesn't ruin the season I am confident the team will be fine. But for the love of god can we come out on the better side of this equation haha. We play the Titans next year and like this offseason I am going to have to hear a years worth of how great the game wise, blah blah blah and it's deja vu all over. Hopefully we win the SB so we have the ultimate trump card, but it would be really freakin nice to play in one of the games of the year and not come out on the losing end and actually be able to enjoy watching it back.
Yeah, they're going to make commercials out of Henry's 76 yard TD run just like there are commercials of the Hail Murray.
Except they're going to have to edit out our guys getting held on the Henry TD.
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That’s 6 blockers vs 4 rushers in your example.
Notice anything different about the Allen fumble play?