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Doesn't do him much good to slide when defenders hit him all the time afterwards anyway, and don't get called for a penalty.
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On 1/29/2023 at 12:48 PM, CincyBillsFan said:
A better performance by the defense provides the offense with a few more possessions. That would have led directly to more points on the board. And again the defense played poorly at key points of the game making it harder to generate momentum and take advantage of playing at home. Specifically:
* The D allowed the Bengals to take a big early lead.
* Both times the Bills offense got them to within one score the defense promptly let Cincy go on two long, time consuming scoring drives. These were 2 key pivot points in the game that the defense allowed to slip away. By the time the O got the ball back half a quarter had been used up and the Bengals were back out in front by 2 scores.
Even if the Bills defense forced a few more possessions do you honestly think our O would have done anything with them?
As it stood the Bills had 8 possessions and the Bengals had 9. That's with Josh's late interception giving the bengals an extra one. 8-8 otherwise
Look at our possessions:
PUNT 3 PLAYS, 6 YARDS, 1:38
PUNT 3 PLAYS, 5 YARDS, 1:36
TOUCHDOWN 15 PLAYS, 75 YARDS, 7:41
PUNT 7 PLAYS, 39 YARDS, 1:09
FIELD GOAL 14 PLAYS, 65 YARDS, 7:18
PUNT 3 PLAYS, 8 YARDS, 1:15
DOWNS 10 PLAYS, 59 YARDS, 3:59
INTERCEPTION 8 PLAYS, 53 YARDS, 1:30
It doesn't matter how good your defense is if the offense does what ours did. You're not beating KC or CIN 10-9.
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Posters are on a spectrum.
Doomer: Wants to fire everyone, trade everyone away and start a rebuild, no matter the results. Always thinks the Bills will fail without sweeping changes.
Rational Middle: somewhere on the spectrum between Doomer and Billiever depending on the actual and expected results.
"Billiever": Thinks if they just have blind faith and "Billieve" hard enough that they'll be rewarded with eternal super bowls. Defends the Bills with religious zealotry and fervor. "Trust the process" is like heroin to them. Thinks that anyone who criticizes the Bills at all is a 100% full doomer.
Most of the prolific posters here either are, or are close to pure "Billievers", and they're upset that the rational middle is currently swaying towards doom after 3-5 years of optimism.
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2 hours ago, Beast said:
Let’s also be honest. If that was a Bills defender and it was called this place would go worse than nuts.I thought it was a ticky-tack penalty AT BEST and one you certainly don’t want a league championship game decided on. I felt it was an awful look for the NFL for that to happen.
It's an awful look that a $17.2 billion in revenue a year league lets obvious penalties like that slide 9 times out of 10 because of the "let 'em play" mindset, so the 1 time out of 10 they do call it, people get upset.
Right now it's expected that every O-lineman holds on every single play and it's only called a penalty if the ref thinks it crossed some nebulous and inconsistent threshold.
And the secondary holds/interferes with the receivers every single play, and it's only a penalty if the refs think it crossed some nebulous and inconsistent threshold.
Fans get upset because the refs thresholds are never consistent game to game, or even from one play to the next.
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23 hours ago, Bills!Win! said:
Add Hyde and Miller I think the game would’ve been closer.Closer, sure. But Hyde and Miller wouldn't have helped the offense score more than 10 points.
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17 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:
8 of their 22 starters today are rookies. We would have those guys scratched or sitting on the bench in favor of a vet role player. Unless forced to by injury of course and because they got no experience all season they wouldnt be ready for a game of this magnitude.
A big reason we don’t play rookies is that Beane does not draft good players. The veteran role players outperform almost all of beanes picks.
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5 hours ago, DCOrange said:
The two positions we’ve invested in the most the last few years is DL and RB and well…we may need to invest in DL some more.
I think we’re at the point where we need to acknowledge that McBeane are terrible at evaluating DL talent.
Star Lotulelei, Vernon Butler, Mario Addison, Quinton Jefferson, Ed Oliver, Harrison Phillips, Jordan Phillips, Tim Settle, Greg Rousseau, AJ Epenesa, Boogie Basham, Shaq Lawson, and DaQuan Jones.
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Does firing Fraizer actually accomplish anything? This is McDermott's defense isn't it?
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2 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:
I can think of three events in my lifetime of similar nature with huge number of eyes watching, however what happened tonight pales in comparison to these events in the grand scheme of things worldwide. Kennedy getting shot, Regan getting shot, and 9-11. Probably also the 72 Olympics at Munich though I don't recall much about that one.
In both cases TV kept broadcasting what happened, they don't go off the air. They try and give updates as best they can, that's their job.
Complicating things further is that tonight was being broadcast by sports journalists who aren't use to dealing with tragedies.
Large Scale: Challenger exploding.
Small Scale: Clint Malarchuck
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We're winning ugly which is an important thing playoff and super bowl winning teams have to do. And it's something we couldn't do last year.
But we're not really playing well at any facet right now. I'd feel a lot better if we were "rounding into playoff form" at least somewhere on the team. This is usually the time of year that the teams that are going to go deep in the playoffs start to really dominate one part of the game or another, be it the running game, defense, passing, whatever.
For example, this is the time of year the Patriots running game would usually start to take off on their way to yet another super bowl.
Same thing for the Giants 2 super bowl runs with Eli. This is the time of year they started getting hot. Their defense started playing lights out and Brandon Jacobs couldn't be stopped.
Last year it was the Bengals defense starting to dominate.
We don't appear to be on the upswing in any particular category, and are kind of struggling across the board. And we've lost 2 of our most important players on defense for the season. Tre White is shadow of himself so far, but is also our best shot at improvement heading into the playoffs.
Really hope we flip the switch against the Fish.
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4 minutes ago, Simon said:
It generally doesn't happen because a runner can protect himself whereas a guy catching a pass cannot.
If I've got the ball and you're looking to take my head off, I can prevent that by juking (a passcatcher can't), changing my pad level (a passcatcher can't), protecting my head with my shoulders (a passcatcher can't), etc.
It's about protecting the heads of guys when they're vulnerable and can't protect themselves.
It is more likely to happen during a catch than to a runner, I never argued otherwise. But that's not what I've been talking about.
I'm saying what about the hits where the runner wasn't able to protect himself? Is a hit to the head where the guy could have protected himself but didn't, any less dangerous or damaging than a hit to the head where the guy couldn't protect himself? The answer is no, it's the same.
Yes, you're right that it's less likely to happen, but it still happens all the time.
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19 minutes ago, Simon said:
Because the penalty is a hit on a defenseless receiver; that's how the rule is written and enforced
It doesn't matter if it's helmet to helmet. It can be forearm to helmet, shoulder to helmet, elbow to helmet, whatever.
So now imagine the same hit, but on a player established as a runner. Same body parts hitting in the same spots with the same force as in the Halmin ejection.
It's not even a penalty. But it's the exact same damage to the players in both cases.
If it was really about safety it would be a penalty in both cases.
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11 minutes ago, Simon said:
You can protect yourself as a ballcarrier; a receiver tracking the ball can't.
It's a penalty because they have to protect guys' heads, but throwing a kid out of a game for that is flat out wrong.You going to eject a guy in the middle of the AFC championship for playing clean but hard in his own endzone?
What does the offensive players ease of avoiding a hit like this have to do with it? I'm talking about the instances when a helmet to helmet hit has taken place. As in the times when a runner wasn't able to protect himself.
It's either a helmet to helmet collision or it's not. It doesn't matter if it's during a catch or while a player is a runner. The trauma to the brain is identical.
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14 minutes ago, NewEra said:
Nfl rules consider player safety a higher priority than making a good play. Hamlin made the perfect play. Too bad for him that his perfect play isn’t allowed in 2022.
he doesn’t deserve a fine imo
NFL doesn't give a rats ass about player safety, this is just about optics. This same hit is perfectly legal if the player has established themselves as a runner.
Are you telling me a helmet to helmet hit is dangerous when the player is catching the ball, but not while running? Come on with this nonsense.
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16 hours ago, ToGoGo said:
Anybody see the holding on Dawkins at the end? That better have been legitimate penalty. That ended our game.
The guy Dawkins was blocking got tripped by one of his fellow Jets line-men, causing him to lose his balance and twist over onto his back, Dion drove him into the ground and landed on top of him. If you didn't see the trip it looked like dawkins got beat, twisted the guy over and tackled him.
The Refs then let blatant holds by us go uncalled on all of the remaining plays. NFL officiating.... it is a mystery.
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The best part of this deal is that Moss is gone.
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Broke: The Bills played poorly in the second half
Woke: The Bills took the Packers to cover and only allowed them the smallest possible cover of 0.5 and they made it look easy.
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20 hours ago, SectionC3 said:
It’s been this way for so long that I know no different. There’s things that people do at games that I don’t like. Drinking, chief among them. It leads to all sorts of boorish behavior. But that’s what happens at Bills games. And, part of the experience for Bills fans is to stand to watch their team. They’re intense and into the game. So they stand. It’s how it goes.
Boorish behavior? Such as standing the entire game?
The standing is also a byproduct of the drinking. People are doing so much drinking that there is a constant stream of people heading to the bathrooms or to get the next round of drinks. It's easier to just stand the whole time than do the sit/stand/sit every 30 seconds to make way for the next drunk trying to get past you.
The seats are also cold and most people are underdressed for the elements (also a byproduct of drinking), so they never attempt to sit.
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5 hours ago, SectionC3 said:
They were at a Bills game.
It's a tradition from the drought years that I wish we would move on from. There's no reason to stand for an entire game.
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6 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said:
That wasn’t pass interference, it was them getting there at the same time and Poyer had position. All players look around for flags now with how flag happy they are.
Nah. Poyer was guilty. But they let a Raven get away with the same play earlier in the game that ended a Bills drive. So it was fair not to call Poyer either. The refs were consistent about this being a non-call for both teams, at least for this game.
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I'd agree that the Defense has been better than Josh so far this year. But Josh is more important for determining the outcome of games.
If Josh has a good game, we'll win 99.9999999999% of the time, aside from 13 seconds.
Josh can lose games for us even if the defense plays well. See Miami, Jax, Wind game, Pittsburgh etc.
Most of are losses are when Josh has an off day.
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I think it’s safe to say McBeane are terrible at evaluating RB talent. (And run blocking o-line)
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Popping in to say the announcer is full of ***** on the helmet to helmet hit Mackenzie took. Initiating with the crown is not a requirement to call a penalty there. And it doesn’t matter that he was an established runner.
also: why the hell did we waste a down giving Zach Moss a touch after the INT? We just blew our chance to comeback
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Not happy that the opposing secondary is immune to committing penalties. Just like last week.
Beane's drafting record...new data
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Don't forget Belichick squeezing 11 wins out of Matt Cassel in between a 16-0 season by Brady and a 10-6 season by Brady.