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If both Lee and Perry were available when the Bills pick in the 2nd round, I would have to go with Lee just as BPA. He's a 1st round talent. Like you said, he's the modern NFL OLB. But I don't think I would take him at 19. I feel like we need a more immediate starter in our defense. I actually think he could have used another year in college. He is very similar to Shazier, but more raw in technique. Shazier actually was even skinnier than Lee in college. He put on 15 between his junior season and the combine. Still fast and looks like he's been shot out of a cannon. I could see Lee turning into Shazier. Maybe I'm wrong and he will be a stud right out of the gate. IMO Lee is a faster, better version of Rookie Kiko. Without the off-field.
I think Josh Perry fits this D like a glove at LB. He is so smart and athletic and a leader. Can play inside or outside, cover, and even rush the passer. Jmo of course but he will be an under the radar great pick for some team.
Intersting thought on Preston to Eagles. I could see that. He just needs to be somewhere other than MLB. I don't think he's a bad player or that he can't play in this scheme. But Rex's MLB position is over his head. At this time.
I like the Kiko comparison, which actually sells me on him even more in the first. Even though I agree we need an immediate starter and agree Lee is still raw technically, especially wrapping up, keeping his feet under him and head up when tackling, his recognition and anticipation skills are certainly developing as well, but his long term potential for me makes him worth it at 19 with Jack and Smith off the board for me. I think he could use another year in school myself. When Shazier put on the weight and still blazed I was 100% on board, the opposite of Maybin which put me further in the other direction with "Mayhem" when he added weight and slowed down (sorry good folks of the OBX...). I dont think Lee will be studly out of the gate myself, but once he gets going and catches up with regards to the learning curve, I think he'll be a Shazier (lower ceiling) like player. My biggest concern with his is that I don't see him being able to add much good playing weight and keep his athleticism, which is concerning. Not sure why, but I think Thomas Davis a lot when I watch Lee.
I watched cut ups of the Penn St. (14'), and Minnesota (15') games with my buddy yesterday, and he left Mich St. (15') for my perusal. I was genuinely impressed and would agree with you sentiment 100% on Perry from what I saw. I love the idea of him in the 2nd if he's there, if he impresses at the Senior Bowl and combine he could push the end of the 1st round potentially. He would be a great pick for us in the 2nd, if he's there.
Brown is one of the more intriguing guys for me, he could get it and be a asset for this defense, but I think he like Mario is better off else where, and Philly makes a lot of sense to me, maaaaybe get a 4th back... Agreed that Rex's MLB is over his head at the current time, and I didnt see much progression during the season to make me think it will work out, but who knows?
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Sounds good to me.
I remember going to one in Orlando, Florida. Was eating and a Palmetto Bug ran into my syrup and got stuck, just like the mosquito trapped in amber clip in Jurassic Park.
Other than that, love me some WH
Thats too funny right there!
Sounds like my first time... In a way. Moved down to the 757, started dating the bartender across the street and after closing down the bar shortly after one night, I said where do people get food here late night? She said there's a
"Waffee Hause" down the street. I asked if it was any good, and she said "Azz good azz we gotz?" and I thought this should be interesting...
Long story short, we sit down and a family of 4 "palmetto bug's" immediately scurries out from under the table and up the wall, I look at her and she proceeds to unleash the evenings hooch all over the table right then and there. So I explain what happened to the waitress as I clean of my jacket and apologize for the mess on the table, the gentleman behind us says "Jenny, its been bout 2 years since ya'll sprayed, I think its time." Haven't been back since and didn't even get to try the food, but at least I have that memory to this day, from what was otherwise a less than memorable night. True story.
"Palmetto Bug", lol, only in the south could a cockroach be given such a adorable name.
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imo I would go Jack or Smith in the 1st at LB and that's it. I would go Josh Perry in the 2nd before I'd take Lee in the 1st. I love lee as a player. But I think he's a bit of a luxury in our scheme and ILB is a bigger need. Lee has never played inside and is most effective in coverage and as a blitzer due to his speed. Not a fundamentally sound tackler. In fact he's a HS QB who didn't start playing LB until two years ago. Perry is very underrated and versatile. I think he would be a great fit next to P brown. He's not a MLB though. He would replace Bradham. I'm not sure if Preston is going to get forced out of that role and need replaced or not.
Im in on Jack or Smith in the 1st and would be shocked and happier than a pig in $h!t if either ends up in Buffalo, im surprised you dont like Lee there (at 19)? I think they clearly need an ILB who can handle the scheme and its complexities (cerebral type), and there are those guys in the draft, but none are as athletic as Kuechly or Wills and IMO not worth taking in the 1st round unless that is the missing piece for a defense, which I dont believe the Bills are near that point yet.
I think Lee is similar to Jack and Smith in terms of what he brings to the table, athleticism, speed, and most importantly the ability to cover, which I think this unit needs worse than anything else. A 3 down LB (ILB/OLB, anything) who can cover should be priority #1 IMO. Lee is a little shorter and lighter than Jack and Smith, but has a similar skill set. The way teams are spreading defenses out and passing more I think this has to be the priority for this team, a do it all LB. I dont think Lee is as good as Jack or Smith, and not as good as Shazier (all 3 of whom I believe are/were top 10 worthy draft picks, even Shazier I had a top 10 grade on), but I do think he's a 1st round worthy player, especially in today's NFL, I dont see much later in the draft with the potential. IMO free agency or later in the draft is a better place to address ILB, as FA for coverage backers is limited at best and the draft after these 3 is a crap shoot. Personally I dont think he's a luxury, but I understand why others would.
I cant comment much on Perry other than my buddy who is a huge Buckeyes fan and avid draftnik, swears he's going to be a 10+ year pro, but I havent started looking at him yet myself. Between you and him, ill have to take a good look at Perry sooner rather than later.
As for Brown, with Schwartz going to Philly, I would not be surprised to see Brown moved there to be honest, Ryans is 31 and a 4.5 million dollar cap hit with 1 year left on his deal, and they are going back to the 43 defense, it looks like they need at worst a SAM for that scheme with their personnel, potentially a MIKE of the future as well. I dont see Brown fitting this defense unless he picks it up quickly this off-season, or they believe he can. I believe he's miscast completely in this system, but would continue to excel in Schwarz's.
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I see Woods as a quality utility WR. Much like a utility infielder who can play all of the infield spots in relief or in event of injury, Woods can play on the outside or inside (although probably not the X all that well). He's a hard worker, knows his assignments and can push young players. I like having him on the team. But I really don't want him relied upon to be a starting or top slot WR. The Bills need a big, fast X so Sammy can play the Y and then they need to add a quality Z. If Woods was the #4 in that scenario, then I'd be ecstatic. The problem will come on his next deal. He'll likely want to be paid more than the going rate for a 4th WR, especially considering his draft position (which does factor in), so I do not see him here long term. But the good news there is that when your WR corps start pushing players like Woods off the team, then they're pretty damn good. Of course they're a couple players short of that right now so you never know.
Interesting take on Woods being a utility WR... I think he's a solid #2 or Z receiver, more of a possession receiver at this point, but can handle many different responsibilities throughout the core, it would be interesting to see what he could do as a Y. His blocking and quickness are suited best there IMO, he certainly needs to work on his YAC, but I think he's under rated in general as people are putting too much into 2015 production without looking into relevant factors. IMO Woods is a quality Z.
You dont think Watkins is an X receiver?
I do think Woods next contract will be an issue, it'll be interesting to see how the Bills value him.
As for replacing him, thats going to be tough, this draft is nothing like that last two when it comes to WR talent, Treadwell is likely gone by 19 and do you take a WR in the 1st if your Buffalo? Coleman is likely faster than Woods, but not the blocker or route runner Woods is. Thomas isnt fast in general, or as quick in his breaks, but has the size and leaping ability Woods lacks, Doctson is similar to Thomas, after that IMO there isnt really anyone who is or has that much potential to be a better overall player than Woods, and even the guys I mentioned have as many if not more warts than Woods does. Buffalo has cap issue's, so FA is not much of a factor in a significant upgrade.
I would agree that the Bills are several receivers away from pushing Woods off this team.
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Kruger was severely overpaid by the Browns, but he's been a good player, for the right (much cheaper) contract I think he'd be a good addition. If not, meh... move on...
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The guy is one year from a 65 catch, 699 yard, 5 TD season, with EJ air mailing balls over his head for the first quarter of the season (29 targets 11 catches), including two TD's if my memory serves me, where he was wide open in the end zone. He was the 2nd 1/2 of a historically young record setting duo in 2014. He was open often in 2014 and not thrown too, its on the tape.
He plays through 2015 with a groin injury, which limits his movement skills and if you have had one you understand, and yet his production is parallel to his 2014 production despite missing 2 games with set injury, the offense throwing the ball over 100 fewer times than they did in 2014, he has 23 fewer targets in 2015, and they are a run first team now and he had to learn a new offense.
The guy plays and particularly blocks like his hair is on fire, which is perfect for the current offense, runs very good routes, consistently makes first downs (58% of his receptions), does not take plays off, and is still developing having finished his 3rd season. He's not a burner, he's not 6'4" (a lot of good that did James Hardy, just saying), he's not a #1 WR, but he is a very good overall player and complement to Watkins, and he is certainly not part of the problem, this team has much bigger needs than replacing Woods at this point.
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Might as well call Maybin and see what he's up to.
Artistically expressing his feeling of being a slave, while living off of money from his "servitude" smoking a J.
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I'm telling you guys that Skooby is the guy for this defense and we may be able to even grab him in the second. Good size, great instincts and athletic.
Not good in coverage, nor is he very fluid with CoD skills, but I do think he'll be there in the 2nd round, more likely in the 3rd. I'd rather have him in the 3rd than Ragland in the 1st.
Elite instincts and feel for the game, but I do not see him being a 3 down player.
Jaylon Smith (if he's gone, Darron Lee possibly) in the 1st and Scooby in the 3rd or better yet the 4th would be a win for Buffalo IMO.
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Yuck, workout warrior that can't play
The main issue with Mingo is that he's terrible at football.
A workout warrior who is terrible at football sounds like a fair assessment to me!
As a LSU fan who rarely misses watching a game, this was also true for Bark in college where his athleticism allowed him to beat mostly inferior opponents, not being a actual football player.
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IMO its the spread concept utilized in college that currently rules the NFL offensively, its gotta be close to 70% or more of the offensive formations I have seen in the playoffs were run out of spread formations, with QB's in the shotgun. Its been quickly progressing this way league wide over the last 5-10 years. Brady, Rodgers, Roethlisberger, Palmer, and top level QB's are running primarily spread passing attacks, that spread the defense out and let the QB pick the match up they like best.
This has clearly been helped along by the rule changes.
College "Spread Read/Option" and "Air Raid" style offenses wont work individually at the NFL level the QB's take to much of a beating or the defense has the athletes to stop it, but conceptually pieces of them have been and are being used today in the NFL. The Patriots* are masters offensively of using college style spread concepts and letting Brady pick defenses apart with his quick decision making and receivers route running ability (ie Edelman/Amendola/Welker via the Air Raid). They and most everyone in the NFL infuses these "college" based concepts with more traditional NFL pro style concepts.
Pure or true college offenses individually are not the future of the league, but they are certainly a part of the history, especially a big part of the recent history and current NFL.
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When was the last good ucla guy? I remember akeem ayers getting some hype coming out and I don't even know where he is now. Some schools just have guys that seem to flame out.
Eric Kendricks and Anthony Barr are tearing it up in Minny...
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For me that would be 8 days a week. Nkemdiche is an absolute physical freak. His upside is enormous, like multiple time defensive player of the year enormous. His floor is low because he is a knucklehead. Ragland looked slow to me against top talent and plays behind 3 guys that may be off the board by the time that we pick. He is solid and has a high floor but I think that his upside is limited. They always compare him to Mosley but he feels more like Preston Brown to me (that isn't meant as an insult) and we already have one of those.
Couldnt agree more about Nkemdiche and Ragland, I would also add Ragland is not good in coverage and comparing him to Mosley is laughable, they both went to Alabama and that is where the comparisons stop. JMO, the more I watch Ragland the more overrated he becomes in my eyes when looking at his stock right now, not as athletic as I hear and read, and his change of direction skills are not impressive, he's more Donta Hightower than C.J. Mosley as lazy Bama comps go. A good player but IMO in todays NFL downhill thumpers are 2nd round picks at best.
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They already have another DB coach. If Donnie is not back though it will be a bad mistake. The guy can flat out coach and the players love him.
Agreed, hard to believe they are letting him go and he is the coach leaving this staff.
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Ragland looked stuck in mud vs Clemson speed
Yeah, like a fish out of water, his skill set is in the box, between the hashes. He can handle the drop zone, but needs athletes around him to handle the perimeter and chasing duties.
I also did not see him doing much with alignments and handling the changes defensively himself.
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Not sure he can cover, but he can play inside and line up at DE as an edge rusher. I'd take any of J. Smith, Myles Jack or Ragland. All three are smart, athletic freaks.
I am even more convinced after last night he can't man up, as he did not and they put Foster in man coverage the majority of the game from what I saw, while Ragland dropped into zone and/or spied Watson while also bllitzing. In that system, Mosley would cover, seems they dont trust Ragland to do that, and I dont know how you take someone in the 1st who cant cover in today's NFL.
I could see Ragland falling in the draft like Landon Collins did last year due to pass defense issues, then Buffalo making a move up in the 2nd round and grabbing him after adding a more athletic upside guy in the 1st would make sense to me.
Smith or Jack IMO are 1st rounders for Buffalo if they are there and Ragland is a 2nd round value, although I highly doubt hes there at pick 49 in the 2nd round.
JMO: Jaylon Smith if he's there in the 1st (possible with the injury), then move up for Ragland in the 2nd if he falls, and the LB core would look very solid moving forward.
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I'm all in on Ragland. As a Tide fan, it's a pleasure to watch him work every week.
Do you think he can cover NFL TE's/RB's in man coverage?
Ill be very interested to see how well he does tonight when Clemson spreads them out and he (if he does) mans up on some of the more athletic guys Clemson has.
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So it does violate a current rule, and it should have been penalized 15 yards and the fumble not count as the result of a penalized play.
Some might like to speculate how the game might have differed if a penalty had been called there.
Its amazing Simms and Carey and Co. dont know the rules, Simms was spewing some crap about the tackle box, Carey was spewing crap about not being a defenseless receiver and the whole time myself and one other person im watching the game with go what does that have to do with spearing or leading with the crown or your helmet?
Anyway, who knows what might have been, but I thought that was an emotional turning point in the game.
Here is the NFL Rule Book for anyone interested:
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Plain and simple.
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But it should have been helmet to helmet so Cincy ball...
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Listening to Phil Simms make up excuses for the ref calls makes me sick.
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I think EJ has a $10 million option next year if he is on the roster March 1st. He is going to get cut.
Read this article from Spotrac. Either they aren't aware of this option or it doesn't exist.
Its a team (not player) option for the 5th year, which I would believe should be more than 10.6 Million (2016 option #, rounded) for 2017. Spotrac can not give an exact salary # for EJ in 2017 because the option is based on current QB contracts at the time the option is optioned, as it is an average of the 3rd - 25th highest contracts at the QB position at the time.
I found this article that I had read before and explains the process pretty well: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25140831/agents-take-a-guide-to-fifth-year-options-for-2012-first-round-picks
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He'd take Hughes spot. I don't know where you put jerry then...
Reggie Ragland is nice... Matakevich from temple 2nd or 3rd?
Hughes off the right and Miller off the left, similar to Ware/Miller in Denver or Hali/Houston in KC, seems to work for them
Ragland is limited athletically and in coverage from what I have seen, personally I would pass on him in the first, I like the idea of getting Tyler Matakevich in the 3rd more.
I dont think Ragland is nearly the all around player C.J. Mosley was, and IMO more of a 2nd round guy, the Bills need more of a Derron Lee/Myles Jack/Jaylon Smith 3 down type in the 1st round (medical evaluations pending). I dont think you take a thumper type in the 1st...
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I am more with Bandit and Badol on Incognito. I think the Bills are helped in getting him at a reasonable price by:
a) his age
b) his history (I reckon that over half the league probably doesn't even have his name on their FA board because of his past)
c) he seem the genuinely value the opportunity the Bills gave him.
d) the market value for 33 year old guards in the NFL. (Thought I would enhance your response...)
I saw somewhere on a link on TSW to one of the Bills fan/news sites that Incognito could get $8M per year?.............not on the open market he won't.
People aren't going to pay an OG in his 30's that kind of $.
Evan Mathis found that out last summer........he asked to be cut in hopes of making more money than his $5M and got a haircut instead.
I was thinking a $4-$5M deal over 3-4 seasons.......with likelihood being that he only plays 2-3 of those seasons.
Evan Mathis who was widely regarded as the best LG in the NFL in 2014 got 3.25 million on the open market in 2015 coming off an All-Pro Season at the age of 33. Great point on him getting less than he thought, #LostCash.
Cog is 33,coming off a Pro-Bowl caliber year and is not an All-Pro, how anyone could think he's getting 8 million a year is beyond me, the market for a guard at his age is not even 1/2 that. 4 million IMO is even high...
3 years 10 million with 4 guaranteed would be a win for Cog, anything more is a Levitre-Like deal for someone else and the Bills should let him walk, #BuyersRemorse.
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Anyone watch Tyler Metakevich play this year? I wonder how he'll transition to the NFL. Hes undersized, but a complete gamer. He called all of the plays and pretty much ran Temple's D for the past two years.
As for PB, something needs to be done. He looked lost for most of the season.
Ive just started and so far he reminds me of Chris Borland, not impressive athletically but ,intelligent, technically sound and instinctive, a heart and soul/max effort guy IMO for sure. IMO Chris Borland is what his transition upside could be.
As for PB, I think he's a pure 43 guy, but maybe the curve is steep with him in a 34, especially with his age and starting from scratch in a completely new defense as the point man. He certainly looked like a different guy this year and lost for sure.
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Nice!! Gotta add a shake for a Buck, best in SE Virgina. Steer clear of the chili... You've been warned!
Spicy fried Chix and mashed potatoes w/cajun gravy
, the only fast food place I'll eat either.