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1 hour ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:
I think we continue to talk and speculate endlessly about 13 seconds is because the truth about all the breakdowns has never been fully revealed.
If McDermott has indeed taken responsibility then why not reveal second by second all the mistakes that happened? Whether by coaching staff or the players ?
I'm not saying McD should call a press conference but if asked on a podcast what happened he should tell everything.
"Coach, well what exactly happened during 13 seconds ?"
McDermott: "I'm surprised we're still talking about this but let me take full responsibility. The buck stops with me. I'm going to answer every question..."
But McD hasn't done that. He's been incredibly secretive about it, perhaps more secretive than the government is about UFOs in Roswell New Mexico.
And by suppressing the truth, instead of burying the issue, it has had an opposite effect.
Years later we are still talking about it coming up with theory after theory. Fans are trying to fill in the gaps.
I started the OP hoping that more truth would come out and we could put this to rest.
But it had the opposite effect fueling even more speculation and much of that is McDermotts fault by not coming clean.
The Bills fans deserve to know the truth.
My fellow Bills fans alway remember
"The harder you try to suppress the truth, the more inevitable it is that it will find a way to come out.”
We'll never get an answer, but as a good coach he can fall on the sword and say it was me and I thought the best course was not allowing a Hill return and wanting to protect against a 30 yard reception on first down.
I wish I could have a chance to do it again as we would do things differently.
Is that so hard?
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Yes I remember those college days and being a loyal customer of Classic Luxury Rentals too and those $1,750 daily rental fees.😉 Rashee must have come from a very rich family.
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Yep beating a dead horse, but Poyer discussed it and it was a story.
Suffice to say that the Bills those 13 seconds basically did everything 100% wrong and what made it so sad is they called 2 timeouts and still couldn't figure anything out.
McD froze in the moment.
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30 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:
What if KC recovers the squib at the 25 and immediately downs it?
I think where the coaching failed was definitely allowing free release off the line for Kelce on the final play of the 4th. Kelce isn’t running by anyone there, they should’ve had Wallace in his face.
That's why I said a short kick to the 5-10 yard line that needs to be returned (minimum 3-4 seconds off the clock). A good sqibb kick works too. Isn't that what they practice all year for these situations?
BTW Christies squibb in 2000 was horrible too.😉
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13 minutes ago, Livinginthepast said:
McD's defenders on this thread are unreal. They act as if a strategy of squib kick and holding or jamming Kelce/Hill at the line was 3D chess. 13 seconds was a masterpiece of coaching incompetence with repeated cascading errors that each piggy backed on the other. The people here talking that a squib kick would not have resulted in any time off are delusional. Even on a properly fielded squib kick, 2-3 seconds comes off the clock. If the player fielding the KO fumbles the squib kick and then has to pick it up, thats possibly 5-6 seconds off the clock. Everything changes after that. With only 8-10 seconds on the clock you keep everything tight and in front of you, no sideline outs and the game is over in two plays. No FG try is possible. Im not sure why so many think this simple strategy was beyond our coaches to figure out.
There was no difficult coaching involved. The mental gymnastics amazes me. Very simple sqibb or what the Bills did well that year was high kick short of the goal line to the 5 forcing a return (fair catch was introduced in 2023). Second rush three and and don't let Kelce or Hill off the line. Two TO's means sidelines are not an issue. That's it, that's all.
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On 3/30/2024 at 9:52 AM, Buffalo_Stampede said:
They were defending the big play. Hill had them terrified.
The final 3 plays of the 4th quarter. 1st is Hills 64 yard TD play and the next 2 were 13 seconds.
You want to cry looking at the second & third pix. I for one was thrilled when Hill scored on the first pic with so much time.
Can I add, great coaching by Mc D there. Remember he called timeouts too prior to both plays and came up with nothing.
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15 hours ago, Billsatlastin2018 said:
‘13 Seconds’ is totally on McDermott.As I have posted before, the ONLY responsibility McD had was to impart what he wanted done on that ***** kickoff!
TO THE KICKER, FROM 3 INCHES AWAY, DURING THE TV TIME OUT, POST DAVIS TD!
The ONLY thing!
And why? Because TIME was the only critical factor and burning 4-5 seconds to allow for only 2 remaining plays was everything!
McD was lost in the moment of supposed victory.
It was a HO Fame Failure… one of the two worst ever in NFL history; the other being Pete Carroll not giving to the Beast!
I seldom come during the offseason, but the Poyer comments popped up on my phone so yep, like a glutton for punishment I had to read them. He was very diplomatic to say the least, but acknowledged KC was better prepared (and then they blew it the following week).
Anyhow 100% error after error and all falls on McD, who too used his timeouts and still didn't prpare for the palys. Squibb (was shouting at my TV, with friends over watching), followed by inexcusable defense from a coach claiming they were trained and prepared for every secenario .
After the TD you grab the kicker and and pickoff team and tell them squib/or kick high and to the left/right side and remain in your lanes.
Defense you then tell to not let Kelce Hill off the line (even if you need to hold them).....
McD failed miserably.
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59 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:
and tell me if we win that game do you clamor that Flutie should have started? Because when RJ finished things on the field and Christie made that FG we were ahead. Is RJ's fault we gave up the kick off return for the TD? Or does the win all that counts? because that's all I ever heard from Flutie fans is that he just wins, it doesn't matter how ugly. He was a glorified game manager and there's no way he would have outscored that Rams offense as their defense was one of the better in the league.
Again the only reason the Bills didn't dominate and win by 20, was Johnson being beyond bad the entire game. One of the worst playoff qb'ing performances I ever watched.
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On 3/4/2024 at 8:34 PM, The Jokeman said:
And Flutie was far from competent at the end of the 1999 season. Under Flutie we scored 19.6 yards a game which wouldn't be enough against the 22 the Titans scored in the playoffs game. Here are Flutie's last 4 games.
22/40 220 yards 1 TD 2 INT 1 FL 2 sacks
15/32 184 yards 1 TD 1 INT 1 FL 3 sacks
21/32 239 yards 2 TD 2 INT 0 FL 2 sacks
22/35 212 yards 0 TD 0 INT 0 FL 3 sacks
Oh and just a comparison Flutie's game vs the Colts in Week 1 vs RJs in Week 17. For those that feel the Colts weren't playing anything, they had a chance at the number 1 seed in the Conference had they won.
22/42 300 yards 1 TD 2 INT 1 FL 5 sacks
24/32 287 yards 2 TD 0 INT 0 FL 0 sacks
Really we're going to rehash this? Johson's performance vs. the Titans was putrid. Any coach would have had him pulled at halftime (or earlier) for the QB who started the entire year.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200001080oti.htm
Review the play by play. Bills were down 12-0 @ half, He had been sacked 4-5 times, fumbled and lost it and sacked for a safety.
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On 3/2/2024 at 11:50 AM, harv shitz said:
You can blast the decision to bench Flutie for Johnson all you want, but when Johnson played the week before against the Colts, it was the best the offense looked all season. The team won that year because of a great defense, and won in spite of Flutie, NOT because of him. Johnson led a great drive down the field to win the game, and converted a huge play with one shoe off! Lack of discipline on the kickoff, nobody stayed in their lanes, and getting boned on a no call on a clear forward lateral, cost the game. Benching Flutie had nothing to do with it.
Wow winning the last week in a game that meant nothing for either team and then 57 minutes of maybe the worst football ever in you're defending him?
Oh yeah and you really proved themselves after you signed the contract as well.
Any competent qb'ing that day and the bills would have won by 20.
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7 hours ago, pennstate10 said:
Not quite sure of your math.
How do you reason 11 coaches higher than McD.
I see 3 coaches graded higher than McD.
Yes I read somewhere he ranked 12th and corrected it that hebwas in a cluster with 9 coaches. 19 got A- to A+ grades, so seems nost coaches are liked. Belichek and some others being the exception.
Regardless I read little into it.
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I think Ralph Wilson was listening to Chuck and 100% am convinced he made the call to start Rob Johnson in the playoffs (one of the worst ever QB performances I ever saw) over Doug Flutie as he had spent the year denegrading and calling Flutie a midget and having the fanbase in an uproar.
Listened to way too much of him. RIP
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So 11 coaches ranked higher then McD??? McD was in the second wave (3 got A+, 9 A and 7 more A-).
And Pegula's A- is 8th.
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8 minutes ago, NoSaint said:
even if you trust him, if it’s less than 2-3 yards the right choice for expected points scored is to go for itI said later I am okay they went for it, just that they haven't had him kick at all.
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1 hour ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:
Defense was doing great the entire game and completely shut the Fins out in the 2nd half. Why risk giving them great field position attempting a 53 yard FG?
Because 31 others kick a 52 (not talking about going fot it on 4th down) yard fg in perfect conditions.
11 games without a 50 yard fg is a long time.
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Just now, Bob Jones said:
Forecast temp at 13-17, winds at 10-15mph, 50% chance of snow on Monday night. Really not that much better.
Isn't it MLK Day? Play it at 1:00pm.
Regardless has put a damper on the game.
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Just now, oldmanfan said:
Just play the game. Unless teams and fans can’t get to the stadium play the game.
Disagree. As said with conditions so bad, it is no longer a football game, but a coin flip in my opinion and the fact the Bills are the better team negated by conditions.
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I think they should pull the plug and move it to Monday right now.
I remember the 2021 NE game thinking conditions have to improve as the forecast was bang on the entire week leading up to the game..... Never did.
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13 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:
55 yards is no gimme. You're making an assumption about just how often it's attempted and under which circumstances. At that point in the game, you weigh your effectiveness on 4th and short to end the game versus possibly giving the ball back with 8 extra yards of field position in a one-score game.
It was early and was 7-0. 52 is not long.
2023 kickers were 153/222 or 68.9%
Since the Philly game the Bills seem hesitant to use him and trust his leg.
Geez wasn't he supposed to be able to hit 60+ when drafted?
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3 minutes ago, teef said:
You thought very hard about this topic…didn’t you?
Hours and hours of thought.....😜
Yep a throwaway, but thought there were opportunities to try, where they did not.
Moderator merge or delete if needed.
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Know it has been discussed before & with weather conditions Sunday who knows how it will affect kicking decisions, but a real issue.
He hasn't attempted a long fg forever. Yes there were two bad misses vs. Philly, yet only attempted 6 since then and made them all, however not one over 40.
Surprisingly even I would have been okay with him kicking a 52 yarder vs. Miami on the 4th & 2 Int.
There have been other opportunities since Philly and the Bills chose to punt.
Todays kicker are expected to kick 55 yarders routinely.
BTW he is 4 of 6 over 50 this year.
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9 hours ago, Doc said:
It's probably a good thing Davis tripped otherwise he might have fought for the ball and made it an incompletion.
Davis fight for the ball???? That's a good one!!!!🤣😜
P.S. He did vs. Pitt for a TD in 2022, which is the only time he has ever won a battle to catch a ball as far as I know. How many times with some awareness he could too have drawn PI by coming back to the ball when coverage wasn't looking also perplexes me.
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18 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:
What about this years game against NE they lost ? What did that prove ?Any Given Sunday..... This has been discussed. Really?????
Diggs traded to Texans for picks
in The Stadium Wall
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Can hardly wait 'til McD starts touting the running game and complimentary football and further sabotages Allen. I'm happy to move on from Diggs, but not a high powered passing offense.