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Of course it's "pure conjecture". I never said it was a fact. It was obviously a strong opinion...I picture you trolling these message boards just looking for an argument. ANNNND there's no chance Gruden coaches the Bills. You'll learn to live with that. As you were

Lol damn, didn't realize this was such a sensitive subject for you. All I was saying is that Gruden is unlikely, that is all. Didn't mean to ruin your day.

Oh please...call it an educated guess. Obviously I haven't tapped his phones. I'm just saying I wouldn't count on it, guy...Its not worth bringing up in a conversation.

Gruden isn't coming back. I have confidence that Marrone can improve and become a solid HC, but who knows. I don't think its time to over react yet. I just hope Schwartz stays.

Ever??? Come on, that's a little extreme. He's not going to let 1 game or 1 play prevent him from doing anything in the future. I think he is cool under pressure, I really do. Just look at the video of him on the sideline before the last game winning drive against Panther's last season...Marrone wanted to make sure he wasn't freaking out and EJ had to tell Marrone not to worry, he was good.

It's a combination of both...I was also thinking that play should never have been called but I didn't want this post to be too wordy. Watt plays every position on the DL and you have to always be mindful of where he is. When I said "The play calling was bland" I was referring to this play as well as the 100 other screen plays we ran that day. Sometimes its hard for me to tell if EJ is just not confident enough to not check down all the time or if the play calls for him to dump it to the RB that often. We were doing that all day. Watt was waiting for it.

Agree. I didn't realize how bad it was at the time because I promptly made my way to a room with no TV in it. I realized last night that the reason it was an easy call is because the DB didn't even look at the ball...smh.

I think Robert Woods has dropped more than 1 first down balls right on his numbers.

Spirals or not he puts most deep balls on the money (It must've been week 2 where he put a tight ball right in Sammy's mitts deep but Sammy failed to bring it in on the goal line). What he needs to work on is hitting his targets on cross routes, leading the receivers. He also throws the ball too low sometimes if I'm remembering correctly.

I understand what you're getting at but I think that is just something we have to live with for now. I believe EJ's career could be ruined if we force it too quickly. If they are patient with him, he could be successful. It's too early to tell. I'm certain he is learning a ton from Orton during practices and on the sidelines. I'm a patient EJ fan, he does and says all the right things (as someone noted). I also think he is smart. He needs to get more competitive...get angry and gain more points in the leadership category. Remember, this kid knows there is a lot of money on the line (He hangs with Kaepernick in the offseason). I think hes up for the task.

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I agree, that was PI on Robert Woods. I think EJ is very capable of running the 2 minute drill. With that being said, I also think it was a blessing in disguise. EJ needs to learn from the bench like other great QBs have in the past.

So, I re-watched the Bills Texans game last night because I wanted to re-evaluate my opinions of EJ Manuel earlier this season. A couple things I noticed watching that game without the overwhelming emotions that come with watching the games live are: The OL played AWFUL and it showed. We could not establish a running game. EJ was under pressure all game and I really think the play calling was bland. EJ's pick 6 to JJ Watt is more credit to Watt being a freak than anything. Andrew Luck did the same EXACT thing the week after, however, Watt bobbled it a little too much to get a clean pick to run with it. When CJ Spiller uses his first instinct to cut up field it usually works well/ok for us. Too many times we see him trying to bounce it out just oooone more time for that BIG play and it results in a loss of yards. That is lack of discipline. Fitzy played one of his better games against us. He used that magic we all know he is capable of using once in a while. Our defense dominated except for Corey Graham who gave up a late first half TD (the only TD our defense allowed) to Hopkins to make it 10-7 going into halftime. It looked like Graham fell asleep on that play. I guess what I am trying to conclude here is that I think it's surprising how many people have already chalked EJ up as a bust. I see a lot of potential. His biggest problem right now is accuracy/timing. I'm no QB coach but I have to think that is something that can be improved over time (correct me if I'm wrong). I don't feel any desire to throw EJ back into this mess anytime soon. I think Marrone has made the right decision and EJ will benefit from taking a back seat. It is VERY difficult to find a franchise QB in this league, just look at 80% of the teams in the NFL. I billieve that we just might have something in EJ. We need a BIG upgrade @ OL (free agency or draft or both?) We need a desperate upgrade @ OC... We could use a stud CB... I'm ok with Marrone and Whaley sticking around. Not a fan of the revolving door. Can't wait for Kiko to be playing again. Also, if you haven't noticed. EJ loves Buffalo. As Always, Go Bills.

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I'm curious what options people think we will have for QB/RB prospects in the draft. And maybe some insight into who we should hope to get our hands on. I have my eyes on: James Conner - Pitt Ameer Abdullah - Nebraska Connor Cook - MSU? (2016)