Perry Turtle
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Total malpractice when it comes to the management of the most important position the field.
A competent front office would have cut ties with Peterman after the Chargers game last season. The Bills front office named him this season's starter.
After the Ravens game, a veteran QB should have been signed.
I don't know if they should be fired, but this loss is on them. It was an unacceptable risk keeping Peterman on the roster.
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1 hour ago, May Day 10 said:
This is accurate. While there is still a little room to grow in the US market... International is largely untapped money that would/could take the league to the next level
That's assuming that the NFL is more than a niche sport in the UK market or that there is a 1:1 ratio between ad rates in a counties like the US and Mexico.
An NFL team in London would directly compete with the EPL every Sunday for ratings. The EPL would destroy the NFL, relagating the NFL to the ratings equivalent of Sunday afternoon bowling on ESPN.
Jacksonville, for all the flack it takes, is one of the larger US markets. The US networks and advertisers would not be happy losing it, especially now that the team is a playoff contender.
US networks would lose ratings, which set the rates for advertising. This would negatively impact league revenues, off-setting the gain from foreign market revenues.
The EPL has been growing its following in the US over the last few years. It's probably done a better job of penetrating the US market than the NFL has done penetrating the UK market. However, even with that success, I don't see a team like Everton deciding to play half their games in Yankee stadium (where it would be lucky to pull MSL-like ratings). The league's domestic revenues far outpace any potential US revenues.
This is about a rich guy who wants to do all his business in London. Any business or competitive reason given for a move like this requires a massive leap of faith. The reality is that the team won't be competitive because it won't be able to attract talent, and it will cause the league to take a massive hit in revenues.
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5 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:
Ties aren't the end of the world for regular season games but the shortening of the OT quarter to 10 minutes is basically making it much more likely for teams to tie and 5 minutes of additional game time isn't exactly going to massively do anything. Right now 10 minutes allows teams to exchange field goals and leave about 2 minutes on the clock. If the team that kicked the first field goal can't score then the game ends in a tie, but if you added the extra 5 minutes you would allow at least 1-2 more possessions and lower the likelihood of a tie.
I don't think you have to get rid of ties but the solution should be to make them more rare.
College overtime is way to gimmicky and doesn't feel like a natural extension of the game as it is played in regulation. It's much more similar to hockey's shootouts which are gimmicky and un-reflective of the game (but at least are confined to the regular season.)
The NFL has a good system they just need to allow teams to play a full 15 minutes. The big issue with 10 minutes is that if two teams kick a field goal those drives usually eat up about 4 minutes each and that only leaves about 1 possession left. Going back to the 15 minute format would allow each team with at least 1 additional possession with plenty of time on the clock. If teams can't score in that time frame then fine end it in a tie but at least you have a format that limits ties and isn't gimmicky.
I agree with you. I'd prefer that the NFL goes to 15 minute OT (at least).
If they decide to go to stay with the 10 minute OT, though, I'd rather they go to the college format, because I agree with your assessment of the 10 minute OT.
As much as I want the 15 minute OT, I don't think the NFL is going to go back to it because of the night games, especially Thursday night games.
So instead of watching a team win the coin toss and try to grind out a 7 minute FG drive in OT, I'd rather watch teams try to outscore one another in innings that start on the, say, opponent's 40 yard line.
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If they're going to keep OT at 10 minutes, just go to college rules. 10 minutes basically gives the two teams one drive, which still has a high chance of ending in a tie.
College rules wouldn't increase the time spent on the field by much, which promotes player safety, but would offer more red zone plays and produce a winner.
And ties are fine until teams with a 7-7-2 record start making the playoffs.
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They could start by having Daboll figure out how to run the ball. McCoy had 5 runs today and averaged 4.8 yards. You can develop a pretty good base for an offense if you ran the ball 25 times and averaged 4.8 yards a carry. It would help the offensive line and let Allen play-action more effectively.
They could stop running Allen. For as bad as the Bills offense is, it gets immediately worse if Allen gets hurt and Peterman gets the starter's job.
They could be more aggressive on defense. The defense is much better when it creates pressure than when it sits back in zones.
They could start stopping teams in the red zone. They're allowing TDs on 90% of red zone tries right now. McDermott has to figure this out. The defensive personnel is probably better than it was last season. Again, being more aggressive could help here, but it seems that more can be done with the personnel packages.
In terms of adding talent, it seems as if any signing at QB, even on a short term deal is a better option at backup QB than Peterman. McDermott has to face reality so that the front office can make the move, because, the way he is currently running the team now, it's only a matter of time when Allen gets hurt.
So, just based on observations, the defense is better when it blitzes, the offense hasn't run nearly enough, and Allen's health situation is a ticking time bomb. Better schemes and a one year deal for a QB like Lynch could help this season.
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Any throwback created before 1965 should be banned.
Any uniform created AFTER 2015 should be banned.
The Arizona Cardinals current costumes should also be banned.
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I don't know, could the Bills have drafted Mahomes and then traded back into the first for White? Or, would White have fallen into the second, which would have made it easier to trade up for him? Would you trade a '17 2nd and 3rd to get White (giving up Zay Jones)?
And would the other '17 trades stay the same? Would the Bills been able to draft more help in the'18 draft at WR, or CB, or OL using the picks acquired in those trades to build the roster around Mahomes?
It's difficult to decide, because Allen has always looked like a top level prospect, he is a franchise QB. Getting him help is now the number one objective, and giving up the picks in the past draft could slow that process.
The cool thing that is happening though, is despite the path the front office has taken to build the roster, it looks like the staff can coach up talent. The team doesn't have to hit rock bottom to get better. That mentality over the first couple of weeks of the season, claiming it was part of the process, was just unacceptable. I mean bottoming out AFTER you draft your franchise QB, who does that?
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It looks like they changed the gap assignments and the coverages the last six quarters. The defensive line was shooting the gaps instead of occupying the gap, using run blitzes (more so in the Chargers game, since the Vikings didn't try to run), and they're playing more man and man zone.
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Frazier is a good coach. For some reason, he and McDermott weren't on the same page for the first six quarters of the season.
Good to see them get back in synch, because that defense is fun to watch.
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The Viking dropped a safety into the box the first half, and then moved both safeties back in the 2nd.
That was awesome to see. The Bill's were on cruise control, but Allen looks to have tha ability to make teams move guys out of the box. This will benefit Shady, who's faced 8 man boxes his entire Bills career.
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Would have liked to see Allen get all the 1st team reps during camp and preseason.
He seems to learn quickly, if he was able to get the feel for the NFL game out of the gate in the first preseason game against the first teamers, the team probably would have put up a better fight the first two games.
And kudos to McDermott for putting the teeth back into the defense.
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1 minute ago, row_33 said:
watching the Jags pull out of total mire and misery in no time flat, while the Bills are still there, makes it worse for me
It took the Jags years to pull out of the mire and misery.
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8 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said:
I'd keep Woods, Goodwin, and drop Clay if that's what it actually came down to. Clay is crazy overpaid.
McCoy is too. He's one of my favorite players on the team, but $9M for a 30 year old RB on a team that is taking a step back makes me question not the team's plan, but it's execution of the plan.
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33 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
But he also picked up an extra 1st round pick. He didn't just give up assets. You can think of it as we traded 2 2nd round picks to get Tremaine Edmunds and still got our franchise QB and a #1 CB. The only thing that matters is Allen. If he turns out good Beane will be here a long time, if not he'll be gone in 2 years.
They also traded a third (Cleveland's) to move up to draft Edmunds. So to move up in the first to draft Allen and Edmunds, it cost them both seconds and and the first pick in the third.
If they drafted their QB in '17 at #10, with every other trade being the same (Watkins, Darby, Taylor), they would have have ended up with 1 first round pick, 2 second round picks and 2 third round picks in '18.
If they still traded up to get Edmunds, it still costs them the first pick in the 3rd round, but they still have the 2 second round picks.
Not saying that either Allen or Edmunds aren't worth it, what I am pointing out is that the Bills paid a heavy price for them.
There are a lot of holes in the current roster that those traded picks could have filled.
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Just now, joesixpack said:
Don't be obtuse. COMBINED they have less than a full seasons' worth of starts.
How about waiting 3-4 seasons, eh?
Or nah. You know it already. ALL STAR
REALLY?!?!?! So the guy Beane spent a bunch of draft picks on a QB who isn't guaranteed to be an All Pro?
Of course the draft is speculative, the point is the Bills passed on prospects who fell to them who had a much better resume than the guy they ended up spending more heavily on.
The front office has given the reasons of value for why they have dumped guys like Watkins and Dareus. That's part of the process, and that's cool.
But that concept of value should be consistent, and GMs who let the draft fall to them instead of chasing picks falls more in line under that concept of the Process.
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19 minutes ago, joesixpack said:
Since you're reading the chicken bones, how about shooting the powerball numbers my way? Kthx.
Right, 'cause it was so hard to project these two guys as potential franchise QBs.
It's the equivalent to the guessing lottery numbers to project a guy who tore up Alabama in consecutive championship games to be a legit NFL QB. ?
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4 minutes ago, joesixpack said:
And let me guess, you think Mahomes would look like he is now here. Right?
Playing for a coach like McDermott, no. And Allen would look a hell of a lot better playing under Reid.
The point is that the Bills needed a franchise QB and Mahomes or Watson checked that box. Both of these guys fell to the Bills in the '17 draft. McDermott, for some reason, decided to delay selecting a QB, and it cost the team several more assets to draft Allen, which could have been used to speed the rebuild.
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17 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said:
The goal last year was to bottom out, since that didn't happen it's going to be a long year but our rookie QB is getting hands on training probably a season earlier than the team wanted and so far there has been ups and downs but I like what I'm seeing so far. I expect a top 10 pick and it will help us in the long run, OT/WR should be the top targets when the pick is up.
The only reason to bottom-out is to draft a QB. Other than that, the offensive and defensive lines can be filled out in the middle picks of a round.
McDermott could have had his franchise QB by drafting Mahomes or Watson at 10. He probably could have even traded back into the first round to grab white.
Everything else could have stayed the same and the Bills could have filled out the roster this draft with one less first rounder (which would have been fine, as they already had their QB) and two more 2nd rounders.
There was no need to bottom-out, the draft fell to the Bills last year, and instead of drafting an NFL-quality QB prospect, they passed it up and mad three extra deals, which cost them additional assets to draft Allen.
That's the problem with Beane and McDermott; they over-complicated everything. They want you to believe that they're playing chess while everyone else is playing checkers.
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The Vikings should have a new kicker for this game.
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This looks like a guy I would start over Jameis Winston.
Tampa has a legitimate QB controversy.
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11 minutes ago, The Senator said:
Sounds like the Pegulas are waiting for Cuomo to be re/elected and give Buffalo another $billion$
Yep. They're probably on the same page as him, so there's no reason to make public funding of the stadium a state-wide issue in the election.
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4 hours ago, matter2003 said:
You missed the entire point. I'm saying his talent does not outweigh the headaches. That wont work. Never has.
The original point of the thread is that there is no way Kapernick is worse than Peterman, who has started NFL games, which means there are other reasons he has been offered an opportunity to join a roster.
Him being a distraction isn't an excuse because there are multiple players, good and bad, who have caused distractions.
It's obvious that he's being black listed. He might not be among the best 32 QBs in the league, but after watching Peterman try to play QB, you can't argue that he's not among the best 64 QBs in the league.
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37 minutes ago, matter2003 said:
Kapernick doesn't have a case. He is out of the NFL because no team wants a backup caliber player that causes that much of a distraction and that many headaches for their teammates who will have to deal with a media circus and answer questions regarding Kaepernick all year long every media session. The problem he has is that if he wants to cause elite level problems for an NFL team, he has to have elite level talent that forces them to have to put up with it. He doesn't have that. Plain and simple. If this was Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Drew Brees or Cam Newton teams would grudgingly put up with it because talent trumps everything in the NFL.
Kapernick isn't the first NFL player who caused a distraction, there's list a mile long of players (and Owners) who caused distractions, who were welcomed back into the locker room.
NFL teams have dealt with distractions for decades. Many outstanding teams thrived despite those distractions. So claiming that Kapernick is untouchable because he might cause a distraction is just not believable.
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The GM and Coach have been given time to build this franchise, but I think these two guy have taken that to an unfair extreme.
Everything with them is next year. Last draft they passed on Mahommes and Watson because they were going to get their franchise QB next year.
They traded two players who were top five picks (Watkins and Dareus), believing they were going to replace them next year.
Even when they spent a fortune of draft picks on their franchise QB, the expectation is that he'll start next year.
Meanwhile they fill the roster with the Panther's trash, and the team seems to buy into this lack of urgency. Why play hard for this front office if you know you are not part of the plan.
Anyway, having a long term strategy is good, but you have to show a minimum of competency while setting the plan in motion.
So far, there's it looks like there has been a whole lot of incompetence by the front office leading into this season.
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Is Nate Peteman the worst QB in NFL history?
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Yes, and that question was easily answered after the Chargers game last season.
Ar this point, what does McDermott think is going to happen when he sends Peterman on the field? How delusional is he about the most important position on the roster?