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    NFC Slug-Fest: Hawks @ 9ers

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    I’m not sure an offense can do much in today’s nfl without a legit third wr option. Brown and Beasley Are fine and could probably be great if they were pushed to number 2 and number 3. Or smoke  still our number one with a number two that demands attention. No one past smoke and Beasley really demands that respect..even Beasley has limitations..I thought maybe kroft could bring something (what are we paying so much for exactly?)
     

    NFC Slug-Fest: Hawks @ 9ers

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    20 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

    Two observations of tonight's game as it relates to the Bills:

     

    1)  QB's fumble.  It happens.  The more a QB is sacked or runs with the football the more they fumble.  Why some folks on this board obsess over Allen's fumbles while ignoring all the other fumbles is beyond me.  From the Giants rookie QB who has had 2 of his fumbles returned for TD's to Carolina's Kyle Allen who has lost 5 fumbles to Jimmy G tonight who just fumbled the 49's momentum away.

     

    2)  I think we have a good defense but I also think they do some things very poorly.  One is getting the opposing O off the field and the other is that they don't force TO's.  But all I've read today from the Western NY sports media is how bad the Bills O is and it's "unfair" to expect the D to carry us.  And I respond why the hell can't we expect the D to carry us?  That's the Bills strength.  Tonight the Seahawk's D forces a TO and makes it a game.  When you have a struggling O the best way a D can help is force a lot of 3 & outs and TO's.  Our D doesn't do either.  How many defensive TD's have been scored this year?  And we have only ONE forced TO in the opponents red zone.  I bet that's worst in the league. 

     

     

    I agree. This is why everyone was talking up the pats d as elite this year before they ran into Baltimore. I think they are holding teams to an avg of 11 pts per game and have 27 turnovers, multiple returned for tds.  

    We just don’t force enough game changing plays.

     

    We play solid bend but don’t break pressure based d, but if our blitzes and line don’t get to the qb we are exposed everywhere where white isn’t...and screen plays. 

     


     


     

     

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    ROCKPILE REIVEW - The Bills Don't Have Quite Enough

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    56 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

    The Rockpile Review – by Shaw66

     

    “The Bills Don’t Have Quite Enough”

     

    The Browns beat the Bills Sunday, 19-16, in a game that proved what a lot of people thought:  The Browns were better than their 2-6 record suggested, and the Bills were worse than their 6-2 record suggested.  The odds makers were giving the Bills 3 points or, in other words, giving the Browns the home-field advantage in a game that looked even.

     

    And even it was.  The Browns made just enough plays to win, just a few more plays than the Bills made.  The Browns won the statistical battle by a little here and a little there.  The Browns were just a little better.

     

    The game reinforced the recurring themes about the Bills in 2019.  They don’t run the ball well enough, they don’t stop the run well enough, they don’t pass the ball well enough.  And, on Sunday, they didn’t kick the ball well enough, either. 

     

    This was a game decided by the skill positions.  The simple fact is that the Browns are better at all the big offensive skill positions – their two wideouts are better, their two running backs are better and at least on Sunday, their quarterback was better. 

     

    The wideouts were the most important difference.  Beckham demanded Tre White’s attention all day long, and he was a handful for White.  White gave him a big cushion most of the game, which allowed Beckham some first down catches that hurt, but in general, White contained OBJ. 

     

    That left Levi Wallace one on one with Jarvis Landry.  Wallace survived, I suppose, but just missed defending the two biggest passes of the day.  On Cleveland’s opening drive, Landry got behind Wallace and caught a perfectly thrown 17-yard TD pass.  Wallace found the ball a split second too late, and his attempt to deflect the ball just missed.

     

    Then late in the fourth quarter, with the Browns attempting to put together a drive to win the game, Wallace just missed deflecting the ball again, this time on a 24-yard completion off a long crossing route.  Wallace was beat early as Landry sliced through the defensive backfield, but Wallace closed late and had a play on the ball.  He just couldn’t make it. 

     

    A couple of plays later, Wallace was beaten for the winning touchdown.  The Bills were in an all-out blitz and Wallace had to overplay the quick out route.  When Higgins cut upfield and curled toward the center of the endzone, Wallace couldn’t recover.  Mayfield did a nice job buying time for Higgins to make the cuts and then delivered the ball for an easy catch. 

     

    It would be easy to blame Wallace, but the fact is that Landry has been a superior receiver for a long time, and Wallace often had no help.  He just lost a couple of battles against a really good player. 

     

    Brown and Beasley are nice receivers, but they can’t challenge defensive backs on every play like Beckham and Landry.  Trade Beckham for Brown or Beasley for Landry and the outcome of the game is different.  Brown ran some lovely routes, and Allen found him often enough, but Brown needs to be open to make his catches.  He rarely comes up with the ball when he’s tightly covered.  Beasley was solid again on Sunday, but he isn’t a receiver to really test a defense. 

     

    Same story in the running game.  The Bills’ defensive front seven were outblocked sometimes but did well enough to keep from being run over.  The Bills’ offensive line didn’t block for the run as well as the Browns’, but they did well enough to give Singletary and Gore opportunities.  The difference was Nick Chubb and Kareem Hunt, two of the most talented running backs in the league.  Chubb combines quickness and power in a way that lets him hit and get through holes and break tackles for additional yards.   He’s one of those guys who just doesn’t go down.  And Hunt constantly threatened to break away.  The Bills checked him adequately, but he still collected a lot of yards running and receiving. 

     

    Josh Allen posted a typical losing QB stat line.  He threw a lot – 41 times – and connected just enough – 22 times – to get decent yardage – 266.  If the running game had been more productive, he would have thrown less often and completed a higher percentage.  If he were a premier QB, he would have thrown 41 times and completed a higher percentage.  Either way, the Bills likely would have won the game.  But Allen isn’t yet the guy who is so good, so knowledgeable, that he can put the team on his back and win when the rest of the offense is overmatched.  He might become that guy, but he isn’t that guy yet.

     

    Allen didn’t throw badly.  He had some balls that weren’t as accurate as they should have been, but everyone has a few of those.  His problem was that he didn’t have, or couldn’t find, open receivers.  A premier QB would have been changing plays at the line of scrimmage, coming off primary receivers to complete more passes and keep the chains moving, and making passes with pinpoint accuracy, like the throw he could have made to McKenzie in the end zone at the end of the first half. 

     

    Allen wasn’t quite good enough, and Baker was just a little better.

     

    A couple of weeks ago, the Bills replaced Duke Williams in the active roster and began to play combinations of speed receivers – McKenzie, Foster and Roberts.  That experiment seems to be failing.  None of those guys is making an impact in the receiving game.  Williams would give Allen something that none of the other receivers offers – a big target with demonstrated ability to make contested receptions.  Williams would be a guy that Allen could go to when his principal options aren’t there. 

     

    A good example was Allen’s throw to Brown on 4th and 4 at the end of the third quarter.  Brown made the in cut with the defender right on his back.  Allen threw the ball well, although it could have been lower.  The defender reached around Brown and broke up the play.  Williams has a much higher probability of making that catch – Brown just isn’t the physical player Allen needs in that situation. 

     

    There always are a lot of reasons to be unhappy when the Bills lose, but this loss was particularly painful because the loss wasted essentially three classic goal-line stands.  The Browns ran eleven plays from inside the three-yard line, most from the one yard-line, on two possessions and came away with a field goal.  In the end, the Browns were about to go for it on fourth and short, but a false start penalty pushed them back five yards and they settled for the field goal.  A Browns fan sitting next to me said that the center intentionally took the false start to force Kitchens to take the field goal.  The players knew the Bills simply weren’t going to let the Browns see the end zone.

     

    The goal line stands were magnificent, old-school football.  Beautiful.

     

    And Edmunds sack of Mayfield for a safety highlighted again how the defense always seems to have a different look, a new wrinkle.  Edmunds rarely blitzes, and he practically never blitzes when he lines up tight to the line of scrimmage.  Mayfield ignored Edmunds at the left end of the line.  No one expected he was coming. 

     

    But the safety, too, was wasted in a game where the Bills were close but not good enough.  The Bills defense gave up big TD drives to open and close the game and was solid enough the rest of the time.  The Bills offense didn’t produce enough running or enough passing.  Sixteen points isn’t enough.  Simple as that. 

     

    Oh, and then there’s Hauschka.  I don’t like looking for scapegoats, because football teams win and lose together, but it’s a different game if Hauschka makes one of his kicks.  He didn’t, and no one picked him up. 

     

    I got to watch the game from a suite on the fifty.  A big thank you to my host Mike, who was more than happy to have this Bills fan and my buddy join him for the game.  Pizza, burgers, dogs, wings inside, with TV and radio play-by-play, seats on the fifty outside with TV and radiant heat above.  Tough duty. 

     

    First half I was inside and didn’t hear the crowd.  Second half I was outside.  The Browns fans weren’t as loud as I expected they’d be, until the Bills final drive, when they really rose up.  And the Bills fans did a solid job making noise when it was their turn.

     

    My wife, who was not at the game, happened to hear Mayfield’s post-game interview.  In a comment that makes you wonder if the guy is smart enough to be permitted to drive, let alone quarterback an NFL team, Mayfield complained that Browns fans have to learn not to make so much noise when the Browns have the ball.   Really, Baker?  You thought those were Browns fans making all that noise? 

     

    The Bills are close.  They need to get better, in every phase.  They need a little more talent, and they need the talent they have to play a little better. 

     

    On to Miami, another road game they should win, and if they’re going to make any noise this season, a game they must win.  Fitz will be waiting.

     

     

    GO BILLS!!!

     

    The Rockpile Review is written to share the passion we have for the Buffalo Bills. That passion was born in the Rockpile; its parents were everyday people of western New York who translated their dedication to a full day’s hard work and simple pleasures into love for a pro football team.

    Great Summary, thanks as always!

     

    I was in Alabama yesterday flying home to Canada-following the play by play while we waited for the plane to depart.  I was elated when Hughes took the fumble in for the TD as I followed the game thread on here. Then it was called back. Disheartening to say the least. Then my wife say, FG Damn he missed. I was so crushed thinking maybe this was a game we were going to escape with a win but not meant to be. I have chosen not to watch the recording and will jump right into Miami week.

     

    Lot's of good posts going around, tough board when we lose..reason for hope, reason for dispair. 

     

    I'm concerned we have yet to have "that game" we are looking for. I am now going to call it that "titans win over chiefs game" . It's awesome to be 6-3, still optimistic for the remainder of the season. But if we continue to beat the teams we should Miami, Denver, Jets, I would even put the Steelers in there even though they are playing well, does it really satisfy what we are looking for as a fan base yet.  At some point We need a statement win to be taken seriously byy the outside media and maybe even by a lot of us fans. Dallas would be a great national time to do it,  or lets take a shot at Baltimore, maybe get monkey off our back in NE. If we don't take any of these, then we will go down  this season as a middle of road team. Maybe that's what we are, not the doom and gloom some say on here, but not as great as we hoped..including myself. We need some more pieces and you are dead on about our WR. Maybe you can tell me, was Kroft in anyway a factor, target yesterday? 

     

    I like MCD, but I have to wonder about Singletary eight touches? Like I thought Daboll got the message last week but clearly..I dunno

     

    Like I said, I didn't watch this game, just super frustrated!

     

    Let's rebound this week! Go Bills!

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    Some mid-season thoughts re Allen and the team

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    Some really well thought out points. I’m really with you on number 4. There are a lot of organizations out there that are just a mess. It’s great to see we have a plan in place with some structure And continuity. . While not perfect I think Sean and Brandon continue to learn from their mistakes. Sean is held in pretty high regard around the league and I hope he’s with us for a long time. I also like knowing we have a young gm who is not afraid to pull off a trade if they think it’s in the best interest of the team. 

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    Observations from my first home game

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    Thanks for sharing! I can still remember the first time I walked through the tunnel to bills dolphins kelly vs Marino! Parked on some guys lawn before discovering the main tailgating lot! I only make it up once a year now but thought if I ever lived in Buffalo I’d have to be a season ticket holder! 
     

    I’m with you when we get that next playoff home game. The fans take it to another level! 
     

     

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    Around the NFL Week 9

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    2 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

    On the Gang Green forum, a member just suggested burning Gase’s home.  I think we’re positively genteel compared to those ruffians.

    Gase was the worst hire I’ve ever seen. All you had to see what he was in Miami. Some organizations just boggle my mind..not saying we haven’t made our share of bonehead moves haha 

    Postgame Thread Bills Redskins

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    1 minute ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:

    Josh has gone 98, 112, 82, 110 in passer rating and no picks in 3 straight games, only 1 in 4 games. His performance is flying under the radar a bit today!

    7 tds one Int since Tennessee. Not including rushing td. I’m Ok with that. I want him to  Just continue to grow in all areas. He does need help and you can see that today with some drops that could have been catches.

     

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    Best start since 1993.

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    9 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

    In 1993, I was a 20 year old specialist in the US Army.

     

    Today I'm 46 years old. I will never EVER complain about this team this season because they're winning. Get on board, people, or get the hell out of the way.

     

    I’m 40 and remember the 90’s well! It’s been a long time with a lot of mediocre seasons. I’m enjoying it!! From Canada btw but appreciate your service to your country! 

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    Bills 24, Redskins 9 Game Balls

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    1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said:


    Too many fumbles tho - what is up with that 

    He’s competitive by nature where sliding doesn’t seem to be his thing.. I still say on a lot of his fumbles last week he had no chance and today the Washington guy made a great play. Maybe they should find Allen anytime he doesn’t slide to Ingrain in his head. 

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