GunnerBill
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Yep i thought different last night too. But was wrong. There are only two teir of coaches
HC
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Non HC
Yep. I think I only became aware during our last search. There is Head Coach or Assistant Coach. I, like you, think that should probably changed to recognise a coordinator job but I don't think things like "Assistant Head Coach" should be recognised as any higher than a position coach.
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my method of yelling "throw the !@#$ing ball!" as TT held it for 4 seconds and "went through his professions" seems like it would be helpful
Right there with you Yolo. I think I have said before... my neighbours in London probably don't watch the NFL and they have no idea who "Tyrod" is but they know I would like him to "throw the !@#$ing thing" more often.
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I'd rather Kromer who I believe is still available.
Depends if they intend to kick the tires on Cutler....
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Want to hear McDermott come on strong and elbow Whaley right off the stage, but he probably won't. Still boggles the mind that Whaley selected Ragland over Lynch. No wonder McCoy went to Denver.
Ragland over Lynch?
Lynch was long gone.
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He's headed back to college, just waiting for the right opportunity. He'll never be in the NFL again.
This. And that is where he belongs. Bye Chip. Your revolution failed.
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There is still one continuity option...... Chris Palmer?
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Still, he might have given a great interview while being a terrific leader of men. The man was the DB coach in Cincy, Houston and San Fran previous to his one bad season as DC for the Dolphins. To me, it's all about coaching and how that translates to the field. Miami was 18th in points allowed and 29th in yards allowed. While that Miami defense did lead the NFL in defensive hurries they were also 21st in sacks.
I would much rather hire a Kyle Shanahan who took a bunch of top players and turned them into an elite unit. That Falcon offense is amazing and the play calls in feeding the playmakers kind of reminds me of what Ted Marchibroda did with the Bills in Buffalo.
And that is exactly what I'm saying. What you - a fan - looks for, is different to what teams are looking for.
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Musgrave and Olsen are the two big experienced names on the market. Both have had very odd careers with some big highs (that year Olsen got from Freeman in Tampa still amazes me) and some pretty dismal lows....
Either would have some convincing to do for me.
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Absolutely. That is my hope. He is overseeing McDermotts defense.
Let's face it, Sean M. Was hired here to fix the D so he will have a big say over the play calls and the scheme. He knows if the D fails, his head coaching career will be short lived.
And Frazier has run the Jim Johnson D before.... a D coordinator who has coached multiple schemes in his career. I think this is a good hire and I will judge it by success or otherwise on the field.
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Not to mention that Wade Phillips got no interest as a HC and neither did Jim Schwartz.
Also, I don't get the hiring of defensive coordinators who had a bad year and I'm still quite puzzled over the Vance Joesph hire to Denver. Are the Broncos ready to tank this year to get the #1 pick because I just don't get losing Philips who built a great 3-4 to a HC who runs a 4-3. Mike McCoy will certainly help with their offense and unless Elway pulls a miracle out of his backside the defense looks to take a big hit.
Because they were not hiring him based on how his defense played. They interviewed him two years ago when he was still just a position coach and identified him as a potentially good leader of a franchise. They were always hiring Kubiak that time if he wanted the job but they clearly felt Joseph was an excellent candidate and runner up. They hired him because they like him as a leader. What his defense did or didn't do in Miami makes no odds.
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My buddy is a big Tampa Bay fan. He said Frazier is the worst DC they've seen down there in a long time. He is surprised McDermott hired him and Leslie won't last more than 2 seasons.
OK that being said, if Whaley provides good players I think most of these coaches will suddenly look a lot better, a lot smarter. We'll see.
He was running the Tampa 2 for Lovie down there. He has been hired here to run the Jim Johnson defense. No doubt.
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I will see our blanket statement and raise you!
Of course they can. If someone's contract is up they can go anywhere and someone could have a buy out clause.
So they can right? That's what I thought. Bye bye
Contracts end at the end of a season. If someone is not hired until February then by that point every other team will have its assistants under contract for the rest of that year.
You were trying to argue that a team hiring a new HC in February could just go to his previous team and lift his staff from his side of the ball. That is patently untrue.
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After the season they can.
No they can't.
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I don't buy the ' you can't build a good staff in February' line. Wait till then. Hire your person and then have them bring their staff from their side of the ball. The one place there is no cap is FO and coaching staff. And if the candidate you are wanting to hire can't guarantee he can bring a staff/put one together, you don't want them. Which may be what is happening to a few of these Cords still in it.
They can't just "bring their staff from their side of the ball." Because their current employer is under no obligation to allow those staff to move on. As has been discussed at length... the only interview an NFL team can't block is a Head Coach interview. It is why Superbowl bound coordinators often don't get jobs that same year.... because you are left scrabbling around for a staff.
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Also.... where are all those people who were telling me 6 weeks ago I was wrong about Lynn being a hot HC candidate? Interviewed for 5 of the 6 jobs and landed one.
I'm pleased for Lynn and wish him success except for when we play San Diego.
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Yeah, that roster in Minny wasnt very good, so I wouldn't hold that against him too much
He made the playoffs one year with it too.
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I think what fans and media presume teams are looking for and what teams are actually looking for are often quite different.
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I really don't know, but I was under the impression Asst to Coordinator was free to go. Maybe that's just the decent thing to allow?
Yep. Just the decent thing. People do get blocked though. I think the Packers blocked McAdoo for a year before letting him go.
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Isn't that what McDermott does? Rush 4, play a lot of zone and throw in the occasional blitz?
Some truth to this. They mix up their coverages more than what you might term a traditional Jim Johnson defense but what McDermott does do is attack the A gap early and often. Watching the Panthers you often see the first blitz they call in a game is a double A gap blitz.
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Not that it would make a difference because OC's have absolutely no say over drafting personnel
That really depends on the organisation. Some organisations (and I believe the Bills have in the last few years been one) are very collabrative. I think when those organisations choose Quarterbacks they absolutely seek their OCs opinion.
Doesn't mean they draft their OCs preference all the time but especially in Buffalo if you think, for example, Marrone and Hackett were not consulted before the EJ draft then I say you are probably wrong. Doesn't mean they said "Draft EJ" but I do believe their opinion on the QBs will have been sought. Otherwise why have them at the pro days and visits?
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McCoy is gone and I don't really care for Lynn. What I'd like to know is how involved was Musgrave with the drafting of Carr?
He wasn't there when Carr was drafted.
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Castillo is an excellent OL coach. Was Reid's OL coach for almost his whole time with Eagles. Oddly enough, he replaced McDermott as DC when Reid fired him, which is a whole lotta late era Eagles/Andy Reid drama.
Reid totally lost the plot there. If ever there was a guy who needed a change of scenary Reid was it.
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It is my last day in my current job tomorrow. I am having leaving drinks after work and 2pm is 7pm over here.
Do the Bills pay no heed to my social calendar when arranging these things?
I will end up watching this hungover on Saturday morning.
Who will be our OC?
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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One of the two Chiefs co-OCs would make sense. I'd prefer Nagy of the two.