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3 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:
only benifit being split is the Bye. This does not affect EITHER TEAM other than they both get a bye. SO i wholeheartedly disagree
How you gonna give two teams a bye with 8 teams involved? You'd have 6 teams playing and 2 on a bye. The 6 teams play 3 games, producing three winners.
3+2 = 5
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2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:
Don't be so sure. I expect a hybrid solution.
1. No Bye, 8 teams get in.2. Split the 1 seed benefits. 1 seed picks Bye or Home Field, 2 seed gets other
3. AFC Title Game neutral field if two of BUF KC CIN make it.Doesn't make sense to split the 1 seed benefits AND have the AFC Championship at a neutral site. If KC, for example, chooses the bye, then the Bills should get HFA throughout, regardless of who's playing.
2 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:8 teams get in, 2 teams get the bye, KC with home field advantage against buffalo. AFC and NFC. I think the entire NFL League and Fans would love this outcome.
8 teams with two byes means 6 teams playing 3 games on WC weekend, producing 3 winners. Meaning there would be 5 teams in the divisional round. So, that wouldn't work, unless you can find a way to have three teams play in one game.
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6 minutes ago, Motor26 said:
Which is why it is so important for the NFL to announce a decision to the Bills Bengals game BEFORE this weekend.
It's coming soon, I'm pretty sure:
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4 minutes ago, Gugny said:
I usually throw it away.
I do the same thing for the Mets and when they lost in the NLCS to the Cardinals, I brought it to one of my Cardinal fan friends for him to enjoy.
There's your answer. New season, new bottle.
Also, obviously, NEVER pull a bottle out again until the clock is at triple zeroes.
5 minutes ago, wagon127 said:You need new bottles for each game, but don't touch the 13 seconds bottle until the Bills are touching the Lombardi trophy.
Can't agree with keeping the bottle. Keeping it too close to a new bottle could pass on bad juju.
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What have you done in the past?
Like, what happened to the bottle from the 2020 AFC Championship Game?
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3 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said:
If we lose this weekend to the Pats, wouldn't that set us up for a rematch against the Pats the following weekend? I'd for sure take that. If the Chiefs win on Saturday, I say rest Josh, Diggs, Poyer, anyone that's banged up, really, against the Pats.
Not necessarily. If the Bills lose and the Bengals win, the Bengals would get the #2 seed based on the strength of victory tiebreaker.
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1 minute ago, Buffalo03 said:
So to be clear, if I'm hearing it right, the only time a championship game will be on a neutral field is its Bills vs Bengals or Bills vs Chiefs. If it's Bills vs Chargers, Jaguars, or whoever gets the 7 then the game would be played in Buffalo?
Or, Bengals/Chiefs. That's how I am reading it as well.
That said, I also read this as either/or. Either they're gonna have the AFC Championship at a neutral site, if two of those three teams are involved, OR the #1 seed gets a choice between home field and a bye, while the #2 gets the other.
It makes no sense for the Chiefs to get to choose a bye or HFA, only to have the game at a neutral site, if 2 of the Bills, Bengals and Chiefs are in it. If the Chiefs choose the bye, the Bills should get HFA, regardless of who they play.
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22 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:
Yes, and if both the Chiefs and Bills lose the Bengals would still have a chance for the top 2 spots.
They'd also have a chance to lose the AFC North to the Ravens. The Bills/Bengals game not being played essentialy hands the division to the Bengals.
I get that no solution is gonna be victim proof here. That can't be avoided. A couple teams are gonna get a bit burned here. What CAN be done is to split the benefits of the 1 seed in half to balance things a bit.
If the Bills and Chiefs win, KC would then get the choice of a bye or HFA. The Bills get the other.
If the Bills and Chiefs lose, while the Bengals win, you could again split the HFA and bye between KC and Cincy.
If the Bills and Bengals win, while the Chiefs lose, the Bills get the 1, while you could have KC choose between having the 2 or 3 seed, based on the matchup, or having HFA if the Chiefs and Bengals meet in the divisional round.
Again, at least every team would have something to play for, while not weighing one seed over the other as dramatically as it would be normally.
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54 minutes ago, Mango said:
I don't necessarily feel bad for Pittsburgh or Baltimore in this scenario. The Ravens lost their control over the division with a lost to Pittsburgh, and Pittsburgh was never in control. KC seems to get a small benefit and BUF/CIN doesn't feel like a big deal to either team.
The issue Baltimore would have is that, if they beat Cincy on Sunday, they'd have beaten them both times and only have one more loss. But, the Bengals would be awarded the division based on better winning percentage, despite playing less games.
Pittsburgh can still get in. This only affects their chances if the Bills rest starters vs NE due to not being able to get the 1 seed. If I had to guess, I'd say the Bills will want to put their best effort forward for Damar and the chance of locking down the 2 seed at minimum.
I don't see KC getting the #1 seed as a "small benefit." They'd be getting a bye AND HFA. The fact that the Bills and Bengals BOTH beat KC head to head make it an even bigger benefit.
Again, there's no 100% fair way to do it, but I'm leaning towards, if KC is getting the 1 seed that way, they should have to choose between having the bye or HFA, not both.
6 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:Well I believe the Solution beaing bandied about by Scheffter and others about the 1 an 2 seeds having a choice between a bye and Home field is a real fair possibility.
IMO, this is about as fair as you can make it, without disrupting everything. If KC beats the Raiders and the Bills beat the Patriots, they'd each have 3 losses. Due to the extra game, KC would have a higher winning percentage. So, they get the choice of either HFA or a bye to the divisional round. The Bills get the other. The team that got the bye would then have to go on the road if the two teams met in the AFC Championship. It also helps ensure that all of the games this weekend still have at least some level of importance, so nobody is playing backups.
At least, in that situation, KC isn't just being handed the #1 seed and all of the benefits that go with it.
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3 hours ago, Rochesterfan said:
Not really - I think 100% it is what both the Bills and Bengals would prefer over having to shoehorn the game in.
This fits well within the NFL rules that are established and logistically makes the most sense.
Yep KC gets a small benefit potentially and Baltimore gets slightly screwed, but it does not change the playoff teams and I imagine both the Bills and Bengals would sign off on this in a minute to prevent every other scenario presented - where they have to make up the game.
There is not an option/rule that allows for or makes any sense to award a victory in a game in the 1st quarter that can not be completed. The NFL was not and should not consider coin toss/lottery ball or any other method of creating a false victor in the game.
There has always been exactly 2 choices in the outcome: complete the game or declare it a no contest as those are the options in the NFL rulebook for this situation.
If they go no contest - then it was always going to move to winning percentage as that is what they established and what was talked about and agreed to during Covid if any games were cancelled.
Oh, I don't disagree that it's a better solution than shoehorning the game in. Just kinda sucks that, after all of the focus on getting the #1 seed, it's gone because of this and the one team that both the Bengals and Bills beat head to head is the beneficiary.
Thinking about it more, I'm curious why they couldn't use another metric besides winning percentage, since there would be an uneven amount of games played. Why not strength of victory? At least that would allow the uneven number of wins to be weighted in an even metric.
Another idea that I've seen floated is to split the benefits of the #1 seed between two teams if all three win this weekend. Give KC the option of either HFA OR the bye. The Bills would get the other.
As I've said in other posts, there's no clean, simple answer and some team (or teams) are gonna get shafted a little here.
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53 minutes ago, Herc11 said:
I'm curious if there is a replay, do the rosters have to remain how they were when the game was suspended? Or can they Bills call up Xavier Rhodes from PS and/or activate/inactivate different players?
Well, they cut Rhodes today, so guessing that's a no.
In all seriousness, the discussion has been had elsewhere and we're in uncharted territory. I don't recall a suspended game ever being resumed at a later date, so no idea what the roster rules would be.
I would THINK that, if they were to resume the game, the teams would be limited to who was on the active roster when the game started, but again, that's just my guess and, to the best of my knowledge, there's nothing in the rulebook about it, either.
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Just now, Big Blitz said:
Really sucks that the Chiefs would benefit here, especially since they lost to both the Bills and Bengals, but it's also most likely the easiest solution.
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1 minute ago, die hard bills fan said:
If NFL comes out and says before the weekend that bills and bengals do not play and somehow awards KC #1 if they win on saturday, does Buffalo forfeit the game against Pats thereby getting a rest week and not caring about #2 seed?
Forfeit? I doubt it. Rest starters? Quite possible.
Even though the #2 seed doesn't get a bye, they would still get HFA in the divisional round, so it's not exactly a "nothing to play for" situation.
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12 minutes ago, Paul Costa said:
I didn’t read the 28 pages to find out my Question. Is there protocol of a game be suspended because of a stoppage in play and what to do? Start game over or pick up where they left off?
In most cases, like weather delays, they pick up where they left off.
However, we're in uncharted territory here. I'm not aware of a game that was postponed and NOT completed that same day. I recall reading somewhere that the game is to be resumed within two days of it's stoppage. Well, we're past that point now.
I would GUESS that, if the game is played, it would start from the point they left off, but that is only my guess.
Questions also arise from the gameday rosters. What if a guy on the gameday roster is hurt or released when the game resumes? Can the team name a replacement, or do they essentially play shorthanded? Or, vice versa, if a guy was hurt or not on the team on gameday, but is healthy on the resume date, can he play?
Long story short, there really isn't an answer, at least that I'm aware of, that covers this particular situation.
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6 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said:
Yep - it is one of the worst ideas and I do not seen Buffalo or Cincinnati going for it.
Not to mention, if KC beats the Raiders, the Bengals can't get the #1 seed regardless. Why would they bother playing, knowing they have a playoff opponent coming off of a bye the next week whether they win or lose?
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9 minutes ago, quinnearlysghost88 said:
If it wasn’t discussed already
So, if the Chiefs get the #1 seed, they'd get two weeks off (week 19 & 20) and the Bills and Bengals have to play a playoff game the next week, while their opponent had a bye.
Seems unfair to the Bills and Bengals, while rewarding every other AFC team. In that scenario it's better for the Bills and Bengals to skip the game altogether. That way, at least their opponents in the playoffs don't get a bye, while the Bills/Bengals game is happening.
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42 minutes ago, DCofNC said:
The NFL is praying the Chefs lose this week, then they can reveal it will be a no-contest before Cinci and Buffalo play their games, Cinci can come away with the 2 and the Bills can still take the 1 or if Bills lose they fall and nobody is shocked.
As has been stated by others, you're essentially giving every playoff team besides the Bills and Bengals a bye week. That's a pretty sizeabale disadvantage for the Bills and Bengals.
Also, if KC were to get the #1 seed, they'd get two weeks off. I'm guessing the Bills and Bengals would rather not play than try to shoehorn in a game while every other playoff team is resting at home.
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1 minute ago, Chuck Schick said:
I doubt very strongly that there will be any type of "roster lock" like you describe. This flies in the face of everything the league has done insofar as making sure teams get as many healthy bodies on the gameday squad as possible, up to the 53 limit.
I mean, I could be wrong, certainly. But, I'm guessing that if they're going to continue from the point the game stopped, they'd have to use the same rosters. Now, if, for whatever reason, they decided to start the game over (which I don't see them doing) the teams would submit new gameday rosters.
We're obviously in uncharted territory here, as I don't think a game has ever been suspended and continued at a later date, but this is also the same league that forced Denver to start a WR at quarterback not too long ago, so who knows what they'd do?
All that said, I don't think the game is being resumed, regardless. At this point, to do it, you're upending the entire playoff schedule. My guess is the league wants the solution that keeps the original schedule intact as much as possible.
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45 minutes ago, henry jones said:
This is obviously unchartered territory and who knows if they will reschedule the game… but if they do, would the NFL force the Bills to play with the same lineup? Would they go into the game being down 2 DB’s? Again, I realize it’s all hypothetical at this point.
I would assume that the active gameday rosters would be locked in. I mean, there's been talk of Hyde coming back, but if this game is rescheduled, I doubt he'd be allowed to participate, even if healthy and cleared. On that same note, Hubbard for the Bengals wouldn't be allowed to play, either.
The unknown here is Taron Johnson. I get that Hamlin's situation is far more serious, but we don't know Johnson's situation, or at least I haven't heard anything. I would guess he WOULD be allowed to play if able, as he was on the gameday roster.
4 minutes ago, DCofNC said:The NFL is praying the Chefs lose this week, then they can reveal it will be a no-contest before Cinci and Buffalo play their games, Cinci can come away with the 2 and the Bills can still take the 1 or if Bills lose they fall and nobody is shocked.
Bengals wouldn't get the #2 seed even with a KC loss and a win over Baltimore. KC would be 13-4, while Cincinnati would be 12-4. The only way the Bengals get the #2 in that scenario is if the Bills lose to NE, as the Bengals would win the SOV tiebreaker over the Bills for the #2 seed.
If the Bills/Bengals game isn't played, some team, in some form or fashion, will get the short end of the stick. Not saying that it should be played, just saying that, if it isn't, the lack of a game result there is gonna affect a team or two.
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9 minutes ago, DJB said:
for as much crap as Thibedwaux has taken I honestly don’t think he knew the condition of Foles. He never looked over at him or anything .I blame the Giants teammates for not stopping him
I saw it live on the broadcast and it was a bit disturbing, especially with how long Thibodeaux was doing the snow angels. Actually surprised he wasn't penalized for taunting.
While I don't disagree about him not knowing at the time of the snow angels, this also happened:
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I know most everyone's mind is elsewhere, but just realized that today is the 30th anniversary of the (now former) Greatest Comeback in NFL history against the Oilers.
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2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:
Bills at Bengals as first game of Wild Card weekend. A “bye” in that both teams move on to the Divisional round
1 KC
2 BUF vs 3 CIN (Top 3 Reseeding)
4 vs 7
5 vs 6
So, KC gets a bye, the Bills play the Bengals, but both advance to the next round, while 4 plays 7 and 5 plays 6?
You'd have KC, BUF, CIN and two other teams in the divisional round. How you gonna have games with 5 teams?
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1 minute ago, BillsShredder83 said:
I dont want to go too far down this rabbit hole for obv reasons... but how extra insane does that make Raiders look for benching Carr, if theres an extra team. Couldve won Sunday already, add this and seems theyre best fit for that extra wildcard
Wouldn't work anyway. 2 byes and 6 tams playing three games gives you 5 teams remaining at the end of the first weekend.
Dunno how you go from 5 teams to two for the AFC Championship the following week.
Official: (Bengals) Game will not be resumed this week UPDATE: OFFICIALLY CANCELLED
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That's why I said before, if you're splitting the bye and HFA, you don't have any "neutral field" nonsense. That would nullify the advantage the team that receives HFA would get, if they would have to play at a neutral site anyway.