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3 hours ago, st pete gogolak said:
Someone previously posted that Bills would have nothing to play for Sunday if the Chiefs won because they would be locked into #2 seed based on having tiebreaker over Bengals if Bengals beat Ravens and Bills lost to Pats. Based on the flowchart that's incorrect. Is it? Even if Chiefs won and Bills did have tiebreaker over Bengals, Bills would still be playing for chance to have AFCC played at neutral site instead of KC.
If the Bengals win, they would overtake the Bills if the Bills were to lose to the Patriots based on the SOV tiebreaker. The Bills would also lose the opportunity to have a neutral site game if they met the Chiefs in the AFC Championship, even if the Bengals lost and the Bills held onto the 2 seed.
Even with a Chiefs win today, the Bills have plenty to play for tomorrow.
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4 hours ago, TH3 said:
So if Bills lose and Bengals win tomorrow ….and they go in as Bills 3 and Bengals 2….Bills play AT Bengals in divisional round?
Correct.
2 hours ago, strive_for_five_guy said:
If the Ravens end up hosting the Bengals, are they also assigned the 3 seed, or are they still a 6 seed? Just curious if they were to then win first round and the 2 seed lost, would they be hosting the 4/5 winner as the 3 seed in the divisional round, or would they go on the road somewhere as the 6 seed?They haven't said anything about the seeds changing and they've made it clear that Cincinnati is the North Champions regardless, so I'm gonna assume that Baltimore would still be the 6 seed and have to go on the road.
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29 minutes ago, stevestojan said:
Wait. I thought if two teams play who could have been the 1 seed would play at a neutral site? Why would we host the chiefs?
Because, if the Chiefs lose and the Bills win, the Chiefs would be 13-4, while the Bills would be 13-3. Because the Bills won the H2H tiebreaker, even if you count the Bengals game as a loss, the Bills still would have finished ahead of the Chiefs.
The neutral site scenarios are only for potential games that could have had a different host had the Bills/Bengals game been completed.
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7 minutes ago, Turbo44 said:
Huge game for Bills:
1. They can eliminate NE from the playoffs
2. By winning they can get the 1 seed, if Chiefs loses. Even if Chiefs win, by winning we get 2 home games in the playoffs and a neutral game in the championship (or better yet a 3rd home game if KC loses before the Championship round)
3. If we lose to NE, and Cinci beats Baltimore (which they will) we play a tougher team in RD 1, probably have to go on the road vs Cinci in rd 2 and probably would have to go on the road in the AFC Championship vs KC
This game is huge and coming in from CT cuz I feel I have to be there
If JAX, CLE and NYJ all win, New England still gets in even if the Bills beat them.
If the Bills lose and Cincy wins, the Bengals host the Patriots and the Bills host the Ravens in the Wild Card round.
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1 minute ago, machine gun kelly said:
Glad I’m not the only one.Especially with the craziness this year. I've already gotten a few texts among the lines of "You're bringing the paper Sunday, right?"
"The paper" being the scenarios charted out, which gets folded into a piece of origami to hide the scenarios of teams that lose throughout the day.
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46 minutes ago, mannc said:
What happens if Chiefs win, Bills lose and Bengals win? Who would host the second round game between Bengals and Bills? (Both would be 12-4, with no head-to-head tie-breaker.)
It will be very interesting to see which “neutral field” is selected. I suppose it won’t be announced any time soon, and in fact might not even be necessary…
Cincinnati would host in that scenario. They would hold the SOV tiebreaker. Bills would be the #3 seed and host Baltimore. Cincy would be the #2 and host New England.
Neutral fields I've heard about are Atlanta or Indianapolis. Detroit is getting new turf, so that's out, as they've already started the process.
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5 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:
I'll just watch the Saturday games to see what happens.
Sunday morning will have any "left over" scenario's drummed into all our heads.
LOL.
Probably the easiest way, lol However, I usually get tasked with explaining the scenarios to most everyone in the Bills Backers group at the bar I go to, so I kinda prepare in advance.
As of now, there are 128 seeding scenarios left. By the time the Bills kick off, it'll be down to 32, so much easier to navigate then, lol
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11 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:
I realize that. I was just unaware. So if Ravens win, they're flipping a coin for home field for WC weekend??
If the Chargers win, yes.
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1 minute ago, JerseyBills said:
Wait what's up with this coin flip thing? Now I'm confused
Coin flip has zero to do with the Bills. Only between Baltimore and Cincinnati if the Ravens win Sunday and they'd meet in the first round of the playoffs.
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1 minute ago, Dick_Cheney said:
The Raiders really do have a shot at winning against the Chiefs. I know it's unlikely, based upon how those Chiefs games seemingly always go, but look at the last four games the Chiefs have won. Twice against the Broncos, the failling Seahawks, and the mighty Houston Texans. Some of those games were close and none were blowouts.
The Raiders went toe to toe with San Fran and lost in overtime. They beat New England and they beat the Chargers. Granted they did lose to the Rams and Steelers, by a combined 4 point margin, both road games instead of at home. Yeah, the QB situation is obviously a factor, but from what little we've seen it does look like he's a good fit for the current system.
So yeah, we know how this situation almost always plays out, but maybe this will be one of those rare occasions where it doesn't go KC's way. Depends on if the Raiders show up to play relatively mistake free football with nothing on the line but respect and the chance to screw over the Chiefs. Let's hope that's enough.
I'm not a conspiracy theorist or anything, but I will say this: Kansas City losing and the Bills winning this weekend makes a good chunk of their issues regarding seeding a moot point.
3 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:I'm confused now lol. The chart shows Buf playing in Buf as the 1 seed regardless of opponent
Yep. If the Bills get the 1 seed, they will have homefield throughout, regardless of who they play.
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1 minute ago, Whites Bay said:
Man, I hope it's a warm, calm dome. I feel good about those chances.
From what I've read, the top potential sites are Indianapolis and Atlanta.
Detroit is replacing their turf after the season and since they know the Lions won't be at home for the playoffs, they've already started, so Detroit is out: https://www.si.com/nfl/lions/news/lions-move-up-field-turf-replacement
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5 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:
Hou and Den brought KC down to the wire. This game isn't a gimmie for kc buf or cincy
So if we get the 1 seed and play KC or Cincy it'll be in Buffalo?
Correct.
Long story short, if the Bills win, they will only play outside of Orchard Park if they face the Chiefs in the AFC Championship and that'll be a neutral site game.
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Found this elsewhere and figured it'd be worth posting, so the question of who gets what seed under X result can be consolidated into one, easy to read spot.
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36 minutes ago, Reks Ryan said:
That’s not what the league is saying.
From NFL.com“The AFC Championship Game will be played at a neutral site if the participating teams played an unequal number of games and both could have been the number one seed and hosted the game had all AFC clubs played a full 17-game regular season”
Read the bolded.
The Bills and Bengals will have each played 16 games. Thus, the participating teams will have played an equal number of games.
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3 minutes ago, Reks Ryan said:
If KC loses and BIlls & Bengal both win, then the outcome of Bills v Bengals would’ve decided #1 seed. Since game was canceled AFCG goes to neural site
Nope.
The game was cancelled, so it in effect does not exist. As a result, the Bills would finish 13-3, while the Bengals would be 12-4.
You have to look at it as if the Bills and Bengals weren't scheduled to meet at all this season. There is no tiebreaker because there is no tie. The Bills have the better record, so they host.
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Long story short here is, as long as the Bills win Sunday, they will not go on the road, unless they play KC and even that would be at a neutral location.
IF KC loses Saturday and the Bills win, the Bills could host KC in the AFC Championship in Buffalo.
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7 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:
I'm kinda torn because what if Atlanta is the neutral site for the AFCCG? Then I selfishly get to see them here but it should be in Buffalo. That's the Mothership and I live in a Satellite Bills location.
The only way it would be at a neutral site is if the Bills make it as the road team.
Regardless of what else happens, if the Bills win Sunday, they will not go on the road, except if they play the Chiefs and that would be at a neutral site.
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So, long story short for the Bills:
KC loss + Bills win = Bills #1 Seed - Bye and HFA
KC win + Bills win OR CIN loss = Bills #2 Seed - Potential Wild Card Round matchups are JAX, NE, MIA, PIT
Bills lose + Bengals win = Bills #3 Seed - Hosting BLT in the Wild Card Round
Of the remaining teams in the playoff hunt, the Bills cannot play the Titans or Chargers in the Wild Card Round.
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1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said:
No. Whoever the 1 seed is after week 18 based on Win% gets to select whether they want the Bye or Home Field.
The 2 seed gets whichever is not elected
I don't see why the Bills wouldn't get the #1 outright if the Chiefs lose and the Bills win.
They'd be a game up in the loss column, plus they'd have the tiebreaker on KC.
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2 minutes ago, Dan Darragh said:
and if we hadn't fumbled the snap against Minny none of this would matter
Crazy how one play can completely change a season, huh?
Last year, the QB sneak against Tennessee cost the Bills the #1 seed and now this one play could end up doing the same.
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1 minute ago, Airseven said:
I presume in this scenario, the Bills wouldn’t be hit with a forfeit. Yes, I guess it’s still possible if they were to take an L last week and yet still wind up ahead based on this week’s outcomes. So long as it’s announced by tomorrow. Good points all around.I don't think a forfeit is happening, regardless. Even announcing it as a tie messes with winning percentage. I'm guessing it's ruled a no contest.
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1 minute ago, LanderPoke said:
They have no chance without Carr
I mean, they looked ok last week without him.
Not saying they WILL beat KC, but Houston took the Chiefs to OT and the Colts beat them, so it's not like it's impossible.
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1 minute ago, Airseven said:
If true, the Bills can’t be the #1 seed with home field advantage throughout the playoffs and a bye. It’d be off the table. 👎If KC loses to the Raiders and the Bills beat NE, they'd be a game ahead of KC in the loss column, along with having the tiebreaker.
I don't see how the Bills wouldn't be awarded the #1 seed, along with the bye and HFA if that were to happen.
Week 18: Pats at Bills, Sunday 1/8 1pm
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If the Bills finish as the #2 seed, they can play NE, MIA, PIT or JAX in the WC Round. If JAX wins tonight, they'd be removed from this list.
If the Bills finish as the #3 seed they WILL play Baltimore.
If the Bills win, an AFC Championship game between the Bills and Chiefs would be at a neutral site. If the Bills lose, the AFC Championship would be played at the highest remaining seed, as it is normally.