KikO M G
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So what do we have here? Some people believe Manuel has the tools to be a franchise QB, and some don't. We won't know the answer by the end of this season but if Manuel plays all 6 games, we will have a much better idea. He doesn't have to be the best, but he has to be a top 15 QB for the team to be a playoff contender. If he demonstrates that ability, the Bills should stick with him, even potentially through another "development" year. If he doesn't show that ability, and the team ends up with a top 5 pick, they would be foolish to pass on a better QB prospect out of embarrassment to admit that EJ didn't pan out as they had planned.
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Good QBs win, bad QBs don't. The rest is just details to keep everyone talking and thinking that they have it all figured out.
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My point was to dig deeper into the stats. A lot of people see "Ranked 30th in Rush Defense" and assume that nothing has changed from past years. In reality, we are allowing a full YPC less than last year.
Detroit is currently ranked Top 10 in rushing defense.
However, they have only gone against 203 rushing attempts. The Bills have seen 296 rushing attempts.
Bills are allowing 4.0 YPC. Detroit is allowing 4.5 YPC.
I must ask...Do you not feel the defense has improved this year?
It has. And the offense is worse. All told, it adds up to the same losing record.
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Here are the statistics demonstrating the Bills' defense is terrible. Take away this, add that, factor in injuries, and they're actually middle of the pack!
Sorry I am not persuaded by this post, though I do appreciate the thought put into it.
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Jets punch Buffalo in the face in a 24-10 rout. EJ to Chandler garbage time TD with under 3 mins to go.
I think you just gave us the recap of the PIT game with some very slight changes.
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Marrone came out with this stat today:
Manuel had the 3rd best QBR through his first 5 games of any QB since 2000. Translation: game 6 was an anomaly and he was on the right track before the injury.
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Why do people think this? The salary cap for rookies has changed drastically. Teams are no longer committed to their 1st round pick for 3-4 years. We owe EJ approximately $1M per year over the next 4 years - that's not a financial commitment we are tied down with. Heck, that's nothing.
I'm not abandoning EJ, I still want to watch him play out these last 6 games and watch for improvement. But if these last 6 games resemble what happened in Pitt last week, then we have to draft a QB early.
This is the only reasonable opinion on the issue. If the bills have a top 5 pick it means EJ did nothing in these final 6 games and Marrone better abandon him if he wants any chance at keeping his job. If the Bills pass on ANOTHER quality NFL QB early in next year's draft all the while standing by EJ who could not demonstrate anything in his rookie year, then they deserve to be perpetually in the basement.
If EJ steps up and wins games, gets us to 8-8 or even 7-9, you stand by him.
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If the Bills play like they did against NE, BAL, CAR, KC, MIA they will win. If they play like they did against the Jets last time or against PIT they will lose.
But I agree with everyone who says the point of these last 6 games is to figure out if EJ is the guy or has a reasonably good chance to become the guy. If so, this team can contend next year. If not, they have to seriously consider drafting a QB in the early rounds and holding another open competition in camp.
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One of the most encouraging deep scouting reports on EJ before the season was that he was a fast learner and didn't repeat mistakes. I've actually found that to be about as incorrect as you could possibly be. He looked good in his first two games and you saw the talent, and also the room to grow.
Here we are after week 10 and he has still never looked better than he did in those first two games. I understand he's had major injuries, but the scouting report also said he was durable...
My issue is they put EJ in one week too early. Marrone in his WR interview even said he was rusty. Why not give him a second week of practice, get his rhythm down and put him in for Jets. Tuel never belongs on the field, but Thad did a decent enough job we could have used him in Pittsburgh. He knows the Steelers and I think would have done a better job.
I'm not going to trash EJ for one game. He was rushed back on field. I blame the coaches for that decision, and I like our coaching staff.
If he's bad again vs. the Jets, will you still blame the coaches?
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Because CJ was awful. Avoiding wide open holes so he could run our of bounds for no yards. Coach benched him because he was playing loser football.
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Where is this strong arm everyone has been talking about? On which of his 3 yard passes Sunday did he demonstrate it?
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To me, this game is trouble, for the following reasons: 1) Jets D, especially the front 7, is outstanding. 2) They are coming off of a bye with a short trip game. 3) Ryan is an exerienced coach going up against a rookie coach. 4) Smith has developed faster than Manuel due to lack of injury and playing time. 5) The Jets are fighting for a playoff spot. I hope I am wrong like last week when I picked the Steelers but I have to go with the Jets. I am beginning to wonder if the Bills will be able to recover from the KC debacle.
6) the Bills are bad at football.
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Check out Joe Buscaglia's photos he is tweeting of Spiller's runs. He missed big holes right up the middle and bounced outside instead. That's not Hackett's fault. It's also not Hackett's fault that EJ had no confidence to throw down field and checked down repeatedly even when more yardage was needed.
The offense simply didn't execute so there is no way to know whether the play calls would have worked had they been executed properly.
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Bills also have no cross-country trips all season. Take the good with the bad.
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The Bills will play hard if for no other reason than to spoil the Jets' playoff aspirations and to show that they didn't make the wrong QB choice. I actually am expecting the Bills to win and I will chalk it up under the "too little too late" category.
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Umm no. Tuel sucked against the Chiefs with the exception of the long ball to Goodwin. Tuel did not succeed despite having great run game support from the OL and the RBs.
Tuel sucked EXCEPT for that awesome TD bomb. Manuel sucked period. No except. That was the difference. I certainly am not a Tuel supporter, but I am bringing it up to highlight just how inexcusably bad EJ was yesterday.
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One game.....coming off injury on the road....and a rookie
That is all
Jeff Tuel, undrafted rookie, first start ever, against best Defense in NFL. And he played way better. Now that, is all.
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If Thad Lewis was the project drafted in the 1st round, I would be optimistic. If Tuel was the project drafted in the 1st round, I would be optimistic. Both of them, though not great, proved themselves capable of doing SOME things at the NFL level. What did Manuel show yesterday? In the most important game of the season for a team clinging to its season hopes? Absolutely nothing! No fight like Thad. No deep ball like Tuel. No creativity. No decision making. No confidence.
Being a project insinuates that you have first round talent that needs to be developed and refined. Where was that talent yesterday? Did you see ANY sign of it? Even for a moment? I didn't. And that tells me the first round pick was a giant swing and miss.
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The problem is all rational talk of running the table ended yesterday. That was an easy game and the Bills lost it, proving that no game is easy for them. I would like to see them go 8-8, but at this point I think that is highly unlikely and would rather them just lose out to realise that they need to draft another QB with their top 5 pick.
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Nope, they'll just screw up the talent evaluation again and the real impact players will be drafted after the Bills' selection.
2011: Bills pick third; 6 of the first 7 picks will be Pro Bowlers within two years. Guess who the Bills draft.
But Kiko, Woods and Goodwin all look like quality draft picks. Certainly Kiko was a great pick. This was a good draft for the Bills but it ultimately depends on whether EJ pans out because he is a QB and was taken in the first round. There is reason for optimism, IMO, that the drafting will continue to be good, but I do think they have to take a shot at another QB. What's to lose?
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I'm sorry I thought this was the NFL. Rusty? Just not an acceptable excuse, I'm sorry. He's been practicing for two weeks. He played worse than either Tuel or Thad did in their first games, when they were seeing their first live action, and neither of them were drafted.
EJ spends too much time tweeting about his college football team. Where is his head? Is he even focused on being a winning QB for the Bills? It certainly seemed like it at the beginning of the year, but now we all should be questioning whether he has the right mental makeup to go with all the question marks we already knew about his physical skill set.
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He didn't throw one good pass all game. At least Tuel had a few of them.
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How did we go from a solid team with so much potential to the worst team in the league in one week?
It's amazing, isn't it? But it happened.
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WHAT IF EJ CANT PLAY IN THE COLD OH NOES.
ESPN...DBL Coverage...Jets/Bills
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Rodak actually picked us last week. He, along with most of us, found out the hard way on Sunday that this Bills team just ain't that good.
However, I stopped following him on Twitter when he said the TD reception at the end of the game was made by Lee Smith.