KikO M G
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I'm sorry did I just fall asleep and wake up because last thing I was aware of was there was a lot of time left.
I guess some people take longer to get the message. the bills are a bad football team dude. They ain't winning this.
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Well you guys get your wish. Gilmore is dead.
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Like fools we've been talking for two weeks about winning out. The Bills can't even win one game against a two win team!!
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Wow, Geno Smith just had a wide open receiver on the side line and threw it 5 feet out of bounds.
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I assume we are (ugh) rooting for the Dolphins since we have another game against them and could win the tiebreaker with a sweep? Better to have the Jets lose. Right?
Yes, grin and bear it.
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So according to the TV listings, in Utica the double header game is CBS, which shows AFC games. This game is on Fox since it is an NFC team visiting an AFC team (I think that's how it works). The end result: This game is not televised in the Utica area. Fox has us seeing Arizona at Philadelphia for the early game, and no late game. I hope that is a mistake in the listings, but this has happened before so I won't be surprised if it happens again.
I live in Albany and the one Fox game is the Bills at 4 pm. Surprised it wouldn't be on it Utica.
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Actually it isnt......
What I am looking for is Buffalo to have control of their fate going into week 16.
Buffalo goes 3-0...beating ATL, tb, jax. seems reasonable
Jets need to lose one game, preferably against MIA (either this week, or week 17 works)
1. PIT need to lose 1...they play at GB with a healthy Aaron rodgers they arent beating the Packers with him playing.
2. CLE needs to lose 1...this week probably not--but next week at NE.
3. SD need to lose two...hosting CIN, Giants, Oakland, and KC and at Denver (week 15) seems difficult for them to go 4-1.
4. TEN needs to lose 2...at Indy and at Den, followed by hosting Arizona...they can easily lose 2.
5. Balt needs to lose one w/ 3 of final 4 on the road. very doable.
In the next 3 weeks all of #1-5 happening are very reasonable.
Each of these things happening is reasonable. I'm just not sure ALL of these things happening is reasonable. But that said, I completely agree that if the Bills win the next 3 they will likely still be in the hunt the final two weeks, and what's not to love about that?!
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The only hesistancy I have in picking a comfortable Bills win is not wanting to be burned for being over confident. But, after reminding myself that what I predict has absolutely nothing to do with the result, I say Bills 28 Falcons 17.
The Falcons have a superior passing game overall, but the Bills have a better run game and a better defense both with the run and pass. The Bills are also a much better team with turnovers, and I expect them to win that battle today to neutralize any advantage ATL has in the passing game. The Bills also have much more to play for right now, as the Falcons are completely out of the playoff hunt and there was even a report this week that they could be playing some rookies more to see what they have for next year. If there is any truth that this will be garbage time from the opening snap for ATL, the Bills have no excuse but to win convincingly.
With the Jets-Fins at 1 pm, we have a great day of football lined up! Go Bills!
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The Bills are being picked to win by approximately 80-90% of media "experts."
I read some where that Stevie was complaining about it publically, mentioned the fact that playing in a dome takes away the weather advantage they have in Buffalo.
I can't remember the last time in the last 10-15 years that the weather was an advantage for the Bills and they won because of it.
Week 12 vs Jets? There were other reasons besides the weather of course, but one QB threw with ease into the wind and one side not.
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Must root for the Dolphins....
why...
If the Jets were to go 4-1......they have MIA OAK car CLE mia
lose one to MIA---BUF has edge based on division record of 4-2 vs 3-3 of Jets
lose to CLE ---BUF wins by better conference record. Jets go 4-0 against NFC vs Buffalo 3-1
lose to OAK-- JETS win by better common game. Jets go 0-2 against noncommon vs BUF go 1-1 thus Jets have better common of 9-5 vs 8-6
lose to CAR--- complicated---same common, same conference record, its decided by strength of schedule and strength of victory.
Dolphins beat Jets...Buffalo wins out they are CERTAIN of 2nd place (better division record with Jets, season sweep of Dolphins) Then from there it can be a wild card based on other teams and divisions.
The Jets are assured of being at best 3-3 in the conference while if Buffalo wins out they are 4-2--thus have the second tie breaker. Buffalo needs the Jets to lose one and it be the the dolphins.
In order to earn a wild card Buffalo MUST finish in 2nd place as a first step.
How does Buffalo fare outside the division....
BUF over Balt due to H2H win
BUF lose to CIN, CLE, and PIT due to H2H loss
BUF lose to TEN because of conference record at 9-7
BUF vs SD---its complicated--it depends on who SD loses to and end up 9-7. SD schedule is CIN, NYG,den, OAK, KC. Say SD goes 4-1...
lose to Giants---SD has edge based on conference record.
lose to OAK or DEN---common games to SD
lose to KC or CIN---common games are same---strength of schedule, and then strength of victory. To close to call now.
its easier to hope SD lose 2.
so the ideal situation is BUF and BAL are tied at 9-7 with everyone else at 8-8 or worse.
In summary for a wild card....
1. BUF win out
2. Jets lose to MIA
3. have SD lose 2--they have a hard schedule playing all division opponets and CIN and NYG
4. have TEN lose 2---their next 3 games are tough @IND @DEN, AZ (hope they lose 2 of these--there final two are JAX and HOU)
5. have PIT lose 1---3 of last 4 at home against MIA, CLE, and CIN with road game at GB w/ rodgers likely playing in week 16.
6. have CLE lose 1 (*)--at NE in a few weeks
7. have BAL lose 1 (**)
(*)--there are some scenarios where CLE could win out but not pass baltimore at 9-7 thus not factor in.
Even if Baltimore wins out it may not matter only if...
NE loses to either @HOU or CLE AND @ MIA......
then NE would be going into week 16 at 9-5
in week 16 its ..
NE @ BAL
MIA @ BUF
If BAL beats NE and BUF wins then BUF @ NE turns into a winner take all for the division. They need NE to lose at MIA so then BUF would have the division edge of 4-2 vs 3-3.
IF NE were to lose both HOU and CLE but beating MIA then it get complicated because NE and BUF would have split H2H, same division record, same common game record, same conference record, then it would come down to: strength of schedule, and then strength of victory.
Strength of schedule is simplified to the noncommon games as the combined win total of:
BUF: KC + JAX
NE: DEN + HOU
this will be close.
strength of victory would come down to the combined win total of:
BUF: NE, NYJ, MIA, MIA, BAL, CAR, TB, ATL, JAX
NE: BUF, NYJ, MIA, IA, PIT, NO, TB, ATL, DEN
simplifies to:
BUF: BAL + CAR + JAX
NE: PIT + NO + DEN
i see NE having the edge here.
This is a very interesting and informative post but it also does a good job of quantifying just how unlikely it is that the Bills will make the playoffs.
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The Bills apparently practiced very well this week. Everyone was healthy. Practice was crisp and energetic. Hopefully that translates to Sunday. You worry about coming out flat after a bye, especially with a rookie QB and the up and down games they've played the last few games.
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Until I see some real quality consistency from EJ, and this offense, I'll not even begin to predict wins - even against the likes of Atlanta, Jacksonville, or Tampa. We should have destroyed the Steelers - it was a "good matchup" for us, and we got smoked. Now, I believe our team has quality talent across the board, and is good enough, and in some areas exceptional, that IF EJ plays a good game, then I think we can play with anyone. Its just that EJ has to stop his Jeckyll and Hyde routine.
He's a rookie. This is what rookies do. Ups and downs. Especially considering it was his first start back after missing 4 weeks, it was to be expected.
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To a man, the Bills have a better team than the Pats...except for QB and HC.
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So far we are 1 for 1 and BAL has an early lead on PIT. So far so good.
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The game will be televised in Albany! Things just got awesome for me.
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I think 4 of these 7 are likely. 1 is possible. 2 are impossible.
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I so much want to let myself think playoffs but this happens like every year. There's a point around now where, if we win out, we can make it! But there are a lot of teams in the same boat and we have three problems: 1- this team hasn't learned how to win on the road yet 2- the rookie QB and team itself is very inconsistent and 3- the NFC seams vastly superior to the AFC making the Falcons and Bucs tougher opponents than I think their records indicate. Really, if we win 3 of 5 it will be encouraging. I suppose anything is possible and if we can win the next two it will ger real interesting.
Yes, a lot of teams can get in if they win out. But only one has the easiest remaining schedule in the NFL based on opponents' winning pct and that's the Bills. That's the reason why the optimism is at least somewhat rooted in reality this year.
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The early line is Bills -3.5
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Every game is huge. They can and should win the next 4 games.
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The remaining schedule is not that easy for bad team. It is still an easy schedule for a good team. I guess we will find out which one the Bills are soon enough.
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We have a very enjoyable "playoff possibilities" thread where it's okay unabashedly dream that the Bills will make the playoffs. I've posted in it several times.
But I also wanted a refuge for those who see this as a rebuilding year only for the Bills and are not that caught up in playoff possibilties.
For me, it depends on the day, but after that Brady performance last night I feel we are a few years away (at least) from the AFC East being anyone else's universe than the Patriots.
From the beginning of the year, I said 8-8 would be a triumph for this Bills team and leave them in pretty good shape to contend for a playoff spot next year. We do have a rookie QB and rookie HC after all.
Now I see 8-8 and doable, but 7-9 more likely. Considering that the Bills were 1-4 in games not started and finished by EJ Manuel, I think 7-9 is a sign of good things to come, as they would finish 6-5 in games EJ did play the whole game.
I want to see EJ continue to develop as a QB and the team learn how to win close games more frequently. I look at the Panthers team as a model for what we can be in a couple years. I'm not saying EJ will be as good as Cam, but I think you can see some similarities in the types of games the teams play.
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No, he's not. And at this rate it appears he will never be.
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The broncos have 17 points and Manning has thrown for 14 yards and no TDs. Of course.
Fumble number 4 for the Pats, but they recover this one.
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"If the clock never hits zero, we never lose! The perfect plan!'
[closed]I apologize for being delusional
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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I admit it. I thought this year was different. I thought that this team was about to turn the corner and be a contender next year or the year after. I thought this team was markedly better than the last few years but that it just wasn't showing up in their record yet because of injuries or inexperience or an unfair schedule or just plain old bad luck, etc.
But now as I look back on the 12 games played I realize it's the same thing it always is. A few good wins splashed in with many more losses. Several "almost pulled that one out" and a few "every team has a few games like this".
But the net result of all of that is the Bills are a bad football team. The locker room is teeming with losers like Stevie Johnson and Scott Chandler who don't have a clutch bone in their bodies. And losers play loser football. That's just what the Bills are doing yet again this year.
I don't see where the improvement can come from. They were healthy yesterday and playing a terrible team. They actually played a decent game! And still lost. Losers lose. Maybe it's just that simple and we were delusional to make it more complex than that, to fool ourselves into thinking that things were just about to change. Any day now...
They clearly need to overhaul the whole roster. 1 or 2 pieces isn't the difference between a loser and a winner, unless those pieces are HC or QB. And i don't think those pieces should change next year. But they won't overhaul anything. They will slightly tinker with failure yet again and the result will predictably be more failure. Getting almost boring. It's more fun to be delusional but I just can't lie to myself anymore.