The Bunk

Tom Brady says hey. This whole "California QB's" thing is so absurd. I don't care if the guy is from mars, if he can play he can play.

I doubt it. Do you think if Steve Spurrier got the Colts HC job he wouldn't have drafted Peyton Manning because he found ways to beat him in college?

lol exactly. how much "fire" was smith supposed to show in an interview? should he have been screaming and tearing his shirt off?

People keep saying next years QB's are vastly superior to this years...Can anybody tell me who exactly looks can't miss not named Bridgewater? Manziel? I've read that a lot of scouts say his arm talent is mediocre and wonder if he'll be able to get away with the running around he does in the NFL. He's not exactly built to take a pounding. Who else? Logan Thomas? Lots of tools but was very mediocre this year. AJ McCarron? Is he a no brainer franchise passer? I dont know. I just don't know if nexts years QB class *right now* looks head and shoulders above this one.

There is absolutely no logic in a bad team with lots of holes to invest upwards of 8M a year on a freaking offensive guard. End thread.

Sometimes to get the rats out you have to burn down the barn...

Played with Mario at NC State. Somebody get John McCargo on the phone ! We're getting the NC State band back together !

I was firmly against Chan, Jerry Sullivan nailed it when we hired him. Another kick of the can. Good guy, wanted him to succeed, but never thought it would work out. I hated his offense, dink and dunk passing game that played in a 10 yard box. Maybe his QB had something to do with how he called games as well, you can just do a lot more with a stud like Aaron Rodgers or Andrew Luck. Until we know and see our next QB there is now way to really predict how this offense will shake up. Who knows, we might spend a top 50 pick on a wideout. As for the topic of this thread, Buddy is a lame duck GM, i highly doubt Russ Brandon will truly let Nix call HIS shots knowing he isn't part of the long term plan. Any decision we make draft/FA wise isn't going to be 100% Buddy's, Brandon/Marrone will have their say as well.

My only concern if im Seattle is durability. But he certainly makes them fierce on paper.

how much more terrifying is it without mckelvin in there? and our top three cb's being gilmore, brooks, and rogers? lol. oh but wait, then we can draft ANOTHER CB early the draft and officially be spinning our tires. cmon now

Somebody call Chris Watson !

what people don't get is that i'll give you two andy levitre's and a pair of darrelle revis', and if your QB is Fitz you STILL arent making the playoffs. all of this freaking out over giving what will be our #2 CB 5M a season and letting a GUARD go in FA makes me laugh. it really does. Get a QB and none of this really matters. Shhhh all of these message board GM's dont like logic.

I don't care if he was benched last year, this is a new coaching staff and an entirely new system. Wanny was probably one of the worst DC's in all of the NFL and our new coaches seem to think he's better than he's shown. Have it your way, let him go and we'll burn ANOTHER top 2 round pick on a CB and we can start Ron Brooks. but hey, at least our interior linemen are real good lol. ooookay.

i don't know what's more laughable, the mcklevin hate or the levitre love.

You nailed it ! This is our new "overpaid" guy everybody has to hate.

7.5 M is all that's promised to Mckelvin. hardly a kings ransom. without him CB becomes a huge need and we'd probably have to spend one of our top 3 picks on that spot. this allows us to get help in several of our other need areas. hardly spending the wrong way.

And you think with ol' andy at guard we're in for a great season? hardly the case. the team clearly believes that there is no reason to overpay a guard when they are easily the most replaceable pieces on the offensive line. i'd rather hope the coaches are right in thinking they can polish mckelvin up and make him the corner his talent indicates he could be. new coaches, new system. players will look different doing different things. andy is a good player but he's hardly the difference between us making the playoffs or missing them. so because our past front offices have overpaid mediocre players(dockery) or grabbed guys at the end of their rope(villarial, tucker, anderson) guard are really hard to replace? maybe in buffalo. and btw, all those guards you listed won just as many games as the *great* andy levitre did here in buffalo.

My thinking is the coaches clearly believe in him. He's not a bad cover corner, he just really struggles to play the ball in the air. Often takes himself out of position. Pettine and company must think this is fixable, who are we to argue? I can also say this, we could have benched EVERY corner on this team last year if we wanted to, it certainly would have been warranted. Also, we're playing a new scheme, maybe mcKelvin is a better fit for this.

Well done Mike in Syracuse. Oddly enough my name is Mike and we share the same city. Kudos to us. As for the "decision" to take McKelvin over Andy. I'm okay with it. Guys who can cover are always more valued over interior linemen, who tend to be very replaceable.

No issues with this deal. McKelvin, while having poor ball skills is still a pretty solid cover corner. I think some better coaching will work wonders. Buffalo clearly believes his flaws are very coachable. He's also an elite return guy. Still young. I'm good with this.

Not to say Jimbo is a bad coach, i just don't think he ever fully extracted everything Manuel could give him. Always felt like he could have been more dynamic. Marrone is built for the NFL game, he's not a real nice pal like jauron or chan. He's a straight football guy. I'd rather than him developing a QB at the NFL level than Jimbo. I'd rather have Jimbo recruiting, though !

I'm with you in a way....I really, really don't see it with Nassib. And being an SU season ticket holder i saw him in person the past three years. Good kid, hard worker, has some talent...Just don't see it.

Most FSU fans have been saying for years that Jimbo Fisher never adjusted his system to Manuel's talents. Watch this years past game against Clemson and you see how he should have used him all along. This is a kid that should have been unleashed and instead he was in a conservative offense, and while productive, it never exploited Manuel's full potential or skill set. Not to say EJ isn't to blame himself, he made his fair share of poor decisions and missed his share of open receivers with a bad passes. Doesn't seem like he lacks intangibles. He's one of four QB's this draft that wouldn't cause me to want to throw my remote if we took him along with Barkley, Glennon, and Bray. Not sure if he'll still be there in the second, remember, all it takes is one team to think he's the real thing and he'll go in the first.

Don't think i'd totally be against an OT at 8. I hope Fisher doesn't end up like the last combine star offensive tackle Jason Smith.

Not a huge Geno Smith guy. To be honest all of these QB's turn me off. I'd rather take a flyer on Tyler Bray.