BillsFan130

Ok. I’m really not sure what you are getting at now. Sure there is a possibility he gets hurt. Injuries happen in the NFL. What does that have to do with anything we were discussing about him being a starter on the depth chart? Yes if he blows an ACL or has a severe injury he won’t be a starter. I can agree with that lol

Great post. There is definitely no doubt he is going to start unless he blows an ACL in the offseason. Don’t know how it’s even a discussion really.

You are completely mis understanding what I’m saying. . I never once said an average of 9 Mil per year is number one money. It usually is around #2 money though for the NFL . But ON the Bills he is their highest paid receiver on an annual average. That is also simply a fact. The Bills did not sign John Brown for that money, RELATIVE to the other Bills receivers to “have him compete for a starting job this year”. It is absolutely his job to lose the 1 or 2 spot on the team for this season. If Beane is paying him an average of 9 Mil to possibly be the 4th receiver, then that would be his worst contract given out to date.

His contract says it’s his job to lose. They are paying him descent money and are going to give him every opportunity to be the 1 or 2 receiver this year. He would really have to have a terrible camp/preseason to be dropped from the 1 or 2 role to start the year. And his main competition is Zay Jones.... So I think he’ll remain there lol I agree he’s not a 1 or 2 on a good team, but on the Bills he is definitely one of their better receivers and is getting paid like it relative to the other Bills receivers

I would personally say it’s his job to lose rather than him having to earn it. He would have to really crap the bed in camp

9 Mil per year with 12 Mil guaranteed in the contract to compete? I think Brown is definitely there to start as it would be very surprising if he didn’t get the 1 or 2 spot. IMO

Good point. I’m pretty sure half of Zays TDS and yards came on broken plays by Allen buying time. He simply does not create much separation and has a hard time winning 1 on 1 matchups.

That’s probably accurate as he did improve from year 1, but he still does not make many contested catches IMO

Lol..I am using common sense in saying Zay is 4 on the depth chart to start the season. Do you really disagree with that?

I personally don’t see much/any potential in him at all. In 32 games he’s what, maybe had 3 good games in his career? There is a reason Zay is going to be dropped on the depth chart to start the season. It’s because he wasn’t good enough the last 2 years. He got demoted. He now has to EARN his job back as a top 3 WR on the team. The bills gave him all the opportunity in the world the first 2 seasons to produce and the guy didn’t get it done consistently. Pretty hard to argue that.

My point with the Justin Hunter comment was that just because someone has a respectable amount of TDS in a year, it really doesn’t mean too much. I don’t think it’s silly to have an educated opinion/prediction on what Zay will do next season after watching him and observing him for 32 games. Does that mean he is going to suck again? Not necessarily. But he has yet to show me he can consistently create separation and catch the ball effectively after 2 full seasons.

Why should it be a benchmark though? Pretty sure Justin hunter a few years back had 5 plus touchdowns and that doesn’t make him a top 3 WR. Zay is also not a W2 receiver. The bills upgraded at the position smartly. At best he is 4 at the depth chart behind brown, Beasley and foster

I don’t think there was necessarily a comparison. Was just saying from a Bills fan perspective who watches Zay Jones every game, 7 TDS does not tell the full story. We are strictly critiquing Zay as we are Bills fans and watch him closely and we are not comparing him to anyone.

It was actually a very true and fair analysis

About 3 posts above this there is a great breakdown by Alpha on Zays 7 touchdowns

Haha so you are making fun of people for defending Tyrod but you are doing the same thing for Zay Jones?

Fair points and I agree with all of what you said

Jones just doesn’t pass the eye test for me. He doesn’t have 1 skill that tells me he is going to be a good WR one day.

I legit think some people actually think Jones is descent though. Which is crazy

I don’t understand how people can still defend Zay Jones. Call a spade a spade. He has been a major disappointment so far in his career. Is he a bust yet? No but he absolutely needs to take a huge step this year

1 and 2 will be brown and foster Slot will be beasley. How will he not be pushed down on the depth chart from last year?

We are hard on him because he has a hard time catching the ball, he cant consistently get open, and he lacks game breaking skills. Jones got demoted on the depth chart this year with the additions of Beasley and Brown, and possibly even duke Williams. Make no mistake about that.

1 PM games are the best lol. Would much rather 1PM football rather than playing at 430 and a bunch of night games

Fair point. But just seems weird we now have McCoy, Gore, Yeldon AND this new kid now. They must be trying to move shady cause the math don’t add up

Which begs the question, why did the Bills sign him then?