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  1. 3 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

     

    I think there may not be reps in practice to train 2 holders.

     

    I believe it used to be in fashion to have the BU QB hold, for just the advantage you mention of needing to defend against the fake.

     

    I know in Dallas, Romo used to be the FG holder.  Then when he was the starting QB, there was an incident where he didn't get the ball set properly, the Cowboys missed a FG and lost in the playoffs.  He never held again.   (This was all on A Football Life)

     

    I think that and similar instances are why backup QB as Holder has gone out of fashion.  It's all great while the backup is warming the bench, but if he plays, then it's an issue both in practice and potentially if he's gassed or shaken up in the game and then needs to go hold.

     

    Since the NFL is cyclical and copycat, perhaps it will come back in fashion.

     

     

    I completely agree a QB isn't likely to be the main PK holder. Given the new practice time limits, it doesn't make sense. But if BADO is right, and Case has holding experience, then he would make an ideal emergency holder. I'd expect he'll be active on gameday. 

  2. 5 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

    The guess here is that they were beaten to the punch on Stout.  

     

    Well, if you mean the Bill had a higher grade on Stout than Arazia, you are probably right. But I don't believe the Bills had a 4th round grade on ANY punter. But I'm not sure I'd refer to that as "beaten to the punch".  Maybe if Stout had gone late in the 5th? 

     

     

  3. 5 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

    Well, I get this.   But was Bojo a subpar athlete?   Not committed enough?

     

    I'm a decent athlete, but I'm not so sure I could learn to do it at an NFL level.   

     

    All I'm really saying is that it isn't a given. 

     

    I think you are correct. First, note Beane refers to Haack as an ELITE  holder. 

     

    The idea that holding is so easy anyone can do it may be true, if you aren't concerned about him being excellent. Yes probably most athletes can be OK at it. I don't think that's what this team is looking for.

     

    However, given Araiza's apparent commitment to learning,  I believe he will be fine and can approach excellent status and perhaps ELITE down the road.

     

    But there's always the slight possibility he cannot.  IMO that's fair to discuss.  Contingencies are always good fodder for discussion 

  4. 6 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

    They have been base nickel, but there is speculation they are going to evolve and start playing 3 LBs more often 

     

    My WAG is they want the flexibility depending on the opponent. Maybe they didn't feel they could pull it off at times last year but  can this year.  However I don't expect any major change in their typical base set.

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  5. 10 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said:

     

    Your first point is interesting in that because of program status, there are college WR1s who fly under the radar every year. We get all turned around by the testing talents of 2nd and 3rd WRs from Alabama when there are these WR1s from lesser programs who produce and test reasonably well but just get undervalued. Gabriel Davis was a stud for UCF, and Khalil Shakir was a stud for BSU. There is great potential in them if they are committed to their crafts (and they escape injury). 

     

    Totally disagree that McKenzie is the guy on the bubble, though. That's weird. 

     

     

    Me too. I don't get that at all. Wouldn't Crowder be more likely to be cut?  I actually don't think either of those guys are going anywhere, though.

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  6. 2 hours ago, billybrew1 said:

    LOL, our whole offense, the K-Gun, should have been called the T-Gun because Jim Kelly had one big read. If it was a run defense, he’d throw to to the Thurmanator, if it was a pass D, he’d hand it off to Thurman. This is absolutely 100% true. Of course it was more complicated than that re: the other receivers….but that was the gist of the K-gun. That’s why we were so unstoppable.

    It looks like we will be unstoppable again even though we were already unstoppable….LOL, we have Josh Allen!

    Though the two of them will make us even more unstoppable. Both Cook and Shakir.

    I think we might have a role forBernard on our defense as well. He is a talented blitzer and we definitely have to do something the next time we play Mahomes in the playoffs….

     

     

    You do know the K in K-gun was not for "Kelly", right?  Just checking.

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  7. 4 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

     

    Yeah I'm sure there's both an emergency holder and an  emergency long snapper on the Bills and every other team.  The one good thing about Araiza is he may be one of the top emergency kickers in the league as he's actually done it a fair amount.   Was reading he actually started his college career as a place kicker, then moved to punting.

     

    Seems like he was a very good PK, too.

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  8. 3 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said:

    Anyone know what day this interview was from? I wanna go find the full length clip!

     

    It's the 2nd appearance in 2 or 3 mos, pretty cool. Pats gotta fill slots but there's no doubt he recognizes Beane has a cool chemistry with that shows vibe. You'll get a lot of candid insider info on the day in day out kinda stuff that takes place. Really cool hearing that kinda stuff.

     

    May 2. And the full show is embedded above. Twice, even 

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  9. 10 minutes ago, Cash said:

     

    Agreed - this is a marginal difference to be sure.  I'm just thtypicallyinking like a 4th down with something like 4 to 10 yards to go.  If we had Jordan Stout, maybe McD thinks we can pin them inside the 5 and goes conservative.

     

    One additional thought:  I know some of the HATERZ have criticized Araiza's kicks for being too much the line drive variety.  That's probably a legitimate criticism.  But on the plus side, a line drive typically cuts through the wind better than a moonshot.  And we all know what a challenge the wind in Orchard Park can be.  Haack in particular seemed to really struggle.  Seems like there were at least half a dozen punts last year that looked good off his foot, but then just hung up in the air and went nowhere.

     

    Excellent point. Agreed

  10. Just now, SirAndrew said:

    I think it depends how confident Beane and McDermott are in their system. We all know he’s a crucial part of this defense, but I’m not sure how much they’re willing or able to give him. I don’t see Poyer going anywhere, but I wouldn’t eliminate the possibility if negotiations turn ugly. 

     

    My comment was in response to a remark made about Edmunds, not Poyer.

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  11. 4 hours ago, somnus00 said:

    Seeing Kaiir pull out his notebook of his own negative plays so he knows what he needs to work on was super impressive. That screams "process" to me.

     

    Not having the interviews is a big part of what throws off mock drafts and draft pundits, I think. 

     

     

    Agree. Plus do many/any prognosticators have the info the teams get from the players' coaches (college and HS), teammates, etc. That stuff (along with a detailed interview) means so much more than things like Wonderlick scores,  which seem to get eo much attention.  Thankfully this year, they were much less discussed this year. At least that's my impression 

  12. 4 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

    Overall good write up, have seen two 2023 mock drafts and both have the Bills picking #32.  Kind of scary.  Trying to recall in the early 90's were they ever the pre-season favorite to win the SB??

     

    Only comment I will add is assuming Aariza wins the punting job which is highly likely, he will be holding for Bass.  No one else will be trained to do it, very unlikely.  We could be fine with him doing it, will see.  Besides if you're going to train someone, then it may as well be Araiza.  You'd think with him having kicked himself, he'd be very understanding of the need for precision WRT holding.

     

     

    Agree for the most part.  Even if Araiza is a great holder,  I'm guessing they will train someone to be an emergency holder, just in case. But that guy isn't likely to get many reps in practice 

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  13. 1 hour ago, Cash said:

     

    I think the Bills probably had Araiza no higher than 2nd on their Punter Big Board.  (Which I'll assume is an actual physical board at 1BD until proven otherwise.)  The guy the Ravens drafted has almost as big of a leg as Araiza, but looks to be much better at hangtime and directional kicking.  Fair enough.  But there's two plusses for Araiza from my perspective:

     

    1.) By the time we get to midfield, we should be going for it on 4th down anyway.  So having a punter who's a little shaky at the coffin corner will only encourage McDermott to trust the offense.  This is a good thing.

     

    2.) As The Dean mentioned, he likes to hit!  I don't think him making tackles is particularly going to help our punt coverage, but our team thrives on emotion.  Araiza making a big hit on a punt (or kickoff) could be the type of thing that gets the defense fired up, and they usually play better when they're fired up.

     

     

    On point, #2, yes, the Bills are PROBABLY going for it, depending on down, distance, score and other possible variables.  4th and 25, after a couple penalties?  Dunno about you, but I'm punting.  And obviously you want a punter that can place the ball inside the 10 or 15, at least.  I know that is an extreme example, but there are situations where punting at midfield makes sense, no matter how much confidence you have in your offense. And I think Araiza will be fine, as he begins to work on that. 

     

    So I agree this probably won't change McDermott's strategy much, but I also don't think having a punter that excels in placing it in the "coffin corner" would impact the decision making much, either. 

  14. 11 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

    The other 2 punters have experience being holders for their field goal kickers. Matt has no experience holding. I think that is the reason he wasn't drafted earlier. It's a pretty big deal if he isn't a solid holder. Hopefully, he can do it well. 

     

    It also has to do with hang time and the ability to consistently place the ball inside the 10. 

     

    https://billswire.usatoday.com/2022/05/03/2022-nfl-draft-bills-punter-matt-araiza-motivated-after-slide/

     

    With that said, I think the Bills picked a winner here. I love that he likes to hit. I hope he doesn't have to do it much in the NFL but love the mindset. 

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