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good catch you are right on that one.
This is from CBSsportsline.com:
03/16/2010 - According to NFL Network's Mike Mayock, "just about everyone in attendance" at Georgia Tech's Pro Day believed Derrick Morgan will be a 4-3 defensive end in the NFL -- not a 3-4 outside linebacker. Morgan struggled badly when asked to drop and change direction at the Combine. He was a bit better at Monday's Pro Day, but at 6'3/266 Morgan's best fit appears to be as a base, 4-3 right or left defensive end. Mayock expects Morgan to be drafted somewhere in the top 10-20, though it appears we can cross most 3-4 clubs off the list of potential landing spots. - USA TODAY football
Don't really know where he fits into the Bills D after that nugget.
For an alternate view from Sporting News:
"Morgan is a junior who came out early for the 2010 draft and should immediately contribute as a rookie. He is athletic with a rare combination of foot quickness, explosiveness, playing speed, size, and playing strength. He could be effective as a defensive end in a 4-3 or 3-4 scheme or as a rush linebacker in a 3-4 defense. Pro Bowl aspirations will not be far off."
But according to them, he won't be an option anyways, as they have him going #2 overall to Detroit.
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I think theres a 75 percent chance the Bill's take Skelton or Snead in the 3rd.
Hahahahahaha I mock you. I mock you mercilessly. Consider yourself mocked. Seriously, you spew this idiocy of taking Skelton or Snead in the 3rd, and have the nerve to call others "knowledgeless"? WOW! So with picks like Spiller at #9 and Skelton or Snead with our 3rd round pick, I can imagine who you have in mind for our 2nd rounder. Or did you trade that away? I did a disservice to Donahoe by including you in his crowd. Go play Madden. Really guy, really?!
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I am appauled by some of the people on this board. Have you guys learned nothing from watching the Bills this past year. WEAPONS MEAN NOTHING IF YOU CANT GET THEM THE BALL. You cant run effectivly without a strong line, you cant throw without a strong line and decent QB. We have neither of those! Last I checked we had a 1,000yrd runner on the roster that we are happy with and we also have a pretty darn good backup (even if he is a scum off the field). DRAFT LINE OR QB.Spiller is a luxury pick the Bills cannot afford to make. If he is so good, teams will be offering us a King's ransom for that pick so they can get him.we've got a dozen holes on this team, none of them are at RBThe best player on the team last season was Fred Jackson why would the Bills waste another 1st round pick on a RB. How many playoff games did Marshawn Lynch & Willis MaGahee got the Bills. The Bills need a QB, LT, NT not a RB early in the draft
You folks can consult with Buddy anytime.
Those that want Spiller can join Donahoe on how to build a football team. Where's he currently employed again? -
The Bills are at 9, what do you do:
1. Try to trade down and how far down
2. Draft DE/OLB - Derrick Morgan
3. Draft OT - Trent Williams
Please let me know what you think
I'd be thrilled with either Williams or Morgan.
The best part of this scenario is that is wont happen. The draft never pans out the way we think it will.The top of the draft class usually does pan out the way we think it will though, just maybe in a different order. This years class has 7 players as the cream before the drop off, and those 7 players will almost certainly go 1 through 7.
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give the rope to him free , i am rooting for mcclain, but i exspect a trade down. and get a nose tackle named williams
Let me spare you a little despair - they're not picking McLain.
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ok, thanks, got it. If anyone else is interested, it was a mention in his Andra Davis article
As mentioned, anyone who read the source article can see that this thread was started under false pretenses. How you say as a matter of fact that "Mitchell to the outside" after reading that article, I'll never know. Then again, a poster on a Bills message board named "move them to LA" is probably just trollin'.
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I wanted to get some feedback on what people thought if all the top tackles in this years draft (Okung, Davis, Bulaga, Williams) were gone by the time the Bills pick. Do you go for Bruce Campbell? I hear a bit of a reach at 9? A lot of mock drafts have us taking Dan Williams NT or Jimmy Clausen QB. From the information that I have read, Williams might be a reach at 9 and I think Jimmy Clausen is really overrated and already heard some analysts compare him to J.P. Losman (YIKES!!!).
So who do we pick? At this point do we just take the best player on the board? I have a feeling the Bills could even go after a guy like C.J. Spiller if he is still there. I know we have solid depth at the position but he may be too special of a player to pass up. Draft Analysts are comparing him to Chris Johnson and everyone thought the Titans were off by picking him in the first round, he is the best player from that draft so far. I could also see Gailey going after one of his old Georgia Tech players like Derrick Morgan or Demaryius Thomas.
I just wanted to throw it out there and get some ideas from people. GO BILLS!!!
Derrick Morgan.
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well hold on there cowboy, if we took spiller and got a 3rd or better for lynch it wouldnt be so bad now would it?
Uhh, yes it would. Have you learned nothing from the past mistakes? Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it I guess. That won't be the case with Nix, and why I'm glad armchair GM's aren't really running the show.
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ya, that's what I thought too, but the newest MG chat is from 3/12 and there's no mention of mitchell playing olb. maybe it's a chat from today and they haven't uploaded to their site.
Nope. See two posts up.
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I'm guessing somebody at KFFL was monitoring a Buffalo News chat session.
Buff News article linked on the front page.
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Does anyone have the source? I looked a while and couldn't find it.
This is all it says. Quite a leap to start a thread which states as a matter of fact Mitchell to the outside.
"Davis joins an inside linebacking corps that includes Paul Posluszny and Kawika Mitchell. When the Bills switched to the 3-4, it was presumed Mitchell would move from his weak-side outside role in the 4-3 to the inside. The three could battle it out for two starting positions. It's also possible Mitchell still could play on the outside."
http://www.buffalonews.com/2010/03/16/9898...with-davis.html
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The Ravens were trying to re-sign him.
"Even the Baltimore Ravens, the team that drafted him in 2004, didn't make much of an effort to bring him back."
But that's not really the point being discussed.
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Unless you are an NFL scout, news reporter, family member, or part of the program, if you watch State of the Franchise on NFL Network you are a loser.
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Not to be contrary to the views above because I do NOT think that Buffalo is a pariah among free agents but.....out comes the news that Edwards failed physicals in Denver and Seattle. So it's not really accurate to say that Edwards CHOSE Buffalo over those two cities.Well, he's hear now. And no one wanted to go to Green Bay before Reggie White. If we start winning, players will come. For god's sake, little Manning turned down beautiful San Diego because they were a mess at the time he was drafted.
Yes, he is here now, but I'm not sure what your point is, considering the post you quoted. All BillnutinHouston was pointing out in response to the OP is that Edwards did not in fact CHOOSE Buffalo, they chose him because he failed the physicals of the 2 other teams he visited, and his former team puller their offer. He essentially had no other options. Kinda shoots down the OP's notion that folks have been proven flat out wrong. He brought up some very poor examples to try to make his case.
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I'd like to see this. NTs are difficult to find. Get your big men early. Dan Williams is probably the best NT in the draft. At least that's the consensus of those who ostensibly know...
Interesting that the Sporting News has Williams as the #10 rated DT. That's not #10 overall best player in the draft, but 10th rated at his position. Guess they're not very high on him.
To whomever wants to discuss this: I was looking at a draft guide by the sporting News and it critiqued all the players chacteristics. I was amazed that a player named Derrick Morgan DE Georgia Tech received a final grade of 8.6 and in every category this player was given the most positive comments one could receive. He didn't receive any negative comments or noted weaknesses which is rare in their analyzation of a player! They mentioned that he would be an excellent rush linebacker in a 3-4 defense. I know DE isn't our highest priority in contrast to OLT, QB, & DT/NT, but I wasso impressed by what I read about him I underlined a good deal and became really interested in him as a player. He will
likely go high in the draft, but if he were there at pick #9 I am wondering if he is a player that could help our team? I also wondered if the Bill's coaching staff has interest him seeing that many of the coaches and assistants were part of Georgia
Tech??? I've never watched more than a few minutes of any of there games and am not too familiar otherwise with this player.
I think you're on to something here
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Unless you are an NFL scout, news reporter, family member, or part of the college teams' program, if you attend a so-called pro day you are a loser.
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It's dated, but in case anyone's interested here's the draft write-up of him from Nolan Nawrocki's PFW Draft Guide in 2004:
Positives:
Good initial quickness. Flashes burst to penetrate. Has a thick frame and good lower-body strength. Can play with leverage and hold the point. Wide frame to control gaps. Strong hands to shred. Keeps head up to locate ball. Good short-area quickness. Competitive, durable and tough. Has agility, balance, and can change direction. Good football intelligence and feel for blocking schemes. Can collapse the pocket with a bull rush. Flashes quick hands in pass rush. Good effort and motor. Excellent character. Not vocal, leads by example. Production improved each year. Got bigger and stronger each year.
Negatives:
Tends to play high and loses leverage. Not sudden or explosive. Not a consistently dominant player. Good, not great, upper-body strength. Steady but not overpowering. Needs to further develop as a pass rusher. Flashes quick hands but doesn't put two moves together consistently.
Summary:
Not a big-time, flashy guy but his combination of size, strength, and quickness definitely catch your attention. May never be a premier player with big numbers, but his lower-body strength, ability to control gaps and durability will take him off the board by the end of the second round.
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yes, hall of fame post.
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In this case, his reliability isn't really in question. He is simply reporting what someone else said. Nice follow up to clarify the comment, but the only credibility at stake here belongs to Adam S.I don't think his (Shefter) credibility is in question at all on this one. He (Dwan) has reached an agreement, but hasn't signed yet. If someone swoops in last minute and steals him (Dwan) away, his (Shefter) report was still accurate.That's why I wait until Warrow reports the deal as done before celebrating.
Oh I agree, I will wait for confirmation. But back to the point you were making about Shefters credibility being at stake here, I don't believe it is because no matter what happens, his original report remains accurate.
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Gotta love the guy that calls Schefter a clown, then calls it a done deal based on Schefter's story. No ****!
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In this case, his reliability isn't really in question. He is simply reporting what someone else said. Nice follow up to clarify the comment, but the only credibility at stake here belongs to Adam S.
I don't think his credibility is in question at all on this one. He has reached an agreement, but hasn't signed yet. If someone swoops in last minute and steals him away, his report was still accurate.
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Anyone else find it odd that none of the buffalo reporters are saying anything but the balt reporters seem to be reporting like crazy?
No respect JW, no respect!
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I doubt they go with McLain with the signing of Davis today.
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Why doesn't Dwan just tweet already?
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A little more info on Morgan.