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You saying that would like me saying to you when Allen was a rookie “a typical bust QB pick by your Bills. Same old Bills” point being you have no more clue how good Jones will be than anyone did when Allen was meh to bad year one. So please stop with your less than expert analysis of him.

I’ve seen the hits Allen has taken the last 6 weeks. Those are awful hits! Allen like so many others rely on his legs be good if he gets a bad wheel the wheels fall off his game. (Also was kind of being sarcastic to the quoted post) Farve — aka over rated only unbreakable record most INT Young — wasn’t the same after he lost his wheels.. hmm odd. Kelly — pocket passer never truly ran.. so terrible example for Allen. Look Allen keeps taking those hits instead of sliding his career will be significantly shorter. That’s not hope or brag that’s simple common sense, the more you get hit the more likely to get hurt.. why do you think RB careers are normally short? Dude, I literally said the Bills O was unstoppable. I’m sorry if adding the fact that even when Allen made mistakes they slipped right threw the Pats D hands hurt your feelings.. but it was also true. Mind you the fact you can’t read sarcasm is scary. I was being sarcastic because the post I quoted thought Allen went on another level. He didn’t! You will be good as long as Allen can be a threat with his legs as well as his arm. Once he becomes less mobile the Bills days on top are numbered., Unless he grows in pocket presence and accuracy under duress while in the pocket. (Now watch someone going find fault with stating this..)

Not always, last 2 years been pretty decent. (Dugger,Onwenu,Uche from 2020 and Jones,Baremore, Stevenson from this year)

Agalor is going to be cut, (that saves then 4 million I was told) and they will pay too dollar for one of the 2 top FA WR. I am thinking Allen Robinson. Meyers, Johnson, Brown and Phillips be back. White and Gunner possibly back as well. (On a 1 year deals) I think McCourty retires. I wouldn’t be shocked if they tried get Mathieu in FA. Someone WAY overpays for Jackson. (After last two games bye bye bye) They move up to draft top CB and they take at least 2 in the draft along with a LB. Late in the draft (5th and 6th round) they will get the o lineman. Still think Allen will have a long career? Lol (eye roll) No he wouldn’t. Lmao if you think that then you obviously have no clue how BB operates or how he believes things work. Fact is he wouldn’t trade that because Allen would SUCK with this team. This team has no superstar WR, and certainly none that will hide any inaccurate throw flaws he may have.. I think people are hilarious who believe a QB can be good anywhere. The truth is they are all system QBs and not all QBs work in all systems.

Did he do a mind ninja trick on Jackson to drop both INT? Was Allen watching the Pats v Indy game last week and do that ninja trick on him again their twice? Lol Allen was amazing, but the D allowed him to get away with whatever few mistakes he made.

Lol My poorly made point was I’d only take a QB I knew would thrive in the system as good or better than Jones. I don’t know how any other QB besides Brady,Jones, and Newton look for a full year in this system. 1 was great, 1 was beyond bad, and 1 showing promise. Now is he a SB winning QB? With BB and McDaniels coaching him possibly.. heck with just BB it’s a good chance. I wish Jones had just one year sitting behind Brady to watch and learn from the best at his style of play.

Well this is only year 2 of a rebuild for the Pats. They have a good TE and a couple decent WR (Bourne and Meyers) and what appears to be a decent young QB. What they are missing is that Superstar WR the Bills have (Diggs) to open things up. This game, that wasn’t the issue for the loss. The D just couldn’t stop the Bills O, and unless the GOAT was back there I doubt the Pats win. IMO the D holds the majority of the blame for this loss. I’m really upset at our top corner being a real dud the last two weeks.. (4 dropped INT and burnt badly for a TD by Diggs today)

Nope, that doesn’t mean I am envious. If I could swap QBs I’d take Brady back. I know for a damn fact no one stacking the box like this with him as our QB. Lol but why be envious? I watched the GOAT run things for 20 years, watched one year of horrid QB play and now see a Rookie that shows promise. im going enjoy watching the games and see what happens. Lol I was kidding I over estimated my team.. aren’t we all guilty of that at times?

We didn’t need the ‘85 bears D we just needed one that made the Bills punt 1 or 2 times. No team is going to win a game their D doesn’t make one punt happen.

The Bills were the better team today, plain and simple. I am glad my team never gave up and fought back into the game. (I swore because Jackson has dropped 4 INT in 2 weeks.. someone is going to overpay for him) My Pats are where I thought they be 10-11 win wildcard team. Agreed, I blame the D more because this team was built for them to win games and well they couldn’t stop anything Allen was doing today. (And as I pointed out our top CB had been dropping way way to many INT these last 2 weeks, 2 of the biggest games of the year.)

Comparing Jackson to Wallace is like me comparing Dugger to Tre White.. Jackson is our top CB and he dropped 2 easy INT today the first he got burned for a TD the very next play. point is Jackson is wanting Gilmore type money but unlike Gilmore seems to puke all over himself in big games. (He dropped 2 last week as well) So more of a “I am so angry with him I want to strangle him” than what if..

Preaching, I swore when Jackson dropped a game CHANGING INT in the fourth. we will disagree on what lost the game.. I’d say the D not forcing a punt was much more problematic than 1-10 on 3rd down especially when they converted on like 4 fourth downs.

Bills. Got gashed by Harris a lot this game. (Over 108 yards 3 TD’s and 5.7 yards a carry) It hurt not having Stevenson (the 2nd back) not saying it changes the outcome because the Pats D couldn’t stop Allen & Co. I agree to early tell if Jones be good , bad. Or great. I think for a rookie year where you put your team in a spot to tie or take the lead late in the fourth if your D makes one stop in every loss is pretty good for a rookie. (Fumble by Harris, missed FG, D unable stop Dac with 35 seconds, down by 8 to NO, 22-17 to Indy, and today 26-21.) My point is right now he doesn’t seem to poop himself when it’s pressure time in the fourth.

I predicted a shoot out as I didn’t expect either team stop the other. I was half right. They probably score 28 if Jackson doesn’t drop a dang easy INT.. so I wasn’t terribly far off, I also did the prediction before I knew Bourne would miss all week of practice and Agalor be gone and we wouldn’t have Stevenson.. I probably would have said 28 lol… (I kid I love my team so I over guessed)

Last I checked it took the entire O to be successful. That said the O did make it 26-21 with 7 minutes to go and the D still couldn’t find a way to stop the Bills. Again I am much more upset with the Pats D performance than the O’s. I missed large stretches of the game. (Busy with family) so I missed that play. Judon can be a dirty player when he gets frustrated.

I wanted to like your post but it is having an issue. Allen is good enough to win a SB or 2. I think the hardest part will be where Kelly and Co. had issues. In the SB against the Packers or Rams or even TB and Brady. This year is perfect for them to go..

I think being clutch is a lot more dynamic than someone throwing the ball 90 yards or being a better runner than a passer. I want my QB being smart and able to lead a comeback.. 80% of starting QBs can’t. (Baker mayfield, Newton, Wilson etc)

The one HUGE difference, IMO is BB will make him as good as he possibly can be and IMO BB can win a SB with him. Arm strength, I saw Brady’s arm get stronger after his first couple years.. I don’t expect a rifle arm but a decent arm possibly. Hey I could be wrong, but the Kid will get to the Playoffs more than likely this year and he will be made the best possible QB he can be with BB He will have a hard time with Mahomes around. Not saying he won’t but Mahomes is going dominate the AFC a lot of the time.

You could be right,, but he is only a rookie who has done everything the Pats have asked him. He didn’t lose todays game for the Pats that was the D that dropped at least 2 INT but worse we’re never able to get off the field.

Simple, he doesn’t panic when trailing and in every game has the Pats within a score or goes ahead in the fourth. He always has the team in a place to win in the 4th. Most QBs can’t say that.

I don’t know I think if the D actually stops the Bills on that last drive, or Jackson actually holds onto the ball he leads them for the go ahead TD.. that doesn’t mean they win but I think he would have.. but then again the D sucked for the Pats.. (and probably because Allen made them look that way)

I disagree with you there. He is a rookie who has to adapt after teams know what he likes to do. If he can adapt he will be fine. I was much more disappointed in the D than the O. Sorry not forcing at least one punt is unacceptable. (I literally yelled at the TV when Jackson dropped that INT thrown right to him with 7 minutes left. I had to apologize for teaching my 7 year old nephew a new bad word lol)

The Bills were just unstoppable today on O, and the couple times that Allen made a mistake it literally slipped threw the Pats D hands. (Jackson that big payday just went way down after your less than clutch performance today.) Today was all about the Bills O who never punted. That said this is where I expected things to be. Bills are the better team and the Pats are at least a good FA and Draft from truly being a challenger for the division and SB. Good win for your Bills today and the East is yours for at least one more year.

Taylor, before that back breaking 65 yard run, was 28 Carries for 105 yards an average of 3.75 yards a carry.. so basically I hope the Bills think like this and try run.. The Bills talent is at WR and QB not O line and RB.

Agnolor looks like he will play, Harry will be missed for his blocking.. Bourne is the one that will hurt if he can’t play. Mind you I wonder who else in Buffalo goes on the Covid list..