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It will be a great game, if it was in Jacksonville I would agree. I point to the AFC Championship game where Brady was hit like a pinyatta by the Broncos as an example. That game was first amazing and if it wasn't for a missed extra point it was heading into OT. I think the Broncos that year were on about the same level for D and IMO a lot better on O.

Rumor is BB wanted trade Brady in the off season for multiple picks and sign Jimmy G long term contract. Kraft wouldn't hear of it and told him No. im not sure how true that rumor is but I wouldn't be shocked if it i was true.

I can't speak for Tomlin coaching but I can tell you right now they will not let Fornette beat them. BB always takes out your best players and that's truly is their best.. make Bortles beat you and I don't think he can. Also I see a low scoring game with a pick by Bortles deciding it making it something like 17-14 as a final.

I was sad see him go, but glad they sent him to a place he had a chance to thrive and not the QB black hole known as the Browns..

I didn't say just any QB I said Blake "I suck" Bortles. He will collapse in a big game on the road, because BB and Tomlin will MAKE him beat them and I just don't think he can do it esp not twice in a row. My point INT is I see him throwing an untimely pick which either is returned for a TD or is so close even his D can't stop the O of NE or Pitt.

Of course it will hurt when we go back to the pa k again and aren't constantly good. I am hoping Kraft has us be like the Steelers though.. never awful for long. Let the Jets be the Browns of the East ? ? I was pointing out for Brady being so terrible he only lost 1 game and that was by a TD.

Ya we only faced the AFC East 4 times so far. And scoring D is the only stat that means anything to me as if they keep teams under 20 the Pats win. That said Birtles sucks, he is beyond bad and our secondary is pretty damn good it's our LBers who are weak right now. They are the typical Pats D bend but don't break. Which is what is needed with the lack of talent up front.

Lol and the combined record is 5-1 and let's not forget the competition they were facing.. Brady put up 27 points on of the best D this year. While Jimmy put up 29 on an average D at best.

He is also an UFA at the end of the year so for the scenario to work they need to sign and trade him. Also after the way he has performed there is no chance in hades they are letting him go.

I think TT is a better QB and he crapped himself on the very first drive in Buffalo against NE. And believe it or not they have the 6th best scorin D in the NFL so it happens a lot. And well Bortles is not Breese, Big Ben, or Rogers hell he isn't as good as TT IMO.

Did he really impede it though? They got all the texts they wanted anyways. As for what's on his phone, the man is a billionaire and well god only knows who he communicates with and what's on his phone. I think we can both agree the NFL is terrible keeping anything confidential. My work does as well, but I am not required by any law or rule hand them my phone. (And FYI the phones for the equipment guys were company phones why they got access to them.) ? if he was retired I wonder if Giselle let him. It the Panthers ?

With that D God yes!!! That Defense reminds me of the 2000 Ravens I think they are that good! Their only issue is a QB who when going into Pitt or NE will probably crap himself and cost them the game.

Your employer can not search you phone without your permission period and since corporate espionage is a crime the cops would need a search warrant to go threw your phone. So if the cops need a search warrant what gives the NFL a greater right to said phone? Also physically destroying your phone phone does not destroy the data on it thanks to the cloud, so there was no advantage to destroying said phone. As for smart? Brady is one of the greatest ABs ever, I have no idea how smart or dumb he is though. I also didn't know that about the date with the iPhone either. (Not that I want make my phone a brick ?) Speaking of dumb, how was it possible that the NFL didn't know about the ideal gas law BEFORE deflategate? You would think that if the pressure in the ball was so important they would know everything that can deflate or inflate the balls. More stupidity by by the NFL was using a lab with a reputation for getting results that their client WANTED. I mean of all the labs (literally thousands) you use the one that released results saying second hand smoke wasn't dangerous!! (Face palm) even more stupidity by the NFL and Roger Goodell was the sheer lying on the reason he upheld the suspension. Literally all the man had to say was "I saw no evidence to reduce the suspension" but no instead he says Brady refused to answer if him and the equipment guy discussed deflategate during their calls. The transcripts clearly show he said "yes we probably did, but it was mostly for prep for the SB" my point is the investigation like almost every NFL Investigation was a hack job where they went in with a presumption of guilt and had no desire find the truth thus messed it up. Even if they were right (and I think the equipment guys did something) they did such a poor job of investigating it and allowed a lie to remain out in the public for months without correcting it. (That all the balls were 2 psi low, which was false all were like .01 to .03 except for the one ball the colts INT which is tainted evidence at best.) like i said poorly done and we we will never agree because they messed it up so badly there is enough holes drive a 16 wheeler through it. Which is what I think they wanted.. the Pats remain the evil empire that all hate but will watch just to cheer against them and Pats fan stay rabid loyal and remain loyal subjects if the empire ?

They at least faced Brady. I mean Farve went 1-1 against Cassell. Why I have a hard time having him on the list. At least fitz and Tyrod have gone against the best the Pats can offer.

You THINK he is, it is his own personal phone he can use it for target practice if he wanted. And just because you as THINK he did something doesn't make it fact. Hell he could have smashed it because there were text showing that his wife bossed him around like every other husband and he didn't want it leaked ?

the most common theory is that it's the heat and he doesn't like it. Which is funny hear about a southern CA guy ?

Simple fact it was his PERSONAL cell phone and the NFL had NO right to it and he NEVER had to turn it over PERIOD! Makes your point about smashing it moot and irrelevant. Mind you they still got texts etc off of it since we have this thing called the cloud.. I have proof of that.. see the leaked text to a friend in regards to Manning.

He is 7-9 and averaging just under an interception per game.. he does not play well in Miami.

Yup as a kid watched it a lot with my dad.think it was my fav because it's something we watched together all the time. (That and Midway, bridge to far, etc)

Nice way snip a small piece of someone comment. Your the type person takes things out of context and goes "see he said this" Damn read the entire thread before commenting! We actually been bantering back and forth and I was being a smart mouth with the Lombardi thing. Jesus people have their undies tight today.

I have not read the book, as by the time I get home I am tired beyond belief and well the book looked boring lol. Ernie Adams? Isn't he like a top talent evaluator?

One word.. SPYGATE. The other 31 teams felt the Pats got off to lightly and they wanted to make them pay. Goodell is nothing more than an attack dog for the owners, an over paid attack dog. I mean they suspended Elliot for 6 games on an allegation that was proven FALSE. The owners wanted to hurt the Pats, and all it did ? to quote my favorite movie as a kid "all they have done is awoken a sleeping Giant and filled him with a terrible resolve" And boy did they wake Brady up last year.

He Hates talking to the media and I bet you would enjoy it when he is breaking down a team with Zola on Thursday night. The man loves talking football and diagnosing things he sees. Although he does look like the emperor with his hood up.

Hard to tell since no one knows how Luck liked his footballs inflated to. We do know that Brady liked his on the low end at 12.5 psi. I believe Luck liked his at the high end, but don't quote me on that. I was talking about actual labs that ran the test, not the kid who did it as a science experiement. ? like I said we are not going change each others minds and at best we get annoyed. Life is to short be annoyed about anything football.

i wish I remembered all the situations for those games. I don't but I wonder how many were in September.