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8 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
Well cutting Murphy should have been a no brainer without the need for hindsight, he has been bad as a Bill. I said above that Jordan Phillips makes Tremaine Edmunds look like the master of gap discipline (tongue in cheek dig at Tremaine who I do like but he is never gonna be a great run plugger with his lane discipline). Well Trent Murphy makes Jordan Phillips look like he has a PHD in run defense. He is the worst run contain D end I have ever seen play meaningful snaps in Buffalo.
Personally I'd have cut Murphy and offered Shaq the contract they gave to Addison with a couple of extra mill guaranteed to get it done. It's different if our other starting DE was not the wrong side of 30 as well but he is. Just think that mistake leaves them needing to do a lot at the position in the next two drafts even after bringing in AJ last year.
I can’t argue any of that save the fact that the cap was/is up in the air next year due to Covid. It went down so far (guessing from many) that it was a concern.
For me, there are so many moving parts in these decisions that it’s crazy to think about. We discuss these in a vacuum, typically, around one player, but that effects EVERY other move.
Again, appreciate the perspective but I’m not even sure the reality of these decisions is able to be placed on this board without understanding the entire picture coupled with their upcoming moves which none of us have any knowledge of.
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Just now, hmsmystic said:
This doesn't make any sense to me- how were defenses less able to gel than offenses this offseason?
I thought the NFL and NFLPA did a remarkable job coming up with a plan and completing the season this year-- personally I thank them for it
As proof, I would recommend you look at NFL scoring through the first five weeks of the season: it was off the hook.
As for their Covid plan, I do not disagree...but what they’re doing should not be the gold standard moving forward, in my opinion, which is what the NFLPA wants (and I suspect the NFL does as well...tons of scoring).
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20 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:
I haven't seen that show. Frankly I swore off Star Wars after Jar Jar Binks.
Open your mind, my young padawan: I have purchased from you (and LOVE your art!). Mandalorian is GREAT!-
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25 minutes ago, HOUSE said:
I forgot they were gone
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1 minute ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:
I think it was smart letting them walk at what they were asking. But both guys are solid in their roles and it would have been great had they stayed at a lower price point.Shaq is basically a guy that sets the edge and will get you a handful of pressures and 3-4 sacks per year. He is good in that limited role— but not worth paying $30M or whatever the dolphins paid him.
As others have said, Phillips has been banged up, so hard to judge his play. As between Shaq and Phillips, I really wanted to keep Phillips. But the D line has done pretty well without him as the year as progressed.
Agreed...I would have loved to have had them both but what we have seen on the field proves Beane’s point: those guys were better here and the Bills are better off for saving the cap.
You said it more succinctly than it did, though! 😃
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Just now, nedboy7 said:
Some good old ex Bills bashing!! It had been a while.
Please...I’m not bashing them. I loved them both when they were here and look at my history: I pull for any young guy to get chances to a fault.2 minutes ago, ChevyVanMiller said:Expect much of the same rhetoric being sprouted around here when Beane lets Darryl Williams walk this off-season.
Not the same, in my opinion.1 minute ago, Domitian said:Isn't the forum for discussion of ideas like that?
Sure, if you provide some facts.
I’m not belittling you, just commented on your post.
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1 minute ago, Domitian said:
Neither were "right". Both players were likely a product of the system and their role in it. If they had come back, there's a good chance they'd have kept up their level of play in the same system. Neither were good enough to excel on their own outside of Buffalo. There's a good case to make that they should have been kept regardless of what they've done with other teams. That being said, the cap space can be used elsewhere.
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Just now, Don Otreply said:
Well, when your GM drafts the Mandalorian as your teams QB, he’s bound to be right more frequently that the fans..., just sayin
Go Bills!!!
I’m still holding on for finishing season two...and am taking a ton of heat from friends for it as they want to discuss! Been too wrapped up in Bills football! 🦬🏈-
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Just now, EasternOHBillsFan said:
Big Stuff was hurt for a lot of the season, so you can't just look at his stat line.
I really wish we had paid him because he was a lot like Dion... his attitude and playfulness was something that our D line fed off of.
I'd take Phillips and another DE over Addison, but that's just my opinion.
I won’t argue that other than saying if you knew they’d be where they are now would you still argue to pay him?I loved the guy but the results are in the puddin’, as they say. 😃
1 minute ago, papazoid said:neither was worth what they got.....beane wins
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There were many TBD GM’s who commented on Beane’s stupidity to let them both walk. Hmmmmmm.
Shaq was non-existent on the field in their last game (literally ZERO stats) and Phillips has a TOTAL of ten tackles, an assist and two sacks. https://www.nfl.com/players/jordan-phillips/stats/career
Looking at reality, who was right, Beane or the individuals who called these decisions poor? For me it is fairly clear that Beane was.
With that being said, the defenses around the NFL were hung out to dry this year with no time to gel. That is why I hate what the NFLPA arguing for not having any preseason work: the play on the field was, definitively, less than what we have come to expect from a defensive standpoint.
Anyway, I digress. Thoughts on letting those two go?
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37 minutes ago, Dukestreetking said:
For no particular reason, I flipped thru 200+ pages of the Fins game thread.
They were crying for Bills to take out starters (esp Allen) after the first freaking TD!
Post second TD, it became biblical begging: rending of clothing, sheep slaughtering, etc.
Enjoyable read actually.
“Please, please, pretty please play your PS guys!”
It’s a PROFESSIONAL football game. The ‘running up the score’ argument is weak.
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22 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:
Maybe true but I would rather not have OBD used as a "rehab" experiment especially during a possible Super Bowl run.
Isn't Chad Kelly the anti-thesis of what "the Process" is all about...discipline, teamwork, getting along? We have apparently a great culture and real chemistry, introducing a Chad Kelly could be about the dumbest move imaginable.
PS is not a rehab facility. Silly to say that to me.
If he can learn how to be a pro and then we can trade him we’re all the better for it...as is he.
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If this kid can get his life in order anywhere, it’s at OBD.
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Excellent review as always. What I found was most important was the fact that, other than QB, the Bills have depth. Sure, Barkley had a few deep throws but, overall, he missed quite a few passes.
Beane has assembled a very strong team, going far down the roster, that is ‘Championship Caliber’. Sure, anything can happen, but between now and then but this team is definitively ready for a run.
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13 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:
It was NFL Network during the 4 pm games.
Ummmm, I get they may have said it as well but they also said it during the TN game. -
They literally just said during the TN/Houston game that, “No one wants to play the Bills.”
Love it.
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So deeply sorry you’re going through this but incredibly thankful the Bills are providing one ‘bright light’ during an otherwise intensely unfortunate time.
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17 minutes ago, JY422 said:
I’ll argue with the notion that playing next week is better than a bye week.
these guys have been playing every week since the Cards game as if each were a playoff game.a one week rest and recovery week would be super clutch right now.
a bye is a guaranteed WIN.
3 consecutive wins in the NFL are much easier to come by than 4.
everything else was spot on.
Ok. I don’t agree, obviously, but all opinions welcome-
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KC and LAC tied going into the half. I truly believe we are peaking at the perfect time.
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Having lived through both, I’ll answer this way: Jim is the best Bills QB of the 90’s and Josh is the best from the 2020’s. I don’t feel a need to crown one or the other.
As has been mentioned, Jim with the current rules, in a passing league that doesn’t allow QB hits and all his stats would change. Same going backwards for Josh. How does one square that?
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Dawkins in his post game presser: “The Buffalo Bills play to kill.”
Best quote ever.
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Yeah, he’s either totally on or totally off. I’d prefer to use him only as depth.
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2 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:
The last 3/4 of this season I agree, but man he’s been mediocre the other 3.25 seasons here.
Ken Dorsey is the guy we cannot lose
I would dispute this.
This is Daboll’s O and he calls the plays, not KD. The reason it took so long to get going is Josh being young, lack of weapons, lack of line, etc.
He did what he could with what he had, player-wise.
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Jordan Phillips and Shaq Lawson
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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I am ok with your argument here. I will reiterate, however, that none of us know all of the moving parts...or the team ‘fit’. That is the soft stuff that none of us will ever know.