DefenseWins
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His current stats for this year are:
21 Receptions
184 yards
0 TD's
We have to be able to do better for our money... Cut him and sign someone in FA who is healthy and can contribute each week...
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Yet another example of a player coming from a family of former and current players... Several others come to mind both current and in the past. The Bills currently have one half of the Edmunds Brothers. Chad Beebe (Don Beebe's son) is a current player with the Vikings.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_family_relations_in_American_football
The list above is huge...
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I notice a lot of fans here are qualifying their remarks about Clay by saying that he is worth keeping around when/if healthy. From what has been said though is that he has a bad knee and at his age and with the wear and tear he has undergone he is "Never" going to be healthy again. Time to cut him after the season and save 4.5 million that can be used to sign his replacement in FA. Croom seems like a promising backup TE who can block and catch. Logan Thomas is also a cheap alternative backup TE who can stay but a new #1 TE should be brought in. There should be several good TE's available in FA. Time to move on...
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The "kids" on this team should improve as the season goes along. Edmunds as I recall got off to a slow start too. but has improved from week to week. Teller looks like a player too now. The same should hold true for Allen. I've said it before and will keep saying it. You don't just set the league on fire in your rookie years. It takes time to adjust to the speed of the NFL. You're going up against the best of the best on a weekly basis. It's not the same as college football where you can dominate based on your physical skills alone. It simply takes time. Every rookie is different in how fast the game slows down for them. Making snap judgements on rookies is idiotic. Just sit back, relax and watch for improvement from week to week. This is a transitional season. With another good draft in 2019 and plenty of cap space this team is headed in the right direction. Just sit back everyone and chill!
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The real question is "Does anyone really care?"
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Obviously, the vast majority of QB's drafted in the later rounds do not make it in the NFL. Even most highly drafted QB's seldom become "Franchise QB's". How many backup QB's can you remember that turned out really well? Other than Brady who is the "outlier" of the bunch, who else comes to mind? As far as Tyrod is concerned, what has he really achieved? He may be a likeable guy but has he really been a successful NFL starting QB? For that matter, how many current NFL starting QB's are really any good?
A lot of college QB's as well as other positions can excel in college because they are not going up against "the best of the best" every week like they do in the NFL.
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I don't see the Bills finishing lower than LAR... I believe we'll get a top 4-5 pick most likely... I wouldn't mind trading down a few spots and picking up an extra 2nd rd pick... I wouldn't be shocked if they actually traded back/down a couple of times picking up a couple extra 2nd rd picks in the process while ending up drafting between #10-12... Those extra 2nd rd picks could help replenish the talent on this team...
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I know of a couple of guys who have had a long running wager on whether the Bills will win a Super Bowl or whether the Sabres will win a Stanley Cup, first. Kind of similar situation... They are both approaching 60 yrs old... I'm not convinced either one will ever live long enough to see either happen...
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For the record, I stated last week that the Patriots game was the game to bet $5000 on against the Bills...
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1 hour ago, Coach Tuesday said:
B.S.
This is no "process." There is no way that this level of offensive ineptitude was PLANNED.
Well, you are sorta right in the cases of Richie and Wood. He certainly couldn't have known that Richie would go wacko nor could he have planned Woods sudden need for a medical retirement. But make no mistake. A rebuild was always in the cards. I thought it would have happened the year before but the defense in particular jelled unusually fast thanks to the acquisitions of Hyde, Poyer and EJ Gaines and the drafting of a true shutdown corner in Tre White. I can't remember when we have ever had a better secondary.
I know people are upset about how putrid the Bills are this season but you have to give the front office a chance to rebuild the offense in the off season. The top 5 probable draft pick will help a lot. Not to mention the 90 million in cap space to attract FA's. I've watched this team since it's inception in the AFL. I've seen a lot worse...
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2 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:
Bills trade down in the first round and select :
OT Jonah Williams 6'5" 301 Alabama
"PROS: Size and strength are NFL-ready. Excellent footwork out of his stance, entering his pass set with no wasted movements or false steps. Adjusts his set points based on edge defender’s alignment. Patient in pass protection, waits for opponent to show his hands and then counters. Times up his strikes well to combat power. Explosive in his first step to build his house against wide nines. "
https://thedraftnetwork.com/2018/08/05/2019-nfl-draft-player-profile-jonah-williams/
CONS: Apparent lack of elite length will a point of discussion in NFL circles. At times can be a little too patient, and is susceptible to long arms keeping him from landing his hands. Range in his set points is a bit limited, elite speed/bend guys will really test his ability to get out deep in his sets. Wish he rocked pass rushers with his punch a bit more.
Not a true mauler in the run game. Needs to keep working to seal off defenders in zone, not allowing them to free up late in the rep. Might never be a great people mover. Can get out-reached at times, and may need to be a little quicker and more decisive to win first contact. Finishing/intensity is an area of his game that needs to improve.
-Jon Ledyard
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And then there is the "wonderkind" Sam Darnold who put up a 14/29 153yd 1TD 0Int performance this week. He has played all the games this year for the Jets. They, despite having had something in the neighborhood of 90 million to spend this prior offseason on FA have exactly 1 more victory than the Bills... Guess he sucks too... And let's not forget Tyrod who is riding the bench in Cleveland since after the third game of the season...
In an ideal world none of these rookie QB's would be starting yet. But trying to predict what kind of careers any of them will have at this point is simple lunacy.
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Let's remember that Mahomes had a year to sit on the bench and learn/adjust to the NFL. Would he have looked as good if this were HIS rookie season? And how bout waiting till the off season when Beane can start building a team around Josh Allen. Let's see what Josh can do with some semblance of a team around him.
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2 hours ago, simpleman said:
As no saint said, how selective do you have to be to include Brady in your figures.?
Mr. Irrelevant, Chad Kelly, was the 256 pick last year. Going back to 2000 is 17 years. 256 * 17 = 4352 selections + the yearly supplemental draft allocations. If we “arbitrarily” went back 17 years to make sure we included Brady, that would be .02 %. Even then we would have to “arbitrarily” decide to round all our figures to the 100th of a percent to account for Brady, rather than deal with whole percentages.
Brady was just an example... The "sample period" was players drafted between 2005 to 2014... So anyone drafted before or after would not be reflected in these "stats"... Of course you had to click the link and read through the article to find this information out...
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7 hours ago, simpleman said:
Exactly why would you trade one of your best players for a mid to late round pick? The odds of drafting a starter are less than 50/50 even in the best possible scenario. And given the historic incompetence of our current front office on evaluating offensive talent, it is downright suicide to have to fill the hole you would create.
Historic Success Chart
The numbers show us the following outline for finding consistent starters:
1st Round - OL (83%) LB (70%) TE (67%) DB (64%) QB (63%) WR (58%) RB (58%) DL (58%)
2nd Round - OL (70%) LB (55%) TE (50%) WR (49%) DB (46%) QB (27%) DL (26%) RB (25%)
3rd Round - OL (40%) TE (39%) LB (34%) DL (27%) WR (25%) DB (24%) QB (17%) RB (16%)
4th Round - DL (37%) TE (33%) OL (29%) LB (16%) WR(12%) DB (11%) RB (11%) QB (8%)
5th Round - TE (32%) DB (17%) WR (16%) OL (16%) DL (13%) RB (9%) LB (4%) QB (0%)
6th Round - TE (26%) OL (16%) DL (13%) WR (9%) DB (8%) RB (6%) LB (5%) QB (0%)
7th Round - DB (11%) OL (9%) QB (6%) WR (5%) DL (3%) LB (2%) RB (0%) TE (0%)
As I remember, Tom Brady was a 6th rd pick in the 2000 NFL draft. How can there then be 0% chance of drafting a "consistent starter" in the 6th rd?? By only going back to the last decade. Kinda selective though isn't it?
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Nobody ever thought that Beane would get a 3rd for Tyrod either as I recall...
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This is the "bet $5000.00 against the Bills" game...
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21 hours ago, fridge said:
It's not way too early. It's a little early. No need to be delusional and pretend that anything can happen. It's looking like a long shot for Allen and fans need to be honest about that.
5 games into his NFL career with a sheet OL and no WR's and you are writing Allen off. Talk about "Delusional"...
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7 hours ago, wppete said:
You’re right. I thought it was for a 2nd round pick. No way we trade out 1st round pick.
Now that the Raiders have three 1st round picks (currently #4, #10 and #17 as of now) AND
This weeks games:
Cardinals (1-6) vs 49ers (1-6)
Raiders (1-5) vs Colts (2-5)
Assuming that Bills (2-5) lose to the Pats as seems likely...
Bills could improve to a top 5 projected pick...
Would the Raiders cough up picks #10 (via Dallas)and #17 (via Bears) for the Bills #5 pick?? Both these picks would appear to probably be even lower later on in the season.
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36 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said:
Yup. Some people want change for the sake of change. They want scapegoating because it feels good right now.
Moving on from Hughes would make zero sense. He's a guy likely to be able to play at a high level for another two to three years and that's when if plans work out - far from a sure thing but it has to be what the Bills are working towards and expect - the team will need a guy like Hughes.
Benjamin has had two solid games in a row. No need to get rid of him especially if the return is low. If he's not a guy they want in the locker room, fair enough. But otherwise he's starting to play well, and with crappy QB play that's not a small thing.
Moving on from Shady would only make sense if you get back a real return and with the injury that's not likely now.
Savings for Clay against the cap would be insignificant. Haven't bothered looking much at the All-22 after the first game or two but last season Clay was spending a lot of time open and untargeted. Don't know if that's true now but probably. And he's finally cap-friendly and not too old.
It's time people accepted that it's not only the receivers killing the QBs here, that it may in fact be even more so the other way around.
Phila may be getting a bit desperate after losing to Carolina. Smallwood does not appear to be the answer at RB. Let's see what happens this week and perhaps next weekend...
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10 hours ago, BillsEnthusiast said:
Tre White
Poyer and Hyde
Dawkins
Edmunds
Milano
There's five
Why do Poyer and Hyde only count for one? I'd say there's 6...
Harrison Philips seems to be playing pretty well for a rookie too...
Hauschka seems to be a pretty decent kicker as well...
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The truth has always been that TT is a decent backup choice on a team with a starter running a similar type of offense and a pretty good defense to carry them. But he will never be worth 15 mill per season to any team.
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18 minutes ago, LittleJoeCartwright said:
For today’s grammar lesson, it’s ‘should’ve ‘ not ‘should of’. Should’ve is a contraction for should have.
I ‘m really starting to worry about the quality of education in this country.
Starting to? You're a bit late with your concern...
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Rosen is now just one more pick six from an NFL record!!
Matt Milano Leg Injury
in The Stadium Wall Archives
Posted · Edited by DefenseWins
mispelling
Every injury is of course serious. Especially when you are a professional athlete dependent on your body's health for your very income. But it would have been far, far worse to suffer an ACL injury especially at this point, so late in the season. And as pointed out already, the fibula is the "non-weight bearing" of the two leg bones. Could have been a whole lot worse.
The Bills have been pretty fortunate in avoiding some of these career ending injuries. Knock-on-wood that their luck continues in this regard in the future.