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  1. 8 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

     

    I didn’t say any of that.  I said there is no such thing as the myth of WRs breakout in year 3.  It’s statistically lower than years 1 or 2 but people keep stating this false fact that WRs most often break out in year 3 and it’s statistically been proven false multiple times.  

     

    They can breakout any year, but it keeps decreasing each year, not “increasing” the likelihood in year 3 like some claim.

     

    Another instructive case would be Andre Reed...

     

    https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/ReedAn00.htm

     

    Some  players DO get better with age...

     

     

  2. Very, very few players dominate as soon as they step on an NFL playing field - regardless of position played. There is a learning curve that ALL players go through. You are drafting a player for the long term. That is one reason coaches don't like to play rookies if at all possible. It simply takes time for a player to adjust to going up against the best of the best on a weekly basis. TE's also tend to be handicapped a bit because they usually excell at either blocking or pass catching but usually not both. Remember that in college an athlete can get by on natural ability because he is not going up against great opposition on a weekly basis. College results can be very misleading. If you draft an OT early with the intent to play him from day one he is gonna be playing all 3 downs for you every offensive series. That is not necessarily true of TE's. A lot also depends, as others have pointed out in this thread, on how many other offensive weapons are present on the roster as well. Eric Moulds and Bruce Smith were not all everything in their rookie seasons just to name a couple. I could name many, many more players who didn't shine straight away.

     

     

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  3. 18 minutes ago, Lurker said:

    I could see a Lucas Oil-type stadium ($700 million to build in 2008) fitting in very well in the Cobblestone District...

     

     

    Image result for how much did lucas oil stadium cost

     

    Problem is this is 2019 NOT 2008. Construction costs today are gonna vastly increase the cost of any new facility. Is there a ton of available parking for "tailgaters" that is not shown in this photo? 

     

    How bout the new Tottenham Stadium as a model?

     

    https://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/the-stadium/

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tottenham_Hotspur_Stadium

     

    But whatever look you want, you should plan on it costing upwards of $1.5 billion.

     

  4. 10 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

    I do not believe he's anything close to a franchise QB and I think that will become more evident as the season unfolds.

     

    A lot of the excuses made in support of him last year will not be available this year with much better OL, better WR targets, etc.

     

    PS:  I don't think anyone is questioning his heart, commitment, or even leadership skills.  But those things are not necessary to be a good QB in this league, and they are not nearly enough to overcome Allen's deficiencies at the position.

     

     

     

    Gotta disagree totally with this part of what you wrote. These things are absolutely necessary for long term success in the NFL. The NFL is a QB driven league. If you want to win consistently in the NFL, you need a QB with these attributes to lead your team. Granted he can't do it alone. But how many talented QB's have we seen with cannon arms who have failed over the years?

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  5. I think that the Bills will keep 6 WRs. And Jones will be one of those 6. You are always gonna have to deal with injuries. And the "rookie" will need time to develop. And of course he is still on his rookie contract. He'd have to have an awful training camp which I don't foresee happening. I also thought that he started coming on late last season. Hell, Eric Moulds was absolutely horrible his 1st few years and he turned out pretty well. Also, keep in mind that if ANY of the guys the Bills added in FA fail to perform, get seriously injured for a long stretch of the season Zay could prove to be an excellent insurance policy

  6. 8 minutes ago, Logic said:



    Wait....

    This NEW YORK JETS fan was articulate, optimistic, and complimentary of the Buffalo Bills.

    What the hell did I just watch?!

     

    This guy posts on YouTube under JetsCentral

     

    He not only praised the signing but also seems to think nice things about Josh Allen as well... He compares the Bills and Jets as similar up coming teams with many of the same needs...

     

     

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  7. If we were willing to swap 1st rd picks with Pittsburgh for AB, why not make a similar offer to Cinci for Green. Assuming at #9 only two QB's are off the board. With Green becoming a FA in 2020 anyway, how likely are they to wanna have to negotiate a new contract with Green when he is 31? This could be their chance to draft the successor to Dalton. Maybe swap 1st's with an extra 3rd to Cinci for Green and we renegotiate Green's contract now?

     

    https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cincinnati-bengals/a.j.-green-7719/market-value/

     

     

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  8. 2 minutes ago, Juice_32 said:

     

    Please list in alphabetical order receivers (must be diva/locker room cancers too) have been worth 17m per year past age 30. I’ll wait......no sour grapes here pard. I’m just genuinely glad they didn’t make this move. 

     

    Pay your QB, OL and pass rushers. You can’t sustain a team paying an aging WR 54 million. 

     

    Gotta disagree. In this instance, in particular since Allen is gonna be on his rookie deal all three of the years in question here, and keeping in mind that the cap has been going up by $10 million a year, and also keeping in mind the Bills current amount of spendable cap money that's available the Bills could have very well afforded a contract of this type to get what is arguably the best WR in the NFL.

     

    I'm not necessarily saying that I would have made that move but it is not that unthinkable. The Raiders certainly think so.

     

    2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

     

    Officially of course, no one can offer a revised contract until the league year opens next week.

     

    Unofficially, one perennial answer to "No way I'm going to (team)" is to "make an offer too good to refuse" and try to change the guy's mind.   Apparently the Bills were unwilling to play that game, and if what AB wanted was big guaranteed money, I can't fault them.

     

     

    I'm not faulting anyone either. I just don't know that we can assume that Beane even got the opportunity.

  9. 20 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

     

    I think the Bills may have offered a bit better trade compensation, but been 100% unwilling to offer Brown that much in the way of guarantees.

    I agree with you that offering a diva WR who has gone AWOL on his team big guaranteed bucks is not the Path of Wisdom towards building a team

     

    Just one question:

     

    Do we know whether the Bills even had the opportunity to offer Brown a revised contract? All I have heard is that Brown essentially said "No way I'm going to Buffalo" as soon as he had heard of the trade.

     

     

  10. 41 minutes ago, DCOrange said:

    I actually like Isabella quite a bit; I just think a comparison to AB is pretty wild lol.

     

    Isabella would be on my list for the second WR Buffalo takes in the draft (I want them to take at least 2). I prefer Stanley Morgan and Tyre Brady, both of whom can probably be had later in the draft, but I think Isabella is a pretty good option once we get to the 3rd round or so. 

     

    I'm not much of a college football fan. But if Stanley Morgan Jr is anything like his father, I'd be in favor of drafting him in one of the later rounds. (assuming the Patriots don't draft him before us) I always thought his father was a helluva player...

     

     

     

  11. There is also no guarantee that someone else doesn't draft a guy like Isabella before the Bills do... And I would like to see the Bills sign an experienced C in FA like Paradis or Morse as opposed to drafting one. I'd ideally like to get a guard like Saffold and an OT as well in FA. We'll just have to see how things shake out next week...

     

  12. I wouldn't mind drafting a guy like Isabella but if the Bills go out and sign a FA like Adam Humphries (who also returns punts) or Cole Beasley doesn't that sort of negate the idea of drafting Isabella too? Again, alot depends on who the Bills are able to sign as FA next week. The Bills are also rumored to have an interest in Frank Clark DE as well. I really think we need to watch and see what goes down in FA first before we can begin to formulate draft plans - NO?

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