DefenseWins
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Here's an interesting reaction from a NY Jet fan perspective...
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2 minutes ago, Bills2ref said:
With Funchess in Indi, anyone think that makes Buffalo a huge possibility for Tyrell Williams?
The Colts have plenty of cap $ left to spend... They also tendered one of their own WR (Chester Rogers)... Plenty of $ left to spend on Williams I'd say...
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If we were willing to swap 1st rd picks with Pittsburgh for AB, why not make a similar offer to Cinci for Green. Assuming at #9 only two QB's are off the board. With Green becoming a FA in 2020 anyway, how likely are they to wanna have to negotiate a new contract with Green when he is 31? This could be their chance to draft the successor to Dalton. Maybe swap 1st's with an extra 3rd to Cinci for Green and we renegotiate Green's contract now?
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cincinnati-bengals/a.j.-green-7719/market-value/
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Just now, Mr. WEO said:
So the claim made here over and over that Brown wouldn't come to Buffalo at any price is bogus.
Can you summarize for us non-paying people... Did Beane refuse to sweeten the contract?
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2 minutes ago, Juice_32 said:
Please list in alphabetical order receivers (must be diva/locker room cancers too) have been worth 17m per year past age 30. I’ll wait......no sour grapes here pard. I’m just genuinely glad they didn’t make this move.
Pay your QB, OL and pass rushers. You can’t sustain a team paying an aging WR 54 million.
Gotta disagree. In this instance, in particular since Allen is gonna be on his rookie deal all three of the years in question here, and keeping in mind that the cap has been going up by $10 million a year, and also keeping in mind the Bills current amount of spendable cap money that's available the Bills could have very well afforded a contract of this type to get what is arguably the best WR in the NFL.
I'm not necessarily saying that I would have made that move but it is not that unthinkable. The Raiders certainly think so.
2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:Officially of course, no one can offer a revised contract until the league year opens next week.
Unofficially, one perennial answer to "No way I'm going to (team)" is to "make an offer too good to refuse" and try to change the guy's mind. Apparently the Bills were unwilling to play that game, and if what AB wanted was big guaranteed money, I can't fault them.
I'm not faulting anyone either. I just don't know that we can assume that Beane even got the opportunity.
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20 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
I think the Bills may have offered a bit better trade compensation, but been 100% unwilling to offer Brown that much in the way of guarantees.
I agree with you that offering a diva WR who has gone AWOL on his team big guaranteed bucks is not the Path of Wisdom towards building a team
Just one question:
Do we know whether the Bills even had the opportunity to offer Brown a revised contract? All I have heard is that Brown essentially said "No way I'm going to Buffalo" as soon as he had heard of the trade.
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41 minutes ago, DCOrange said:
I actually like Isabella quite a bit; I just think a comparison to AB is pretty wild lol.
Isabella would be on my list for the second WR Buffalo takes in the draft (I want them to take at least 2). I prefer Stanley Morgan and Tyre Brady, both of whom can probably be had later in the draft, but I think Isabella is a pretty good option once we get to the 3rd round or so.
I'm not much of a college football fan. But if Stanley Morgan Jr is anything like his father, I'd be in favor of drafting him in one of the later rounds. (assuming the Patriots don't draft him before us) I always thought his father was a helluva player...
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There is also no guarantee that someone else doesn't draft a guy like Isabella before the Bills do... And I would like to see the Bills sign an experienced C in FA like Paradis or Morse as opposed to drafting one. I'd ideally like to get a guard like Saffold and an OT as well in FA. We'll just have to see how things shake out next week...
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I wouldn't mind drafting a guy like Isabella but if the Bills go out and sign a FA like Adam Humphries (who also returns punts) or Cole Beasley doesn't that sort of negate the idea of drafting Isabella too? Again, alot depends on who the Bills are able to sign as FA next week. The Bills are also rumored to have an interest in Frank Clark DE as well. I really think we need to watch and see what goes down in FA first before we can begin to formulate draft plans - NO?
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I don't want anybody that doesn't want to be here.
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1 minute ago, RyanC883 said:
my guess is that someone in the Steelers leaked this, thinking it would draw other teams (Green Bay, Oakland) to try to offer something stupid. In the end, it's likely Bean didn't want to pay AB more money and it got nixed somehow.
Green Bay isn't interested either per PFT....
Also, allegedly money was not the issue at all... AB didn't want to play here - period.
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26 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said:
He didn't report a done deal. I believe the word he used was "likely".
On twitter, "closing in on a deal." In a different tweet, "close to being done."
At 7:07 AM Josh Alpert in his PFT column reiterated that Rappaport was standing by his earlier reporting...
One of those responses came from PFT as a league source told us a deal is “not even close,” but Rapoport isn’t backing off the report. He told Mike Florio in a text that the deal is “going through” and posted something similar on Twitter a short time later.
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21 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:
Why? The deal was done. Bills and Steelers agreed on compensation.
The Player blew it up. You think Steelers are happy about that?
I'm pretty sure that Pittsburgh Mgt is furious about this. BUT Rappaport allegedly was still reporting the deal as done around 7am this morning (per Josh Alpert PFT) long after AB called it "Fake News"...
One of those responses came from PFT as a league source told us a deal is “not even close,” but Rapoport isn’t backing off the report. He told Mike Florio in a text that the deal is “going through” and posted something similar on Twitter a short time later.
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I just basically said the same thing in the AB thread. Seems like very half-a$$ed reporting to report a "done deal" and not confirm it with AB first. Who the hell were Rappaport's trusted sources on this?
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OK. AB didn't want to come here. It wasn't about the money. Got it. And that's his prerogative.
So why did Rappaport report the story when he did, the way he did? He claims to have had "multiple sources" indicating it was basically a "done deal". Did no one think to check with AB first? Rappaport's credibility here should take a real hit over this. Very lazy reporting it would seem...
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Maybe this is the end of bringing in former Carolina players...
I see Pittsburgh is on the list of the Bills 2019 road opponents... Should be an interesting game....
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So are we gonna wake up in the morning and hear that Leveon Bell is coming to Buffalo too?
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Here is what Peter King had to say about Rosen in today's Football Morning in America column...
I asked Hall of Fame quarterback Kurt Warner, who lives in Arizona and watched Rosen last year, what he thinks the value for Rosen is. “I would give a three for Josh,” Warner said. A third-round pick. Yikes. Saturday night, I asked a renowned NFL GM what he thought the value of Rosen in trade would. “Probably a three,” the GM said. “Not what the Cardinals would think his value is.”
Apparently, Rosen isn't particularly well thought of in NFL circles... Makes the idea of Arizona taking Murray #1 overall even more plausible...
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On 2/26/2019 at 7:20 AM, PIZ said:
Same hairdo as Wyatt Teller.
It's the "Game of Thrones" look!
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9 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said:
I don't think I missed anybody. 5 starting linemen out of 50 who were top ten picks. First round picks? Yeah there are more. But out of those top ten o lines, just five top ten picks.
You are missing one big point, and that is that the Bills have done a ***** job of doing anything for the last 15-20 years or so. That has absolutely nothing to do with the current regime. Sure this concept has not worked for us, but it has worked with pretty much every other good team in the league.
A lot of people want to go ahead and draft Jonah Williams in the top ten. He looked like garbage when playing against NFL level competition, and there are a whole bunch of questions if he can even stick at tackle. Making a pick like that is simply idiotic. It's a reach, and it's what gets GMs fired.
This team hasnt really bothered to draft many offensive linemen in the mid to late rounds. There are years in which they drafted no linemen at all. I like the thought process of the Teller and Dawkins picks. That's what I want to see more of. Not reaches in the first round.
Please tell me who all all of these amazing top ten picked offensive linemen are around the league. If you look at the playoff teams is year there are a few. Tyron Smith, Eric Fisher (largely considered a bust), Ronnie Stanley, Russel Okung (not his original team), Quentin Nelson, Lane Johnson. That's six guys who were drafted in the top ten.
If you want to look at top offenses in the NFL, KC had Fisher, Indy had Nelson, the Chargers had Okung, and the Falcons had Mathews and Mack. That's 5 guys. Those are the only top ten drafted offensive linemen who are starting on the top ten scoring offenses in the NFL in 2018. Fisher is considered a bust, and Okung and Mack are not with the teams who drafted them. What you do see is a ton of late first round picks, second round and third round picks, and UDFAs.
Joe Thomas really did a ton to help the Browns be winners. The Titans have a left tackle drafted eleventh and a right tackle drafted eight, and they still suck. And their best lineman is their left guard who went undrafted. It's about using resources wisely and building a team. There is not really a formula, but reaching in the top ten to fill a hole is the worst thing you can do.
This is not not a theory, it is a fact. There are so many busted top ten linemen in the NFL and it is a terrible place to reach for a guy to fill a hole. Draft BPA and do not draft for need. Be wise and target the guys in the mid rounds who can will fit what you what to do and will improve your team.
Lane Johnson 2013 NFL Draft #4 Overall pick RT...
Jake Matthews 2014 NFL Draft #6 Overall pick...
C Mitch Morse (Chiefs) to the Bills
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This guy posts on YouTube under JetsCentral
He not only praised the signing but also seems to think nice things about Josh Allen as well... He compares the Bills and Jets as similar up coming teams with many of the same needs...