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Not sure what you mean by "if Seattle eats some of that contract in the way the Bills did with Diggs". Buffalo didn't "eat" Diggs' contract, it's just the way the salary cap works where a signing bonus is paid up front but is amortized over the course of the contract. When a player is traded, what's left of the amortization immediately goes against the cap. This is the first time I've looked at overthecap, but I think I understand it. Metcalf would have a base salary of around $13 million this year and $18 million next year. Seattle would have a dead cap hit of $15 million / $7.5 million this year / next year. Unless they really want to get rid of him, I doubt they'd want to do that. But, I didn't think the Bills would have wanted to take the big hit they did for Diggs, so, what do I know.
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10 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:
see above. 15 sacks to get the 9 million back. He has had one season over 15 many years ago.
Yeah, I just read the terms that were posted above after posting my response to NoSaint. Even though Miller is one of the most positive people I've heard, I doubt even he believes he's going to get 15 sacks or even the 10.5 that he'd need to earn $8.645 bonus. But, perhaps 8 sacks to earn $6 million? Obviously, as unlikely as it is, we'll all root for him to get the 15 sacks and earn the full bonus.
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14 hours ago, NoSaint said:
all that cash being paid this year would both be real dollars out of pegulas pocket and also new money to account for against the cap
he reduced those today to be in line with what would’ve hit if he was cut.
you can chose to believe it was pure goodness in his heart if you want but common sense says he was told “you will receive x dollars, do you prefer to be a bill or a free agent at that number?”
transplant is still working on figuring out void years. Don’t let him teach you about l likely to be earned bonusesNot quite sure what you are trying to say about this. That if Miller refused the pay cut then they would have decided that to save Pegula money, they should cut him even though it would hurt the team's ability to sign players? From a cap standpoint, it would not have been advantageous to cut him. What have they done since Pegula bought the team to suggest he makes decisions based on his pocketbook?
Here are the options the Bills had if Miller didn't agree to the pay cut:
- Leave him on the team with the existing contract. $23.7 million against the cap in 2024.
- Cut him now. $32 million against the 2024 cap. I.e., an $8.3 million more than having him on the team taking a roster spot. Do you really think with where the Bills are cap wise they would do this?
- Cut him with a post June 1 designation. $17 million against the 2024 cap, $15.4 million against the 2025 cap. So, they save $6.7 million this year against the cap year. Possibly you think that the Bills were planning on this if he didn't take the cut. I doubt it. Still a huge dead cap hit each of the next two years. Unless they are convinced he's toast, I don't think this was much of an option.
Instead of the above, Miller now will count $8.645 million against the cap, he'll earn a base of $8.855 with a chance to make $20 million with incentives, up from $17.5 million. For Miller, if he's toast, it's a HUGE pay cut. If he's back to his old self, he'll make $2.5 million more than he would have under his old contract. And, freeing up space makes it more likely that the Bills will sign enough free agents to mean he'll have help on the D line and that the Bills will complete for a SB. Knowing how positive a person he is, I suspect Miller fully expects to meet all of his incentives and therefore was rewarded with a pay increase instead of a cut!
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23 minutes ago, NoSaint said:
vons alternative was to be cut, be signed to a meager deal and look badthis was simply a good business decision for both sides in the midst of a bad set of alternatives for each
This is not correct. The cap hit to cut was more than leaving him on the roster. Miller was more going to be cut. He accepted a pay cut which only favors the Bills unless possibly of he reaches incentives. I'd guess he believes in himself and expects to meet them.
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22 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said:
What Spotrac does is calculate the cap based on the top 51 contracts including futures contracts. Thus a move like releasing Hines only saves 3.66 because someone on a futures deal takes his roster spot. I'm not sure if this is the proper way or not to view the cap, but it does make sense.
That's absolutely the correct way to calculate since during the off-season the top 51 contracts of players still under contract with the team is how the cap is calculated. So, when a player is cut he obviously is no longer one of the top 51 and whomever was the 52nd highest now takes his place.
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5 minutes ago, PBF81 said:
Same here. I have a strong hunch that there's going to be a lot of weeping and gnashing of teeth however at the sticker shock. Indigenous people continue to leave the area due to high taxes, I don't see this going over much better, particularly since nearly $1B of the cost came from taxes in one form or another and directly or indirectly.
As with your earlier posts, I don't see any waiting list. Is there even one now?
I share your take that brokers will buy them up for resale on the secondary market. If that creates a waiting list we'll see. Either way, I don't expect the fan reaction to be very positive. It seems as if a lot of people are entirely out of tune with the prices floated in their survey, and given the cost increases already, just months in, it'd be unwise to expect those prices to drop.
Yeah, thanks for that take on the deposit. I guess I read it incorrectly. What you said sounds correct.
I have no problem with them charging a deposit to take the VR tour. It would be unmanageable otherwise. I'm simply awaiting more detail pics of what the damn thing will look like, primarily inside. So far we've been handed nothing but general almost generic sketches. They've gotta know what the final product looks like, why are they so secretive about it. It's a stadium, not a temple.
Just to be sure, after reading your post, I contacted the Bills via Chat. Also, I didn't cover it in the chat, but it's clear from the website that the deposit is refundable if you decide to not buy the tickets minus a $3 "processing fee". If you do buy ST in the new stadium, it goes towards the 2026 tickets.
Here's the chat:
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47 minutes ago, PBF81 said:
Well, IDK, just reporting what they've said. Maybe they'll change it and it'll be free.
I agree.
But if you're definitely going to buy STs under the new arrangement, I believe that it's a deposit on your ST costs. Not that $150 will go that far. LOL
I'm sure there's a link on TOS.
The Bills are still seeking fans interested in signing up to be on the waiting list for season tickets at the new stadium. Those interested can sign up online, drop a $150 deposit and then they’ll be welcomed to the experience center after current season ticket holders.
So for $150 you'll be welcomed. LOL
There's no place I've seen that is saying or implying that current season ticket holders pay a fee or even a deposit for the virtual stadium experience. The article you linked is saying $150 deposit is to be on the season ticket waiting list. Then, once current ST holders are invited to the "experience", those on the waiting list will be invited.
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1 hour ago, KDIGGZ said:
Belichick is Rex Ryan without Brady. He's no genius.
Sorry, I sold Rex short. Rex has a much better win/loss record than Bill without Brady. Bill is a bum
I hate to use the word genius, but BB is a great defensive coach, maybe the best defensive coach ever. And, he had the good sense to allow Brady to flourish for many years which many defensive coaches would never do. In the year Bledsoe got injured and they won their first SB, as I remember the Patsies were predicted to get the first pick in the draft the next year and BB would be fired. The defense would have kept them from coming close to that but replacing Bledsoe with Brady was the only way they became good enough to make the playoffs and ultimately beat the Lambs.
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41 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:
Great stuff. The article doesn't quite say it, but I remember there was reporting at the time that Belichick wanted to move forward with Garoppolo. It was Garoppolo's contract year, and something had to be done. Bill wanted to go with his QB of the future, and Brady didn't want to go. Kraft decided Brady would stay. The year Jimmy left, the Pats lost the Super Bowl to the Eagles. The following year, still with Brady, they won it over the Rams.
Now, some would like to say that history proved Kraft was right, but I think it's important to remember that Belichick had a long history of letting his top talent go after their peak but before they were ready to retire. Lawyer Milloy was the first, but there were a lot of guys along the way. Belichick was always moving younger guys into the lineup, and that's what kept him on top. He wanted to do it with Brady, because he thought he could get it done with Garoppolo, and maybe he was right. If he WAS right, the Pats would still have a franchise QB at the top of his game. (I know, Jimmy hasn't gotten it done elsewhere, but there are a lot players who played their best football when they played for the Patriots.)
Thanks for posting this. It's interesting.
Actually, I think it started long before this. When BB was in Cleveland, he benched a very popular Bernie Kosar for Vinnie F'ing Testaverde who at that point in his career was a complete bust. As it turns out, Kosar was done and BB was right and Vinnie had a decent back half of his career with the Browns and Jets.
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16 minutes ago, Ralonzo said:
That's a lazy retort, but so was mine...
It's the logical corollary of getting two feet inbounds on a catch. If you have a toe OB, you're OB. If you have a toe OB already and touch the ball then the ball is OB and the play is dead by the same reasoning.
I get what you're saying but can't agree. The difference being that when the receiver has his toe OB, it's only relevant if he has possession. The OP is saying that merely touching it while OB isn't possession and therefore shouldn't be considered OB. However, I also see issues with this. Specifically, if a player OB pushes it to a teammate, doesn't seem he should be able to help his team to recover.
Regarding the Steeler who layed down, I was watching that at the time, explained it to my son who was watching with me, and told him that it's a very smart play that I rarely see players having the heads up to do this. So long as the rule is what it is, I like seeing players play smart (unless against the Bills).
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3 minutes ago, NoSaint said:
On the brightside, you are nitpicking the 5th DEAlthough correct, I'd expect the 5th DE to have ten to fifteen snaps in our rotation. Miller isn't back to himself, KJ is currently better, especially against the run.
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So Von Miller over Kingsley Jonathan. I think that's a mistake.
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I have seasons on the 30 is line, section 132. Got up this morning to drive to LAX to fly to Rochester for the game, had to leave home 3:30 am for the flight. Got to the airport and found out my connecting flight to Rochester got cancelled just as I got to TSA. No other flights anywhere around were going. I just listed my tickets for $100.
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7 hours ago, MasterStrategist said:
My guess is that the NFL is counting on Week 18 being Bills/Phins flex, so either they don't want back-to-back weeks with same team OR it's possible that puts Miami above the allowable primetime (unable to flex week 18)
There is no flex on week 18, all games are listed as TBD because they will announce the Tuesday before when each game is, none are currently scheduled as to which day or time they will be played.
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I felt Brady called a horrible game and deserves much of the blame for the Bills almost losing.
Of course the turnovers were the primary reason for the close game and no, I'm not blaming Brady for those. But, the jumbo package with Edwards eligible seemed to almost always get two yards but they kept calling it again and again. Allen had a 71.4% completion rate but they only passed 21 times. I'm looking forward to listening to Joe Marino's Locked on Bills to hear what he says about the jumbo package but I was groaning every time the referee announced "76 is reporting as eligible" on the second half.
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I going. Bought 12 tickets for family and friends. Unfortunately, I bought the tickets shortly after they went on sale so I paid way too much. Of the twelve, ten of us live in So Cal, two are coming from Rochester and landing in Orange County in under an hour.
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8 minutes ago, Rubes said:
People seem to expect Von to have already returned to form by now, and because he hasn’t he’s a bust. That’s just not how these injuries work. He’s making slow, gradual improvement and won’t be back to his old form until next year. But that doesn’t mean his rehab isn’t going well and that he can’t have even some small impact this year. It just takes time to get back into form. People just need patience, which I know is asking a lot of some folks.
Completely agree with this. From my observations, most players aren't at their full post ACL form until 18 months or so post surgery. Many here were saying the same about Tre last year and sure enough, the beginning of this season, until he got injured again, he looked close to his old self. For Von, of course he's older and therefore a higher probability that he is actually done, but I'll reserve judgement on this until next season.
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8 hours ago, ControllerOfPlanetX said:
just once I’d like to hear the owner just say “Sorry fans, that was a big-ass mistake. This guy sucks, he sucked in his last job and he sucks in this one. I guess I was just conned.”I couldn't find the quote, but it seemed to me that when Ralph fired Tom Donahoe he came as close as I'd expect. He apologized and said it was an embarrassment. I think he was talking more about how the fans were treated, but it was not great football either.
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On 9/22/2023 at 9:22 AM, Beck Water said:
Is that the daily hour long podcast? Any idea when? I'd love to see a detailed breakdown but Man that's A Lot.
I just started listening to podcasts especially Locked on Bills two weeks ago. It's between 30 and 45 minutes. One day power week is a question and answer session. Sorry, not sure which day. But one of the days after the Vegas game I think it may have been the first question was to explain the difference between gap and zone blocking. I think the day before is his all 22 review where he said the bills seem to have stopped trying to force the zone blocking scheme. Worth a listen if you want to understand it better.
Very interesting listening to these podcasts and how the different ones say complete opposites. Not on blocking, but other things. Joe Marino from locked on Bills said Bernard played pretty decent against the Jets, Buffalo rumblings said he was awful. Marino said they schemed to give Brown lots of help against Crosby and when they didn't he was taken to town. Sal said they didn't give Brown help. I don't watch those things closely enough to judge who is right, but overall Joe Marino seems to know his shxx so I tend to believe him more.
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19 minutes ago, maddenboy said:
i suspect it might also be that whatever McBeane told him he needed to do (to improve himself) in order to pass Bernard, Kirksey just decided he didnt have it in himself to do all that, at this point in his career.
Because otherwise, he might have (and he might have behind the scenes) asked to be cut or traded so he could catch on somewhere else.
As was said by someone else above, he's on the practice squad. He can sign anywhere to the 53 man roster.
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Sad. Always enjoyed listening to him on Sirius XM. Haven't heard him there for some time and was assuming his health had declined to where he was no longer able, but never heard for sure.
Before hearing him on XM, I had never heard of him. Always knew of Tex Schram as the GM and didn't realize Gil's involvement. Hearing from him over the last many years on the radio I came to understand and now wondered who was more responsible, Tex or Gil, for the Cowboys being good for so many years.
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1 hour ago, The Jokeman said:
https://www.buffalobills.com/news/bills-announce-moves-to-get-to-53-man-roster
Naming a player on IR in the preseason prevents them to come back on season.
Not 100% accurate per Sal (heard it around 11:30 today). Teams can make an injury settlement. Then, they need to wait three weeks (I assume three games at this point but he said three weeks). After the waiting period they can sign with any team. Sal suggests that this is likely what the Bills plan to do with Barkley and in the meantime sign another QB to the PS.
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6 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said:
I'm not absolving Haskins of personal responsibility in his own death but obviously (thanks Marrone), the partial settlements indicate that the plaintiff lawyer's allegations had/have some merit.
Of course, because obviously noone ever settles frivolous lawsuits.
Spotting a Bills fan during travel
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I travel for work quite a bit so am in airports several times per month. I rarely will be wearing Bills gear, so of course I don't get comments. But, whenever I see someone wearing any Bills gear, I always say "Go Bills". Sometimes it leads to a conversation. I never bring up TBD or TSW. Most of the time I work into the conversation that I live in CA and am a season ticket holder. Living in CA, I every once in a while see people with Bills gear, same thing, always give them a "Go Bills" and typically that leads to a conversation. I'm more likely to be wearing some Bills gear when I'm home, I always wear a Bills cap when I walk my dogs.