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    Week 17 12/31/23 GAMEDAY Bills vs Patriots Pregame Thread

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    5 hours ago, Pete said:

    Playoffs are nice.  Now lets make some noise in the playoffs.  Winning the Super Bowl is the goal.  No more flat, uninspired. pathetic playoff showings

    We are 4-3 in the playoffs the last three seasons, with one of the losses being in one of the greatest playoff games ever. A coin flip away. Other than last year’s Cincy playoff loss, I’ve seen inspired play out of our team in the playoffs. 

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    Why is it so hard for fans to admit reality?

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    On 12/27/2023 at 12:07 PM, FilthyBeast said:

     

    I've pondered this since Saturday night and while I still agree on the surface, they did win the game and kept season alive. But obvious reasons for concern heading forward:

     

    - The Patriots game won't be easy and I'm sick of these ridiculous Vegas lines. My guess game is too close for comfort until 4th quarter again before Bills pull away and play better at home and probably win by 7 - 9 points.

    - This team sucks on the road this year no matter what way you slice it with only one 'easy' win against a garbage commanders team that was closer than final score indicated until 4th quarter. So this is why I give serious pause to them winning in Miami next week, and in the playoffs which is something that McD/Allen have never done.

    - People keep raving about the oline, but they were terrible against the Chargers and again this is a trend on the road because they were also trash in KC (albeit against an elite defense/best in league).

    - As much as he's broke out this year, James Cook can't be trusted and I see that rearing it's ugly head in the playoffs too should the Bills get there.

    - I still think this team is closer to the one that was 5-5 in the first 10 games vs. what we've seen since Dorsey has been fired.

    I call BS on the bold. In the past 3 seasons Mcd/Allen are 4-3 in the playoffs. If you’re going to speak in absolutes, at least be correct. 

    Injured Bills coming back?

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    On 12/26/2023 at 7:37 PM, NeverOutNick said:

    Hope I’m wrong on him but besides being a physical specimen of a human he doesn’t impress me as a WR. He didn’t do much with Anthony Richardson as his QB and doesn’t pass the eye test when it comes to being an NFL WR. But who knows maybe he got in the jugs machine hard while on IR and learned how to play the position from Diggs and how to snag a ball with his hands from Kincaid 

    And block like Davis?

    Will the Chiefs Fire Reid?

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    15 hours ago, HomeskillitMoorman said:


    McD for us has had huge coaching gaffes in literally every season we’ve been in the playoffs, hasn’t learned anything or improved after 7 years here with blunder after blunder and many of them being the same kind, and has always had a defense here that folds the majority of the time in big spots. He’s been bailed out a ton by #17. 
     

    He’s also whiffed on 2 out of 3 OC hires with Brady to be determined. What happens if Brady’s good and gets hired away too, we’re back in the same boat of the offense with our franchise player hinging on who he hires again? 
     

    And yes as you mentioned, this can not compare with Reid having gone to 3 SB’s and winning 2 along with 2 AFC title game appearances. We have 1 AFC title game appearance and 3 early exits. 
     

    If we don’t make a great run to win it all this year, that’s 6 years of Allen with no ring…that absolutely is very disappointing. 


    Just making it to the playoffs is not the standard if you have a generational talent at QB. 
     

    We would be ecstatic about having a good coach if we did actually have one. 

    “Oh, Josh, you’re my hero” 🤮 🤮

    This is the same guy who threw a pick in 9 consecutive games this season. Not to mention the fumbles. 
    #17 has been bailed out by Mcd’s defense so many times it’s unreal. And not just this season. Josh is a turnover machine. A lot of Josh’s late game comebacks are due to his turnovers earlier in games. Some of you still sniffing Josh’s jock. Stop, it’ll make you dopey. 

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    Time to rewrite the Conventional Wisdom on the playoff loss to Bengals--and the new CW on Dorsey too

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    On 11/19/2023 at 2:12 PM, Mister Defense said:

    Last year it quickly became conventional wisdom by many in the media, locally and nationally, that the Bills were simply emotionally and physically spent, and that is why they were dominated by the Bengals in Buffalo, at High Mark Stadium. The story went something like this: the tragedy in Buffalo, the loss of Knox’s brother, the snow storms, and the Hamlin incident all were too much for the Bills, and that is why the Bengals handled them so easily, the reason the Bills were not even in the game.  ‘They look exhausted’, we heard during and after the game. That take became the CW across the country, although I don’t think the Bills thought that was the reason.

     

    But I and others didn’t think that was the reason in any way for the Bills performance. That is not because of a lack of empathy, but I thought this was a tough, resilient team, Buffalo Strong, and that if anything, the surprisingly quick recovery of Hamlin was like the weight of the world being lifted off the team’s, and Buffalo’s, shoulders.

     

    The problem was that they had an incompetent offensive coordinator, who the league was slowly coming to terms with as the season progressed.  We saw with our own eyes, if we were paying attention, that he was extremely poor at even the most fundamental of OC duties:

     

    o   Did not seem to have game plan specific plans prepared for the game that would help to facilitate things against defenses….

    o   He did know how to make in game changes to overcome what the defense was doing, seemed to have no  plan for those things…

    o   Did not utilize the running game well, using it arbitrarily, with almost no connection to the passing game. As  Gregg Cosell said several times last year: “There is no synchronicity between the Bills' running and passing game”.  This in itself, to me, was a reason Dorsey could not be permitted to return for this season...

    o   Did not call plays that made sense, repeatedly, and often was clueless as to what a good rhythm in play calling meant

    o   He did not use his personnel effectively, not getting the most out of the players on the offense.

    o   And awful use of formations to facilitate things for the offense,  with extremely limited use of motion, and with so little use of Allen under center and play action, despite the fact that the Bills excelled when using those three things…

     

    Etcetera--but those are only some of the big, obvious things. Imagine how Dorsey dealt with the equally important smaller details that make an offense work. I cannot imagine how bad those details were if he had no clue related to the big, obvious problems even laymen like us saw.

     

    Even one of those defects means that there would be significant obstacles placed in front of the offense—rather than facilitating things, Dorsey was doing the opposite, placing big obstacles in front of his talented players.  But add up all of the obstacles and they became insurmountable. That is what happened this year, clearly.  And the fish then rotted from the head, as the players tried to overcome their grossly incompetent OC.

     

    This year, as the offense became Dorsey's alone, and the heavy lift from last year became their identity, of course the play of the players, even of the best Bills, was going to decline. They were operating in a fundamentally flawed offense, one that could often not even move the ball, and one that caused them to fall behind in game after game. Players, already going into the game with Dorsey's huge obstacles in front of them, now were faced with coming back against teams, teams that seemed to know the Bills extremely limited repertoire of plays by heart, causing the Bills to look sloppy, inept, turn the ball over, and causing them to lose their confidence.

     

    Our tough, resilient team was not exhausted in the playoff game, and not against the Jaguars this year because of jet lag…. they were UNPREPARED to play well, let alone win-- shocked, defeated before they even walked on the field, as defenses, especially the good ones, like the Bengals, had come to terms with how fundamentally flawed this offense was.  And this year it had become common place, with an offense Dan Orlosvky said was “outrageously predictable” and “the easiest offense in the NFL to defend”.  Our recently great, feared offense now the easiest to defend in the NFL? THAT is why the Bills looked so shocked and confused in that playoff game--and we then saw those same faces this year, over and over and over. This is why Michael Robinson bravely called for a change in the OC position before the Bills' Thursday night game, one of the few to dare speak the truth on national television.

     

    Good head coaches and defensive coordinators have been like fat kids in a free candy store, drooling and licking their chops, at how easy this very poorly coached offense would be to stop now, despite several elite players and a history of them dominating defenses. This became clearer and clearer.

     

    What happened the next time we saw the starters on the field in the preseason, how did they do?  No points(?)  scored in the entire half of that preseason game. This was yet another canary in the coal mine for all of us understanding how fundamentally poor Dorsey was at his job. Even in a preseason game his players were unprepared, could not get first downs, could not score.  (I kept thinking--what will happen when they play good defenses in the NFL this year--or even mediocre ones?) And the look on the players' faces?--shocked again, and with no answers. Just like they looked against the Bengals in their previous game.

     

    The CW at the time? Just a preseason game, meaningless, as this is going to be a great offense, a “wrecking crew”, as Steve Tasker called them. And then, of course, this was what we would see this season, as that became their identity.

     

    So let's not accept any longer that CW from last January or now from so many on the Dorsey firing.  The new CW?  Dorsey was a scapegoat, a fall guy, that Allen is to blame, or the other players, and Dorsey should not have been fired, especially in the middle of the season. That this cannot be done now, is almost never the answer, is going to make the Bills worse...  

     

    But the CW is wrong again, of course.  The Bills were likely not going to beat any of the good teams they are yet to play this year with Dorsey in charge, as they were the worst coached offense in the NFL, turning our once great offense into a crap heap.  The only hope to save the season was to get Dorsey out of there.

     

    Now, hopefully there is time for the Bills to show who they really are.  It may be hard to rebound quickly from the mess Dorsey alone created, but I think they will, and prove the latest CW wrong--and last year's too.   No dominant teams in the AFC this year, and now we may be able to see what the Josh Allen led Bills are really made of...again.

     

     
     

     

    I’m glad we’re playing better, but for those of you who are looking to excuse away player accountability, here you go. The players had something to do with this. Including Josh in the Cincy playoff loss. His head wasn’t in the game. Worried about a baby mama, crazy ex, and dating a celebrity. Dorsey wasn’t the issue. We were 2nd in scoring last year. In the entire league. We’re on the outside looking in for the playoffs because Josh gave the Jets the season opener. We even got rid of Aaron Rodgers in that game and Josh screwed it up. Player accountability is important. 

    The Vibe of this Team feels different… to me at least

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    On 12/19/2023 at 9:00 PM, Bill Grundy said:

    I've followed a lot of sports teams over the years. mostly soccer and rugby teams over here in the UK

     

    And I honestly can't think of a team I've liked more than these Bills. For a start I like McDermott - I know most people don't, but I do. I think he's an impressive leader of men who understands culture. I like Bean too. I think they've identified what the team's needed and made some fantastic moves to make it happen. Be it a run game. An o line. A red zone offence that doesn't depend on trick plays. Picks like Bernard, Cook and Torrence. It might be that I don't understand the Xs and Os of the game well enough to fully see what drives so many people crazy. But I see a lot of good in our management. 

     

    Then there's the players. Josh Allen is the most enigmatic and likeable sportsman I've perhaps ever seen. Milano. Dawkins. Oliver. Morse. Phillips. These are just great, great guys. The whole roster just seems to be filled with character and the right kind of attitude. It's a pleasure to be following them at the moment after years of, well, not this. 

     

    It guts me that so much of this season was wasted with the wrong OC - by all accounts a decent enough man but infuriating from game one. And I feel the NFL cost us dearly by robbing a home game to pander to the league's international aspirations (scandalous, really). So  I am not very  optimistic that this is the year . But I really do think the year is coming - the year we win the big prize - if we keep in the same direction.

     

    It feels like the side is growing and learning all the time. I know many will disagree. But I just hope we don't lose our nerve and find ourselves starting over, with a new HC, with a new culture and end up just spinning wheels. There's something special going on here. I hope it gets backed. 

    This isn’t true. What you see here is the lynch mob that has to have a target. They are a vocal few. There have been polls here that show more people like what he’s doing here than don’t. They don’t bother with positive threads because the mob jumps their throats with snide, negative posts to the positive thread. Like there aren’t enough negative threads to join in on. 
    More people like and want McD to stay. 

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    I think it's time to activate Fournette

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    16 hours ago, mrags said:

    I’ve got news for you. It is exactly why he’s not playing. So that useless scrubs can get beaten in the return game. 
     

    My biggest issue with this coaching staff I think at this point. I know McD is going to make some dumb gameday calls. I know he will screw up some clock issues. I know he will mismanage timeouts, challanges, and the ability to find the right situational awareness when it matters. But for the life of me I cannot figure out why he continues to dress some of the players he does while he leaves others inactive or on the PS on gameday. Playoff Lenny has been aching to get in there. And I get that the RBs have generally been playing well, but you went out and picked this guy up for a reason. To not use him is a crime. 

    Of course you can’t figure it out.

    One person is at practices during the week, while the other is a keyboard coach/GM who has no clue how those players are doing during the week. Hope this explains why you can’t figure out what coach is thinking. 

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    I think it's time to activate Fournette

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    30 minutes ago, boater said:

    We think. We have no way of knowing at all. Fournette hasn't faced game-time intensity and contact since last year. Who knows if he has the burst, strength, and reflexes still.

     

    That's why I'd like to see him play Saturday. Better we learn what we have ahead of time rather than experiment in the playoffs.

    Respectfully, now is not the time to experiment. We’re trying to win out. We’re a 60 yd fg in the wind and rain from being 4-0 in our last four games. No need to mess with the chemistry. We can’t treat the chargers like a jv team and lose. 

    Would this be the week to give Elam a chance.

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    1 hour ago, Bill from NYC said:

    I didn't call YOU a lapdog. Either way, I do hope that you are able to calm down at some point. Perhaps a jog around the block if the weather holds up? 

     

    Since we used the word "block," you might want to consider using that function on my posts. C'mon, neither of us would be missing much, wouldn't you say?

     

    In any event, do be well. No hard feelings on this end.

    I realize who you were calling a lap dog. Never said it was me you were referring to. 😂

    I called someone out for name calling by someone who brought up class. 

    This place is fun, I don’t block idiotic post or posters. You’re welcome to though. 

    Would this be the week to give Elam a chance.

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    19 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:

    Wow, that was nasty. In any event, my compliments for living up to your well deserved screen name! 👍👌:)

    Nasty!?! Yeah, calling someone a lapdog is so classy. NYC classy, I guess. 
    By the way, you’re not the first one to use the juvenile “screen name “ bit. I expect it when someone is called out and has nothing else to say. Good job. 

    Would this be the week to give Elam a chance.

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    41 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

    Yep, that pick simply had to be a corner, even if it involved trading up. Screw wide receivers and/or blockers. We needed a first round corner to play in a zone at all costs. 

    Now, Tre might be shot due to his injury. Perhaps McDermott and his lapdog will run to the podiun in 2024 and grab another corner in the 1st. It wouldn't surprise me.

    Beane has done a damn good job building this team. For every pick people here complain about, there’s 2 excellent picks. In the Elam draft alone, we have 4 solid contributors not named Elam. 
    “Cook sucks “ “Cook looks slow”

    ”Oliver sucks”

    ”Bernard suck”

    ”AJ isn’t an nfl player “

    ”Groot sucks”

    There’s more I can note for you, but you get the picture. 
     people like you who don’t know 💩 about drafting, acting like you know what you’re doing. After the fact. 

    Every gm has misses. Find one that doesn’t. You can’t. 

    “This post sucks”

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    Patty is not happy... Boo Hoo!

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    7 minutes ago, CodeMonkey said:

    I get it.  Has anyone ever seen offside called on the offense? I don't remember ever. No one I know remembers one either. 

    He was clearly offside, no one can refute that. But no warning at that point of the game is inexcusable. I get why he blew up and why both Mahomes and Reid made (the likely expensive) comments they both made after the game.

     

    There are many reasons for the extremely poor officiating this year.  But lucky for the Bills (and by extension us :) ) that one got them the W and kept the playoff hopes alive.

    This is total BS.
    With 1:54 left in the game, around half a minute before, they had a wr lined up in the exact same spot as Toney. He looked over and checked with the officials and was fine. Officials did their job. 

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    Patty is not happy... Boo Hoo!

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    35 minutes ago, bobobonators said:

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    Toney was almost lined up with the defense. That’s how far Offside he was. Mahomes/Reid should be fined. 

    The Jeremy and Joe show mentioned something no one else brought up… the RT was lined up too far back, all game. Huge advantage and is illegal. Should have been flagged at least once. 

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    The "McDermott Handicap" and hopefully a solution

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    30 minutes ago, pigpen65 said:

    The Chiefs have one good receiving target. It's crazy that with 1 minute left 8n in the game Kelce was left so wide open that he was able to catch a 30 yard pass and still have time to then throw a 20 yard pass to another receiver. You would think in that situation the Bills would have at least a couple of guys draped on him.

    They tried to double him. Problem is it looked like the wr lined up next to Kelce picked 2 to 3 dbs at the beginning of his route. Wasn’t even a “rub” play. 

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