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11 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:
If Gilmore had been in his Bills uni he would have dropped that interception.
well, he has much better coaching, so you’re likely right.
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14 hours ago, billvernsays said:
I’m pretty sure Mahomes wouldn’t have won the MVP in Buffalo this year.
Give it time, I think Josh Allen is gonna be a stud
well, you're likely right, but Reid > McDermott.
Reid: sits Mahomes for a year while he studies behind Smith. Starts him this year, and viola! AFC championship game and MVP, all while having one of the worst defenses in the league.
McDermott: began the 2018 season by starting the same QB that threw 5 picks in 1 half, the previous season.
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3 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:
So you don't think there is a wealth of statistical evidence that black athletes and people generally are not judge more harshly than their white counterparts?
nope. sadly, for some this will always be the case unless the person drastically widens their scope of view, or circle of friends.
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12 minutes ago, MJS said:
Tyrod was traded, not released. Comparing him and Peterman makes no sense. Tyrod was a veteran making decent money and Peterman was a rookie making peanuts. There is no logical way to compare the two.
Are you arguing that Tyrod did not get benched because of poor play? Here and in Cleveland? If so, that is silly. Clearly there are racism issues in the world, and probably in the NFL too. But Tyrod was benched by a white coach and then a black coach. He is just not good enough to be a consistent starter in this league. Great bridge QB, though.
TT was benched in Cleveland for a QB that was drafted FIRST OVERALL, who should have been named starter in the first place.
TT was benched in Buffalo, for a FIFTH rounder, who's only real skill set seemed to be trick shots performed on YouTube, who proceeded to throw 5 picks in their debut. Then after making the playoffs (that same year), the organization trades him, and names the same QB that showed zero promise of the field of play, as starter, even over JA.
How does the comparison not make sense? they were both QBs on the same team, neither a rookie, with the same offensive talent. Context matters.
I'm not crusading that TT was the answer at QB, but you can't disagree that the FO left everyone scratching their heads. and to call him scumbag because he spoke about a topic that some (most) are offended by because it doesn't affect them....nah.
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5 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:
interesting I am sure you will get a lot of negative feedback although i thin your comment is too strong but i recognize what you are getting at, lets be honest, too many people think only whites can be racists..
Tyrod pulling the race card was 100% wrong BUT he said it once out of frustration, overall he was a total quality man as far as I can tell.
no it wasn't wrong, it's how he felt and there's evidence to support that claim. if you disagree, then disagree, but it was never wrong.
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2 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:
Yeah? How many starting QBs get traded the year after they make the playoffs?
probably the same number of backup QBs that become starter after throwing 5 picks.
Just now, BringBackOrton said:How many good QBs get traded for and then benched in 2 games?
right over your head huh?
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27 minutes ago, Gugny said:
I'm not mad at him. He was benched in Buffalo because he sucked. He was benched in Cleveland because he sucked. He wasn't benched because he's black.
Never, anywhere, have I said that this doesn't happen. I am talking specifically about Tyrod Taylor. He was never unfairly judged. He was given the opportunity to start for two NFL teams (THREE YEARS, here) and he failed two times. That's not a color issue. That's a "he isn't a good QB" issue.
but Peterman was/is, since he was retained and TT was released...? haha!
people will use any excuse to justify their own bigotry and cognitive dissonance.
it's amazing how people get more upset about someone calling out racism or bias, than the actual act itself. absolutely breathtaking.
...but then again I wouldn't expect much else from you.
29 minutes ago, Clyde Smith said:This is what you are mad at Tyrod about? What he is saying is absolutely true, it's not a race card thing. It is what it is, been that way for decades and to some extent still continues.
you have to understand whom you're speaking to. do you really think this individual has faced any racism or knows anyone who has? it doesn't resonate. to most people in this country the term is a fable. as if the civil war, and jim crow era never took place. he says:
"I'm not mad at him" - but repeatedly refers to him as a scumbag. there's malice and hatred there.
it really isn't worth it @Clyde Smith. just another confused and angry elder.
the fact that this topic took the turn it did...is really sad.
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yea I'll be watching, and as usual, rooting against the Pats.
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6 hours ago, DBilz2500 said:
Steroids do that to ya.
1 hour ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:Jackson's problem is that his current playing style and the way the Ravens are using him is likely not sustainable. Allen is finding the right spots to run. Especially since the bye week. That is why he is averaging an insane 8.8 ypc in his six games since the bye and coming back from the injury. He's doing this while still playing primarily as a QB. This should help him develop as a passer even faster than Jackson who is running nearly as much as he throws in some games. In his seven games Jackson has never thrown the ball more than 25 times. Allen has thrown the ball fewer than 25 times only once in his last six games. He's thrown it over 30 times 3 times including 41 times against the Patriots.
And Allen has been hands down the more dynamic and efficient runner to close the season. The numbers aren't even close.
Allen's averages in his final six games:
9 rushes 8.8ypc 476 yards 5TDs and only 4 fumbles and 7 sacks
Since Jackson has started seven games, lets throw out his worst rushing game of the season, two weeks ago against the chargers where he was sacked 3 times, failed to score, fumbled the ball and carried the ball 13 times for 39 yards and 3.0ypc.
His six game averages throwing out his worst game:
17.6 rushes 4.9ypc 517 yards 4 TDs and 9 fumbles and 12 sacks
Keep in mind Allen has converted probably close to a half dozen 3rd/4th and 1's and multiple kneel downs. His yards per rush could probably be closer to 11.0 if we took out the kneel downs and short yardage conversions. Of course Jackson has probably had similar situations too I just don't know for sure and how many.
that's so cool. however, only one of them won their division and is headed to the playoffs.
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the worst...
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1 hour ago, BillyWhiteShows said:
I don’t get the love for Lamar
I don’t get the hate for Lamar.
Who just won their division?
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On 12/24/2018 at 12:59 PM, The Frankish Reich said:
Mayfield
[big, big dropoff here ... not to scale!]
Jackson*
[smaller, but clear dropoff ...]
Darnold
[smaller but still significant dropoff ...]
Allen
[significant dropoff ...]
Rosen
*Jackson gets an asterisk because Harbaugh (smartly) changed the offense to take advantage of his strengths/hide his liabilities. Allen (except when going off script and running around and making big plays on his own) has not had this advantage. Maybe that's better for his long-term success (and health), but it means poorer results in the short run.
So, Jackson gets an asterisk because his coach is smart enough to alter the offense to fit their QB’s strength? Flacco and Jackson have very dissimilar games, yet you want to hold good coaching against him...? Haha amazing. People are willing to use every excuse in the book, rather than admitting Jackson is talented and playing much better than JA (even as a passer).
Wouldnt it it be great if McD and Daboll were smart enough to follow this amazing coaching trend?
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2 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:
...a very fair and well done assessment......but you also know the popularity 'round these parts with the "voice of reason" stuff.............didn't posting pundits forecast, 4-12, 5-11, 6-10, etc in an expected down year?.....now that Bflo has met the expectation, how many of those same "pundits" are yapping,...."we suck.....fire everybody"......go figure.....
many here predicted the Bills' offense would be much better with an "actual QB", a "pocket passer".
I'm not sure what expectations were met, or why they're so low, but...
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Just now, hondo in seattle said:
Because the best two players on the OL retired. And our QB wasn't a Super Bowl calibre QB and had to be replaced. And our dead money and bloated contracts made sustained excellence impossible.
Seriously, just go to Over-The-Cap, or a similar site, and within minutes you'll figure out what Beane is up to.
Yes, losing organizations use "rebuild" as an excuse. But good GMs and HCs do successfully rebuild teams from time to time. That's why the excuse sometimes works.
We don't know yet if Beane and McD will succeed. But the plan is obviously. We're going to start loading up in 2019 and continue into 2020.
ah yes, the cap situation. I love that narrative.
good organizations don't make moves like the Bills have. the current regime is on their 2nd year and we're looking at 2020 for an actual turn around? ha ok.
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2 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:
It’s also hard to say because our qbs have been so bad. Woods is better in LA. Sammy was off to the best start of his career before he got hurt.
no argument there. wholeheartedly agree.
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12 minutes ago, timtebow15 said:
That was in response to a post pointing out how awful Allen's supporting cast is and has everything to do with his play. Name a QB that could look good in this offense with players dropping TDs, no blocking, crap TEs - not even Brees would look like an NFL QB with these losers. Allen is not the problem right now.
not sure, but our last QB did OK. people act recent Bill QBs had Julio Jones and Odell as targets before. it's been a long time since this organization has had any really game changers at the receiver position.
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I keep seeing the word "rebuild". I even saw the word "reload". all excuses for perpetual losing organizations.
also, need to ask why the FO is "rebuilding" a team that made it to the playoffs the year prior? poor decisions were made by the coaching staff, and we saw how it played out.
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1 minute ago, whatdrought said:
Bears V. Ravens in the big dance?
Defense > Offense in December.
Could be fun to watch.
But Billy takes away what you do best... if they can’t run, who are the Ravens?
a team with a stand up defense and passing threats...?
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2 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:
Nice throw. If Allen threw it, I wonder if some would say it was off a bit and the TE had to extend for it ?
ha keep projecting
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5 minutes ago, SCBills said:
How about we wait to see McDermott with an actual team, you know, kinda like what Lynn has.
how were the Chargers doing before Lynn?
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2 minutes ago, Doc said:
LOL! Because Watkins, Wood, Hogan, Goodwin, and Clay, and Glenn, Incognito and Wood weren't enough for Tyrod. GTFOoH.
TT and the Bills got to the playoffs in 2017, when Watkins, Hogan, and Goodwin weren't on the team.
...the door is thataway --->
1 hour ago, WRONG JOSH said:Again, it's not about Rosen. I was just as much of a Mayfield fan as Rosen. It's about Allen not being worth all of those picks. Literally the worst QB in the NFL and you guys are acting like he has arrived because he can scramble. Not sure how he is better than Tyrod. Give me Tyrod and use the pick on Ridley and another top pick on OL instead of trading it away to move up for a project QB.
my point exactly. every week this forum lit pitchforks whenever our previous QB scrambled . the FO made it a point to say they were looking for a pocket passer. that's not who they drafted. does JA have a big arm? sure. but again...how much different is he from the last QB. JA's was 13/26 with a QBR of 22.9 last week.
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2 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said:
Seriously? His stats in the passing game are not stellar and he's a running QB that passes.
as to the teams he's played.... All of then have major issues this year.
6-8 Cincinnati (worse record than the Browns), 3-11 Oakland, 5-9 Atlanta and 5-9 Tampa
I knew you'd get with the Program
oh, so we discredit wins depending on the opponent? Allen beat Jacksonville (3pt diff) and Detroit (1pt diff). shall we discredit those wins as well? I see many lauding over Allen's performance on Sunday, yet never saw anyone state "yea but Detroit has had major issues this year". a win is a win. I know you want Jackson to be bad. You need it. Sadly, that's not happening.
you may want to enroll in a different program.
5 hours ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:Yeah, but he's doing it running an advanced version of the wildcat. That does not make him the better QB.
so when JA runs for a QB it matters and counts towards their evaluation as a QB, but with Jackson, not so much. got it.
40 minutes ago, eball said:I'm not necessarily directing this at you, but it's a shame that Allen's mobility and rushing statistics are essentially being used against him in the evaluation of his QB play, while at the same time Lamar Jackson (with a much better supporting cast on offense) is being praised for his running ability while posting very modest passing numbers.
wasn't this the same metric being held against our former QB? People's biggest grip was his eagerness to run, instead of looking to pass. JA does the same thing (equating to less wins) and people love it. funny.
the Bills FO made it a point to say they were looking for a big pocket passer in the off season, then draft a mobile QB.
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26 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:
lol Jackson GTFO here
Lamar Jackson is 4-1 as a starter, with the only loss coming from KC (of all teams) in overtime.
it's ok to be wrong.
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24 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:
Jim Kelly wanted us to draft Tim Tebow. Ron Jaworski said Kaepernick was going to be an of all time. Everyone has an opinion.
allen has done some good things but there’s a ton to prove. Hopefully the guys who built this crappy offenses add some real players next year and we don’t have to make a million excuses for poor QBs play.
only difference is one of those players took their team to the SB in their rookie year. so not the best comparison
BREAKING: NFL, Kap, and Reid settle Grievance Case about Collusion
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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I can promise that didn't happen...the NFL paid big, hence why no details are coming out.
by whom...? not his own community, that's for sure.