dayman

In any event...the art of governing necessitates cooperation and negoatiation with the goal of getting things done. You can't let your idea of perfect be the enemy of good. There is no ideology that works at all times...otherwise no serious party would differ on the subject. Building and economy is hard practical work, not a game for ideologes on either side. Most Americans believe that if the government ran everything it would fail. Most Americans also believe that there are functions the government has that do good. On and on...it's public private partnership that works in the most prosperous nations and will continue to for the next century. The debate is what and how. The interests driving either side on many of the individual subjects are usually not diametrically opposed. So long as one side isn't content on "defeating" the other side and convinced they are always right there is comrpomise on most issues that can do good. The idea that "i want to go 70 and you want to go 30 so I give in if it's 60" is not reality. It's nonsense.

Many times you bring up this attack on compromise. Read "getting to yes." Get back to me.

I have to say, through a slew of conversations Tom has done nothing short of prove..beyound a doubt...that he is in fact king of the asylum. Provided you understand what we're working towards here...you come to the conclusion he has won.

Bunch of words nothing more. My point is simply that while obviously more left than the GOP, there is an appreciation of compromise and moderation within the Democratic party. The internal centrist pull there, is not found in the current GOP. GOP backers can continue to lable Dems lefty nutballs who win support on nonsense, but until they take a look at their own party with the same honesty it's not going to get any better. There's some debate over the "problem" (assuming there has been one) with Mitt's campaign. To me the majority of the blame falls on party forces pushing and pulling him around. Long story short, I get it .... Repubs are conservative and proud of it. But the calculus is not so simple on the Dems side. It's a cooalition. To its detriment at certain points in history it's far less cohesive...hense the famous saying "I'm not apart of an organized political party, I'm a democrat." But with the GOP tilting as it has been the self correcting mechanism within the party has kept it closer to the center than the GOP and it's one of the reasons...imo....we're seeing what we're seeing. Long story even shorter: Actual Dems aren't exactly what passionate Repubs think they are

I'll check it out. I agree with the premise i try to give a quick scan of the following sites from time to time as well: http://www.spiegel.de/international/ http://www.ft.com/home/uk http://beta.indiatimes.com/ http://www.guardiannews.com/

I just want you all to know I care. About all of you posters/posts. 100%. Not just..half or something...

Are you living in America/trying to become a citizen?

That actual answer is that most Democrats don't gravitate towards the charicature of a "liberal" personality. Most Dems are certainly more liberal than conservatives but, at least on this board, many "conservatives" don't seem to understand where most Dems are at. The party is home to some very liberal factions, but it's not a "very liberal faction" overall. As is well documented, the very conservative faction is increasingly influential in the GOP...so in some ways it makes sense why certain talk-junkies don't get this.

Actually you just leak something to the press and then do a presser citing the article your leak produced.

North America's team baby. Why are you so interested in US poltiics anyway meazza? Being Canadian...

That's a picture of man in doubt of nothing. hehe

What's your point? I watch O'Reilly. Therefore I talk about O'Reilly. And he's hilarious about "the internet" has been forever. He talks about it as if it's a video game.

Ya! !@#$ school! I ain't sending my kid to no God damn academia where they teach him to be a god damn Muslim!

O'Reilly posits that Americans are addicted to the internet and do not know the issues therefore the polls are wrong. He has it figured out.

Hilarious add just ran on my tv. Campaign voice sounding like it was selling something cheap on an infomercial came on saying "attnetion patriots! if the election was held today Obama would win and continue the spread of socialism. donate now and pledge to vote for romney at xxx-xxxx" hehe....got to love that

I know I'll be hit with a prompt "you don't know football" but the truth is we've been good up front but not dominate as the personel suggests we should be

I know, I'm hurt.

Ya know that could have actually been funny...but you failed somehow...despite all the words and promising premise.

That's forgivable. Fool us once etc...

In all honesty I would LOVE to hear what are Cigna's thought's one issues that are important to him. Let us do it. Not as a battle...but you feel so wronged...so lets go. What are your problems?

Topic turned into people blaming politicians for being politicians? Prepared speech! OMG!

Ya we'll do another after the first debate. This is the baseline.

Sorry 3rd parties...but you don't get in the poll hehe. If you can, vote for who you actually think will win...that's why there's another poll so you can express your feelings separately.