dayman

If I'm asked that question I don't say 47% are off the table. Plain and simple. Even to raise money. I don't see how that really helps raise money anyway. Say they're tough and not the focus, don't say what he said. And if you do, don't let it come out publicly.

Don't be retarded. Romney won't go down until the election itself (unless somehow he bombs the first debate terribly which would probably do it). For as much people as will vote Obama as he says, similar amounts will vote for him. etc...etc..etc...close election...etc... You think that nobody in that 47% is going to vote Romney? You think there is no market there for him? Karl Rove doesn't think that. B/c Karl Rove is good at his job.

Education and money (real economy) is the only answer for that part of the world. It has nothing to do w/ Islam. They're pissed, and they're religious...and their leaders can easily turn all that energy against us to avoid tension coming back at them b/c we put ourselves out there. And all this goes w/ the obvious point that while protests makes for vivid imagery...it's still not the case that there's out of control anti-American violence throughout the region by the masses. Is it not that simple?

The substance that he will never convince the people who don't pay income tax to the fed to take responsibility for their own lives? Those who pay payroll tax, state/local tax, sales tax...often amounting to a total % of their income greater than or equal to what Romney himself pays? The elderly factor those numbers there etc...I don't know what topic it was in but I just had this discussion maybe a week or two ago on this very board...It is the most over stated GOP meme there is.. it's what his fundraisers/donor class want to hear so it's fair that he said it there and it is no secret to those who follow politics and understand the GOP's primary mission...not debt or spending but taxes...not a cent more for the donor class and 4% increase over 250K is communist. But anyway...I digress from my liberal propaganda...it's just not presidential to have this go public and the reason it isn't presidential is b/c it's a stupid thing to go around saying. Wealth inequality, opportunity inequality (which btw exists here more than most modern countries)...it's a problem we have. We don't need leadership that just looks at 47% of the population as people that won't take responsibility for themselves. It's ridiculous to say this is fair. There are, without a doubt, problems with the what we are doing (and have been doing for decades) to address these issues...but the sentiment he's selling to donors here isn't it. Anyway, I also actually think it's fair b/c he's hobnobbing with some fat cats for money which is what happens by anyone raising money. And of course he'll adjust his tone to the audience (unless it's the NAACP hehe)...but the bottom line is this isn't a great thing for a presidential candidate to say. And the fact that now (as with everything Romney does) a huge portion of the country must get behind it and defend/champion it...that's bad for the country.

I think that just might get you over the hump to win the electoral college

Let's focus on the parts you agree on since this is rare. What sounds good in there to you?

High speed rail is long term, but it is not garbage. An infrastructure (at least when I use it in conversation) includes things like domestic energy innovation and a smart grid to make it work, health IT, retrofits (which should be a bipartisan no-brainer b/c it basically costs nothing)...things that will put us in a better spot for the next few decades that we can start right now. Do you look at history and just cringe?

Everyone knows you wait until interest rates go back up before you address some infrastructure issues that will come either way. This guy is a fool

I can't be all places at once. Keep 'em honest Rob Bro we don't need a modern infrastructure or more educated work force to dominate next century and teachers/local workers are not real jobs. Green energy is a hoax too btw...just Obama hitting up his donors. We simply need the free market, uninhibited by taxes of any kind. Pick up a book.

thanks for clearing that one up whoo

I'm sorry can you provide a source for this opinion? (i kid btw, i kid, no need to go conserva-hulk)

"America is going to hell, literally falling apart, b/c of Obama" ...people don't realize why they sound ridiculous when they say this...idk why not

In all honesty almost half of B-Mans posts are him reposting conservative opinion pieces...I don't say anything but it's funny to hear someone else say it. Hehe. You'll literally be talking about something, maybe a few people post articles that certainly have some opinion but also site some data or something then B-Man comes in and posts his pasted conservative opinion w/ parts emboldened that he finds to be heaving hitting (which is usually the funniest part). Love you B-man...just laughing with you. Anyway, Romney comes off very poorly in the leaked video it can't possibly help him.

I find it more funny that Tate didn't break his neck launching like that

Golden Tate

Romney is a pretty "meh" candidate there really is no doubt about that and most repub backers would have admitted it until the primary started wrapping up. But the true problem with Romney's campaign is simple....the current state of the Republican party. It really is that simple. They're in an tough situation running under that banner as it is configured right now. In any event...it's fun to hear about and dissect campaigns b/c we all like politics but these sort of stories are of limited importance.

We'll see about the QB long term. Hope you are correct

Loved the win today but I still think the smart money is on Bills simply being a lousy team. But we'll see...love for the smart money to be dumb.

We should be talking about multiple MVPs and hall of fame by now

Ok you are right I'm sorry. Mario has been phenominal what was I thinking.

I have a good connection and it was good today...it sucked last week...just a coin flip I guess.

Just saying dude...you don't have to have such Mario-mania all the time. He's been solid, he hasn't been amazing...and you can rationalize that anyway you want but those are the facts. And I'm not saying he won't have big games or that we shouldn't have picked him up...simply saying what has happened.

Honestly Mario was no more impressive than any other DLman today. Not bad, but not really good.

I'm in this league and have the worst team auto-pick could have possibly drafted for me. IDK who has all the RBs but if someone has good depth and wants Foster and is willing to put together some sort of deal for him where I end up better for it I'll do it.

I think you are making my point for me. Unless we're now adding preventing Muslims from becoming offended to POTUS duty