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1 hour ago, HOUSE said:
Another woman looking for quick easy cash.
Shocking 😲
If you were there and know what happened, please contact the police.
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21 hours ago, Gunsgoodtime said:
This list, plus Terrence McGee imo. What a joy it was watching him return kicks, he was also a great cb
Is my memory failing me? Wasn't McGee the CB who would blanket receivers but let them catch the ball anyway?
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I wouldn't want to see OJ's face anywhere anymore, but I'll mention he did kick returns his rookie year and bit afterwards, finishing his career with an impressive 30 yards per return average.
And I think Pete Gogolak deserves a mention just because he's the guy who popularized soccer style kicking in the NFL. After playing for the Bills, he went to the Giants and remains to this day their leading all-time scorer. For the youngsters in the cheap seats, before Gogolak NFL kickers would approach the ball straight on.
But I agree with the OP, Tasker, Pike, and Moorman are all obvious choices. I'm not sure who I'd add after that. Bobby April is a good option if we're considering coaches too.
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Mini Max Anderson... I was 9 or 10 watching what may have been my very first Bills game and Mini Max got hurt. One of the announcers said he swallowed his tongue.
The concept freaked me out and I ran to my mother and asked if that was even possible. For years, I was afraid of swallowing my tongue. -
I'd probably go if I wasn't 2700 miles away.
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I remember this game. Then again, how could you forget something like this.
What was weird is that this was when our offense was on fire so you'd expect if we did something spectacular with scoring it would be because of Kelly & the Boys. This was (almost) all defense and ST.
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9 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:
Unless you're a perennial All pro.. I think the line between good and great is squarely the scheme and the people around you
If we put the right people around ed he will be great..
When we get thin and he's forced to play the one technique he gets banged up and he's not as effective
Somebody like Kyle Williams could be good to great depending on his scheme and the people around him throughout the course of his career.. but he had some help... Marcus Stroud was a former pro bowler, Marcel Dareus was all pro... Mario Williams was collapsing the pocket
When the line was just Kyle Williams he's not as effective tho he was still the same guy
Ed needs a true 1T to take pressure off of him.. because if he doesn't he's forced to play it.. because he's a beast.. but he's not big enough to withstand that punishment throughout a whole NFL season
DL is one of the position groups I'll watch most in preseason (along with the WR group) because I'm excited for it, but anxious and uncertain too.
I get the Kyle analogy and hope this season proves you right about Ed.
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3 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:
Rankings are subjective and purely opinion
But Oliver is a damn fine football player... And so is Greg.. and so is hoecht and bosa
Not to mention our potential guys in relief
I'm not putting an arbitrary number on it but watch hoecht become a fan favorite very quickly
For me both Oliver and Rousseau are at the good-not-great level. After that things get interesting.
Bosa could return to his former glory. Or he could spend the season on IR. Who knows?
I never watched Hoecht very much, but I know that he's a very smart and versatile player who can play DE, DT, and LB. That means when he's on the field, the offense doesn't necessarily know what defensive alignment we're in, assuming we switch him around. He could be an interesting X factor.Ogunjobi seems like he could be a good depth piece though PFF only graded him a 49.4 last season.
And then there's the rookies.
If everyone is as good as we hope, this will be the best DL we've had in a while. But if our fears materialize (Bosa is hurt, the rookies play like rookies, Hoecht's versatility is misused, Ogunjobi deserves his 40s PFF score, etc.), then our entire defense will struggle. I'm hoping for the best but right now it all feels iffy to me.
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6 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
Thats a rank list. Texans #4??? They might have the worst pair of starting dtackles in football. They have great edge rushers, sure, but they are awful inside.
Similarly the Lions... sure they have Hutch. The DTs are serviceable starters but nothing more at this stage and Davenport isn't even that.
And the Bills have two proven good players and two question marks.
Bad list.
And no great players, unless they're weirdly looking at Bosa as a 17-game player in the prime of his career?
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4 hours ago, Ned Flanders said:
Bills did win a wildcard game in 1981 at the Jets.
Oops. I'm drawing a blank and embarrassed to say that I don't remember that game.
Mostly what I remember from the late 60s until Kelly is a lot of losing. OJ's gridiron brilliance was the big bright spot for me - I loved watching that man run - but of course that was unredeemably tarnished by his later behavior.
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10 hours ago, Mike in Horseheads said:
Bills made the playoffs in 66, 74,80,81
I know. But still, the long period after our brief AFL glory was mostly characterized by misery.
From 1967 to 1987, we went something like 118-196-3 (.377) and were 0-3 in the playoffs. Despite a few moderately good years, I think it's fair to call that extended period of time the Bills Dark Ages. Kelly and company were the Rennaissance and that was an exciting time.
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1 hour ago, RangerDave said:
I won $100,000 once. I spent half of it on booze and women. The rest, I just wasted....
When I was a broke college kid, a friend won $17,000 in an injury lawsuit and wanted to buy me something. I refused to accept his generosity at first. It just seemed wrong that I should benefit from his injury.
But he explained, "You know I'm going to blow this money on stupid sh*t in less than a week, anyway. You might as well have something to show for it because I won't."
I let him buy me a genuine Wilson NFL football.
I hope the 100k bought you some good memories but with the booze, maybe it didn't.
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48 minutes ago, balln said:
I find this interesting actually
beanes an emotional dude. It is what it is. Starting to come through more and more as time goes on. In the beginning it’s endearing and welcomed change of vigor
but with each passing year of not getting it done (beating chiefs or getting to a Super Bowl) he’s starting to be too emotional
and that’s my biggest gripe with this org. They’re too culture centrric. Everybody believes. And loves each other. It affects their draft picks and priorities in offseason. And it affects their contracts.
Delta Force is culture-centric. It doesn't seem to affect their selection process or priorities in any kind of negative way. Being culture-centric isn't a problem; it's a strength.
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The old timers will appreciate this game more than the youngsters because we lived through some rough years before this game.
The Bills won the AFL championship in 1964 and 1965 and then sucked for the next 20+ years. We didn't win comebacks. We let other teams win them.Then this happened. It was like a sign from God: this was a different Bills team. This team was going to the Super Bowl.
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I swear on some of those deep passes, Fitz didn't throw to designed spot as much as he threw it up for grabs and trusted/hoped Stevie would find a way to get under it.
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Well done.
Ultimately, all these things are subjective. What you decided to measure, how you weighed things, your scoring system, etc. means this is opinion, not science.
But still cool, especially with Josh on top.
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Every weekend, I run/hike with the puppy anywhere from 9 to 18 miles in the mountains of Northern California. And every time I do, something hurts, whether it's my feet, ankles, knees, quads, or whatever.
If I were a professional athlete, they'd call my pains "injuries." I'd get examined, treated, and put on a recovery plan. But since I'm just an old nobody, I keep running without labeling or treating them.
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5 hours ago, FireChans said:
At some point, this pipeline has to age out of the league. It's been almost 10 years!
I get the joke but...
A lot of players, especially the marginal ones who get signed in the spring, bounce from team to team. So while the Panthers only account for roughly 3% of the players in the NFL at any given time, the number of players who once were on Carolina's roster is roughly (I'm guessing) 10% of the league. With a spring roster of 90 guys, we should expect about 9 ex-Panthers on the Bills at this time of year.
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20 hours ago, MasterStrategist said:
Speaking of 2nd halves, this Coach you b-word about happened to give up just 11 points and forced 2 punts to start the 3rd qtr--- this was just this year.
This is after Benford went down, and we're already down Rapp and Taron banged up. On top of a DL that has shed Phillips, Von, Jefferson, Smoot, Rasul - and Elam traded for a bag of footballs. This was an average talented defense, at best. 2 boundary CBs who played entire 2nd half, won't be playing much this year.
I'd say our defense did what it needed in 2nd half- Benford going down was too much to overcome. Our offense came out flat, and just didnt make the plays we needed down the stretch.
There's a reason our offseason was dedicated to finding more talent on defense- people love to hate on McD, when have we had legitimate talented defense? Seems to me, he has covered up a lot of flaws - that tend to get exposed against better QBs. Talent is the ultimate differentiator, I'd say Philly can attest to that
Agreed wholeheartedly.
Our beginning-of-the-year roster always has notable holes. Injuries then make the roster worse. Still, McD generally gets good production out of our battered defensive players. Until the playoffs, when good coaching can't compensate when faced with equally good coaching and better rosters.
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My ideas are vague because it's hard to get into the heads of McD, Babich, and Brady.
Offense. I think Brady wants to grow and evolve. I think he's probably generally happy with the run/pass mix and the run game in general. I think Hawes is interesting because Brady clearly likes putting big blockers out in front of his backs which might give Hawes some playing time.
I think Brady's big hope is to create a more dynamic, chunk-play offense. I think we'll see more from Samuel and Kincaid, obviously, because they'll (hopefully) be healthy this year. I think Brady will try to get Moore involved to use his quickness & speed. He'll have more yards receiving this year than last because he fills a niche on the Bills. I hope for a better screen game but don't expect it. I think Palmer has a typical Palmer year - good but not special.
Defense. I think it'll be much like any other year with slight differences. I think, inevitably, we'll see rookies getting more playing time than usual. I think there will be more of a focus on stopping the run but certainly not an abandonment of the nickel as the base D. I wouldn't be surprised if we blitz more. I'm interested to see if they do anything unconventional with Hoecht as a hybrid DE/LB.-
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1 hour ago, Bray Wyatt said:
I just find it interesting that per their own stats and rankings he is higher than what they chose to rate him.
Didn't they do the same thing with Josh? He's rated #1 over the past four years, if I recall correctly, but projected 4th going into this season.
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5 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:
Should've been MVP and was in my book. Just like Josh should've been last year.
Sure, maybe. You could make a good argument. But that offense was loaded. Hurts had a great year and the receiving corps was one of the best, so it made it challenging for defenses to focus on Barkley (or anyone else).
As for his excellent yardage totals, obviously Barkley played more games that than the all-time greats like Jim Brown, OJ, and Walter Payton. Additionally, today's defenses are built to defend the pass. Teams nowadays play nickel (i.e. what used to be called "pass prevent") most of the time and LBs are primarily agile coverage guys not the bestial hunter-killers of the past like Chuck Bednarik, Dick Butkus, and Jack Lambert.
I also think the voters finally realized Josh has been one of the most valuable players in the league for a few years and him not getting the award yet was a travesty. For me, all things considered, Josh deserved being named MVP.
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7 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:
I feel like this is a thing parents tell their kids for some reason that has absolutely no evidence of being true in reality. From every example I've seen both those directly involving me directly and those involving others, admitting guilt almost never proves to be a beneficial choice. Not only do you guarantee punishment, but your public perception is damaged forever. Not once in my entire life have I ever heard a person say, well, he [did poorly perceived thing], but because he admitted it I'll stand in his corner.
Deflect, Deny, Deflect to the bitter end unless you're getting a hell of a deal to do otherwise. When you refuse to admit guilt, you get several benefits. 1. You can potentially evade punishment. 2. some people will believe you or will be skeptical enough to not want you crucified for it, and related to that, your legacy is nowhere near as stained as if you admit it in the first place which can have sever implications both reputational and financial.I have a different viewpoint. As an Army officer, I once took an oath to not lie, cheat, or steal; nor tolerate those who do. To paraphrase Kant's 'categorical imperative' a bit: we should all act in a way that we would want everyone to act. And the world would be a better place if none of us lied, cheated, or stole.
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On 5/30/2025 at 10:12 AM, Mr. WEO said:
Then he's the dumbest guy in the NFL and shouldn't be on the roster for that reason.
Everyone who has gotten caught the past 10 years has claimed this. For this reason, it's just not a credible defense. No player would simply take something some trainer or what not handed him and said, "don't worry, it's ok". Most of these guys can read, so, if they were really not sure what was in the drugs they were given, they could easily find out. Why would they leave their fate in the hands of some pusher? Accepting responsibility isn't accomplished by blaming someone else (who is this person he's blaming anyway?).
It's just not believable he didn't know what he put in his body. Zero point zero chance.
Three things...
First, we should never underestimate the gullibility of football players. Remember when Manti Te'o of Notre Dame said on national TV that his girlfriend died on the same day as his grandma? But later it was discovered poor Manti was the victim of a catfishing scam and his online gf never existed? Players believe dumb things sometimes.
Second, I believe in the America value of the presumption of innocence. The reason everyone caught doping says they didn't know is because it's plausible. Some athletes don't know; some pretend they didn't know. Maybe a respected trainer or older veteran (not a sneaky lowlife "pusher") gave Hoecht some supps. In any case, I've seen so many people suffer from false accusations that I choose to give people the benefit of the doubt when there is no/little track record of misbehavior.Third, many supps include unlisted ingredients. You suggest that Hoecht should have read the label. But one published study found that of 3,132 dietary supplements examined, 875 (28%) had undeclared substances including anabolic steroids. and sibutramine.
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9054437/
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Optimistic vs Realistic Expectations
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I love the OP's confidence. His realistic prediction is we get to the SB. His optimistic prediction is we win it.
My optimistic hope is we win but my realistic prediction is that we sadly bow out in the playoffs again. I'm not convinced were the best team in the AFC though I do think this team's roster may prove better than last year's. We'll see.