I_want_2_BILL_Lieve
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6 minutes ago, Augie said:
I’ve hired many, many people....and sometimes if you know who you want and you can get him you jump. Now, is he the right guy? Time will tell. Don’t drag it out and fail to get your top guy. Sometimes the process is shorter than others.
I get that. But I guess what I'm asking is what specifically does McBeane see in the guy? What was it that made him the Choice that we had to get that guy? Saying two future hall of fame guys groomed him is good enough for me, but is it good enough for McBeane? I don't think so. Two weeks ago I doubt most here knew he existed. So was it that magical second quarter of adjustments in the Championship game?
I'm in no way knocking the decision. Again, I just want to be a fly on the wall when this all went down. What were the points of discussion?
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I'm curious. Was this the only guy interviewed? Who interviewed him? I'm just wondering about the timeline. This is clearly their guy, but I'm curious about the 'process' that went from, " we need to think about the OC, to 'here's our guy'."
I'm always interested in the thought process of this kind of decision. What is it that so enamored him to OBD?
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2 minutes ago, PolishDave said:
Why is everyone giving him credit for that call? Wasn't it Saban who made that decision?
almost certainly it was. But do you think the OC had game planned for that? If he did, that's great coaching for contingencies. If he didn't, that's great coaching on the fly, knowing what works for this skill set of players.
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Forty-one pages in....
Being a Bills fan every hire is important. When you're in the middle of a playoff drought, new hires and drafts are all we had to hang our hat on.
The part of the "process" that I am hanging my hat on is consistency. We've gone through head coach after head coach (not to mention OCs and DCs), changing back and forth between 3-4s, and 4-3s, Power run schemes vs WCO. We're never stable. We draft players that don't fit in 2 years. I hope the current regime is successful enough to stick around to build upon success.
I'm encouraged by the hire. He seems to be well regarded by coaches I respect and yet loath. So I'll go with that. I want successful stability.
Someone mentioned up thread that Alabama fans are glad to see him go. Really? One loss in the toughest division in college football, a national championship and they are ready to kick him to the curb?
One thing I'll be looking for: in game adjustments. The Bills absolutely sucked in the second half. Going with the Freshman QB in the 2nd half of a Championship game was ballsy.
Too much to ask for?
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Sometimes I'd watch a game I had no interest in just to listen to him call it.
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I gotta tell you. I don't know what a catch is anymore. I sit here watching the game on my big HD screen, going over the replay in slow motion, and my option winds up being different from the NY office. It's just too inconsistent.
More importantly, if the league office can't make a call in about a minute, the play should stand as called. A few weeks ago in the Buff-NE game the Benjamin catch was overturned after what seemed to be at least 5 minutes of review. That's too long. It leads me to believe that the league is LOOKING to overturn a call on the field. That's should not what it was designed for.
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2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
So in a situation where people want to Bills to trade up to #3 or #4:
#4 takes both 2017 1sts and one of our 2nds.
#3 takes both 2017 1sts and either both 2nds or our 2018 1st in all likelihood.
That is too rich for me unless Rosen is still somehow sitting in the green room.
This is reasonable. How much for who's there. If McBean is convinced X is our guy, and he's still there. Then yeah. I'm OK with #4. But the QB position is always over-drafted. But you have to until you find your guy.
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11 minutes ago, NewEraBills said:
Cleveland is not trading this time man. I'm not sure why people think they will but they set themselves up for this EXACT scenario. Unless they pay Cousins, they are taking Darnold or Rosen at 1. Believe it. Nobody is going to do the Bills favors and pass on a franchise QB when they set themselves up for this just because Bills fans are desperate for a QB (and I'm not saying we shouldn't want one, because we should).
You're right. They wont trade out of #1.
But I think Cleveland's #4 overall is in play. By trading with the Bills (our 2 #1 plus change if necessary), they really get to address other areas of need twice.
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9 minutes ago, NewEraBills said:
I'm sorry but when you have multiple games where your defense is 29th in run defense; your QB is the 3rd most sacked in the league because your OL is 31st in pass protection something is amiss and it ain't just the QB.
Again, this is about building a roster. A QB is definitely A PART of that.
We also had a TE be our leading receiver with just over 500 yards. A QB that throws with anticipation lowers the sack total. I think that those are on the QB. And by the way, I like TT. But you and I disagree on how to build a team.
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15 minutes ago, NewEraBills said:
I think you're reading way too much into that. This roster has holes up and down and the cupboard needs to be stocked. That's the reason for the trading last year. They are trying to build a COMPLETE, competitive roster. You don't do that by selling all your picks for 1 guy.
Every roster has holes. Injuries and free agency see to that.
I don't think anyone is interested in "selling all your picks." But if the Bills were sold on a guy being a career top 10 QB, then yeah I'm OK with trading 2 #1s and possibly a #2 for that guy. QB is that only position I'd do that for. By the way, we're not devoid of talent. Nine wins was far more than most thought we'd get.
Just our 2 #1s give us just around 1500 points in the Draft Trade Chart.That gets us into around the 7th pick. See who's there, and who wants to deal. and Use 'em. We've been wandering the desert since Kelly left. It's time for a real franchise QB to lead us for a good 10 -15 years.
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18 minutes ago, maryland-bills-fan said:
Are you sure about that? My impression is that the "plan" was to first improve the overall quality of the team by getting a lot of draft picks in the top 3 rounds. So we traded away some veteran and good quality Bills to pick up younger players who would mature and reach their peak together. I don't recall that the trading back was mean to supply ammunition for a swoop up for a QB. Did I miss something that you can quote?
I think it was pretty much common knowledge that this years draft was QB deep. Was it THE plan or was it one of many potential outcomes? I don't know. I do know the organizations was not sold on TT, and most experts had us at 4-6 wins. I think we were planning ahead and going for a qb this year.
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25 minutes ago, ROONDOGG55 said:
Bills brass won't mortgage the future as they've stated time and again that they will build for now and the future. So, in my eyes the most logical move for them is to trade the two 1st round picks to get up to 7 or 8. with the trade value chart (http://www.ourlads.com/nfldraftvalue/) both of their picks combined are 1520 points while 7 (Bucs) and 8 (Bears) are worth 1500 and 1400. My guess is that the Bucs and Bears would want a little more especially if we're in a bidding war with another team. Trading up to 6 would almost certainly be too steep of a price with it being the Jets, and I doubt we would give up additional picks to move up into the top 5.
This is where I am.
I love TT as a person, but he's not the guy. I wish he was.
In the coming draft, if the Bills believe X is the guy, get THE guy. We have the ammo to move up. Trading back in last years draft was specifically for the purpose of moving up this year. So was the Darby trade for a 2nd rounder. Now is the time to move up. As mentioned above, we can trade up for a QB and still have a decent amount of picks left to fill out the roster. I expect such a move to cost both #1s. If I have to toss in an additional #2 OR a #3, then I'm OK with that too.
I am not in the "we're close, so sign a veteran free agent qb and fill our other needs in the draft" camp. In any case, the free agency period will be very telling this year.
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43 minutes ago, H2o said:
Benjamin is 6'5", 240lbs, and has an 83" wingspan. On top of that he still managed to run a 4.53 40 time. Not only is he a deep threat, but he has a catch radius of about 13 ft. That's like giving Tyrod a Chevy Silverado to throw the ball at.
He's a big dude alright. I don't regard a 4.53 time as fast. At his size, he'll be slow off the line, but he's long strider, so his straight ahead speed will build. Also, being that big, I doubt he's a shifty route runner.
Still, I think he'll be a great addition. 'you know what i'm sayin'
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How do people feel about bundling our 2 first round picks (and possibly a 2nd rounder) for a top tier QB? I think most people thought this was a given at the start of the season.
Or do you prefer to take a second level QB with one of our first round picks and groom him behind TT hoping he pans out?
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QB, HB, WR, OG, DT, CB
I'd move HB to the end of this list, making it a 3rd or 4th round pick, but yeah. LB needs to be on this list too.
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I'm not exactly sure what more I could expect from the Pegulas. First of all the both the Sabres and Bills are here. Both teams were were in limbo for a while. No one is worried about the Bills moving in the near future.
The Pagulas have spent lots of money helping to upgrade the city of Buffalo. The green space at the waterfront is beautiful.
They seem to have a philosophy of giving each organization what it needs to succeed. From this mornings BN:
"The Sabres are using the two-rink pad at HarborCenter to their advantage. They are skating for 45 minutes on the auxiliary rink before immediately moving to the main rink for another 45 minutes.
"It's an advantage that we have over other teams," Housley said. "We get to utilize our resources here at the HarborCenter. I just like it. The execution's much better. The puck sits flatter. Guys look faster, and they are faster because of the fresh ice. We're going to utilize that a lot this year. "
Finally, they are not afraid to admit their mistakes and move on. How many guys are getting paid NOT to work for the Pegulas? Murray, Bylsma, Whaley, Ryan.
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As always, great stuff Astro! Welcome back.
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The one thing that bothered me was that our receivers had 0 YAC. TE and RBs on short passes did OK. But reviewers ran either come back routes or down and outs close to the sideline. In either case, no chance for a big play from guys who are supposed to make big plays.
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Noooooooooo!
You've become the first link I open in the morning. Love your reports.
Enjoy the family!
<wondering what I'll do now in the AM>
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I seem to recall he was challenged to a swim race by one of the younger Bills and smoked 'em.
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In my experience it was Bills > Giants > Steelers and then the rest was just too few to consider
I would agree with this.
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Astro, you are on my must read list. I look forward to your posts after every practice. Thank you!
F5....F5....F5...
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Ice is a respected Packers fan.
I'll bite.
Right now i would predict being swept by the pack.
Us sweeping the Bears
A split with the Vikings and I'm not sure of the Lions. Let's say a split there too.
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This has to be the earliest all of the picks have been signed.
What no drama? No acrimonious holdouts?
This is not the Bills I know.
Why not Sam Bradford??
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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I read here that some people want a FA QB and keep our picks. I'm of the opposite opinion. I'd trade picks (within reason of course) and draft a quality QB. The money saved on a FA QB, could be used to bring in quality FAs across the board. $20-25 mill for Cousins, think how many quality FAs we could bring in with that money. And these would be known, NFL quality players, not untested rookies.
I'd rather be set at the QB position for 10-15 years. That means drafting our guy. And yes, I know, drafting QBs is inherently risky. But we're set up pretty well to do it this year.