Chandemonium
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48 minutes ago, BillStime said:
But how they doing bruh? Winning?
While this meme intends to portray the conservatives as dumb poor folk who vote against their self interest trope, if as a culture we were more concerned with being rich than looking rich, we’d have a lot of debt free millionaires living like this.
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5 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:
Well actually, stop really means check all directions for conflicting traffic, both vehicular and pedestrian, before proceeding. If you can do that before physically coming to a complete stop then you're all good! It's just too many words to fit on the sign and it would require a higher understanding of the English language than STOP, which would further oppress immigrants - legal or otherwise.
No, that’s what yield means. Stop means stop.
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40 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:
In all seriousness, this scares me. We have an armed insurrection denouncing the US, claiming US territory as their own, and patrolling the border with armed troops. At what point does this escalate to the point of military intervention? It seems it would have to at some point, but as soon as that happens I don’t see how a full on nationwide shooting war isn’t far behind.
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4 minutes ago, Motorin' said:
And yet many proponents of disbanding want to then reconstituted police departments under community policing standards.
Then they should come out and say that, instead of beating around the bush and being unable to answer simple questions about who will respond to home invasions or active shooter situations.
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21 minutes ago, Jaraxxus said:
defund
verbde·fund | \ (ˌ)dē-ˈfənd\defunded; defunding; defundsDefinition of defund
: to withdraw funding from
That's the meaning of defund. Not what Black Lives Matter says it means.I could buy the argument that the definition does not say to withdraw all funding from, if defund and disband weren’t being used interchangeably by the proponents of these ideas.
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32 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:
But first he has to go borrow his dad’s hunting rifle.
It’s comedy gold.
Who’s going to point out to him that under the left’s universal background checks they want to enact, that would be considered an illegal firearm transfer?
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9 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:
Phone in the right hand, what appeared to be a police helmet in the left hand. I rewatched after your post and I didn't see anything that indicated an "reach" toward an officer's service weapon. That said, I appreciate that I watched it from a distance and that there is a remote possibility that the officer in question might have seen the movement only out of the corner of his eye and reacted accordingly.
Also, I'm not concerned about not putting the flex cuffs on the guy. The point is that if he actually presented a threat to officer safety you'd think the police would have neutralized that threat instead of stepping past him. That part doesn't wash with me.
He clearly reaches out with his right hand at approximately waist height. I’m not saying he was making a play for the gun, in fact it seems like he probably wasn’t since he still had the phone, I’m just saying the cops can’t afford to have that same line of thinking and be wrong in a situation like that.
My point is that it’s pretty clear that he no longer presents a threat when the guy is laying there in the fencing position literally bleeding out his ears. If you can’t see that we’ll have to agree to disagree I guess.
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4 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:
Do you know if the body cameras have sound?
I do not. I have a background in recognizing and assessing risk behaviors so my analysis is from that perspective, but I’m a layperson when it comes to the law enforcement world.
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29 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:
They didn't know he was unconscious immediately. If he was such a threat, he should have been zip tied.
For what it's worth, it looks like he was trying to return a helmet to the BPD.
They knew he was unconscious by the time they had a chance to cuff him. The first time I watched it I was more concerned that no one stopped to render aid than that they didn’t slap a pair of flex cuffs on a guy who was out cold. However, it’s been said that the medical response was better than it appeared in the video, and those guys have access to mechanical restraint devices as well if needed.
I’m certainly not suggesting the guy had any ill intent, but he was nevertheless exhibiting certain behavioral cues that cops can’t ignore, for their own safety. I will say that I watched it again and I did not see the object (phone?) in the hand that he reached out with the first time I saw it. That certainly makes it seem less likely he was making a play for the officer’s gun, but even still in the moment that’s not a risk the officers can take.-
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6 hours ago, SectionC3 said:
The last paragraph is victim blaming. Sorry but it is. The citizen probably shouldn’t have been there, but that doesn’t justify what happened. (Audio may tell a different tale, but I highly doubt it since the citizen was left in place after falling. A threat would have been neutralized there.)
6 hours ago, SectionC3 said:Problem is that the use of force has to be justified. I just don’t see it there. If the guy was threatening officers he should have been dealt with immediately after he fell to resolve the threat.
6 hours ago, SectionC3 said:Marty Lyons retired a long time ago!
The medics got there pretty quickly. I don’t blame them for not breaking the line to treat. But if he was an aggressor they should have neutralized him with cuffs or restraint. Not a good look for the BPD.
As far as if it was justified, what I saw was the guy making a beeline for an advancing line of police in crowd control mode, which shows questionable judgement and is sure to put the officers even more on edge in an already tense situation, but the officers don’t put hands on him until he reaches out toward the belt/holster area on one of them. If you make a move like that, officers don’t have the luxury of thinking “he’s probably not going for my gun” and not acting because being wrong can be deadly, no matter the age or physical condition of the person in question. They push him away and he’s unable to keep his balance. The result is sickening to watch, but If he stayed on his feet or even fell differently, there would be no conversation about if the level of force used here was justified.
I don’t understand your point about neutralizing him after he fell. Threats don’t get much more neutralized than being unconscious.
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3 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said:
I don't see any laughing. ?♂️
Lots of "stay home" responses. Hey, that is what we were told for the covid "crisis," same should apply here.
How exactly does one “actively pass out?”
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9 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:
Rubio's been terrible today. Which is why he was tabbed to be the new head of the intel committee.
Telegram ?
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On 5/17/2020 at 7:33 PM, B-Man said:
Washington Post Writer: We Can’t Beat The Virus Because Americans Stubbornly Love Their Freedom Too Much
From the excerpt of the WaPo article referenced in the link:
But even a technically sound program is useless without widespread consent. And obtaining such consent “would require a major reduction in our liberties and a prolonged period of increased surveillance,” as journalist Stephen Bush points out. Will Americans accept those reductions willingly and quickly enough to implement an effective testing regimen? It’s hard to imagine.
In countries with successful testing programs, the relationship of citizens to the government differs from that of the United States in important respects. According to a 2018 Gallup poll, Germans are almost twice as likely as Americans (59 percent vs. 31 percent) to have confidence in government. This may help explain Germans’ greater willingness to comply with testing regimens and mask-wearing guidelines
two things jump out here:
1) consent that requires surveillance and reduction in liberties is not consent at all.
2) history shows that German confidence in government and willingness to comply is not something to be lauded.
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1 hour ago, B-Man said:
That’s not correctThe transport vans for our seniors ( capacity 10-15) have to be cleaned every day after being used to and from or Center.
I’m sure it’s a NYS Regulation.
and we’ve been open for 12 yearsIt’s possible that a van operated by a senior center or the like has different regulations than the mass transit system used by the general public.
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13 minutes ago, Kemp said:
Drivers licenses mandated? No way in hell. Slippery slope.
Optional? Do as you like.No one is forced to get a drivers license, and having one is not a requirement to go out in public. So yes, optional exactly like drivers licenses are.
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58 minutes ago, Foxx said:
This is why I have automatic updates turned off.
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55 minutes ago, GG said:
The ad was meant for the governors not to get trigger happy to mandate closing meat processing plants. So far, meat processors are at 75% capacity, which is perfectly workable with the restaurant industry shut down. There's little risk of shortages at this point, unless people start panic buying. I don't see that happening, because most people don't have the proper storage to keep a lot of perishable food.
A chicken wholesaler near me has started doing direct to customer sales to offset some of their lost business from restaurants. They announce a location, you drive up to the reefer truck, and they load it in your car. It’s dirt cheap compared to the grocery store, but the catch is you have to buy it in 40 lb case quantities. I have a chest freezer so I went this morning and stocked up just in case the supply chain takes continued hits from plant closures.
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Let’s say you’re an average Joe who converted home heat from heating oil to natural gas a few years ago, but you still have a couple 500 gallon oil tanks in your basement. With oil prices at negative $38, is there any way you can call up the oil company and tell them to come drop off 1000 gallons of crude and $900?
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2 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:
I was asleep when it started. The banging woke me up. I ran downstairs and used my "man" voice to ask him what the F he wanted (in more colorful language) and the guy took off. My guess is that he either saw my girl on our porch from outside and assumed she was alone/easy target and the sound of a second person inside changed his calculus. She got his description, we gave it to the cops (I didn't get a visual, he was gone by the time I got to the door) but she didn't think he lived in our building.
Yesterday afternoon!
My s/o prefers knives, so she ordered a 9 inch bowie knife. I tried to point out that using an edged weapon in a pandemic isn't as safe as a ranged weapon -- but she already committed.
An edged weapon can be a ranged weapon with some practice, although I’m guessing a 9 inch Bowie would make an awkward thrower.
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27 minutes ago, LB3 said:
Can you buy any phone without Google installed prior to purchase?
Landline phones, and I think there’s still a couple companies making old school flip phones that just have talk and text. They probably still have GPS tracking software though.
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2 hours ago, Gary Busey said:
That part of the Tweet does not matter but you can blame whoever the hell you want. Test, test, and test some more is my position on this.
I never said I blamed or didn’t blame anyone, I just don’t follow the logic of the tweet.
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14 minutes ago, Gary Busey said:
Still not testing near enough.
If the Virus in the first case to hit the area with the most severe outbreak in the US came from a strain that had already traveled from China to Europe and mutated, wouldn’t that be evidence that the China travel ban was effective, and his “victory lap” is justified? Otherwise the first case would be the Chinese strain.
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On 4/6/2020 at 12:54 PM, Buffalo_Gal said:
It’s like if Ricky from Trailer Park Boys was running for president, only not funny.
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5 minutes ago, Magox said:
Not surprising, it’s the most populous area of the state. What are you seeing? In regards to traffic and restaurants etc?I haven’t been out much the past few weeks as I’ve been working from home and buying 2 weeks worth of supplies at a time when I do go out. I work for the public school system and school closures were announced for my county the afternoon of March 13 right before dismissal time. By the end of that weekend it was extended to the entire state. Restaurants went take out only around the same time, state parks and some non-essential businesses were closed shortly thereafter, and the list of nonessential businesses ordered closed has been growing since. We’ve been under many of the same restrictions and sometimes more than other states with so called stay at home or shelter in place orders, our governor has just been reluctant to call it that until today.
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Breonna Taylor's murders are still free (THIS IS THE POINT)
in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
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Rand Paul introduces bill banning no knock warrants
I don’t see how the officers in the Breonna Taylor case could be reasonably charged with or convicted of a crime. From my understanding of the case, they had a legally obtained warrant and were at the correct address. The failure here was the policy which allowed them to serve that warrant by breaking in in plain clothes unannounced in the middle of the night. Ms. Taylor’s boyfriend, believing the home was being broken into by violent criminals acted the same way any of us who own firearms for personal protection would and shot at the intruders, and the police, who were there on legitimate police business with a valid warrant acted the same way they would in any other situation where they are taking fire from a suspect and shot back, resulting in Ms. Taylor’s death. It’s a tragic situation, but to me the actions of both Ms. Taylor’s boyfriend and the officers who returned fire appear justified based on their own perspectives and knowledge of the situation in the moment. Hopefully Mr. Paul’s legislation is able to gain enough bipartisan support to prevent these situations in the future.