garbag3man
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I don't think that Fitz is the franchise QB, or our guy to get us to the promise land. That being said, this game (and his 11/4 TD/Pick ratio and 103 QB Rating) has me not opposed to looking later in the draft for a QB. I wouldn't be against spending 6 of our 8 picks on guys who are no less than 300 LB, and a Kellen Moore/Christian Ponder (I know I was making fun of FSU QB's earlier) type player.
Fact of the matter is, we aren't one offseason away from a playoff 2011, but if we address the defense and allow Fitz to be a game manager, and throw up a few games like this week, we could have a competitive 2011 and have a promising QB learning the game/system for a year.
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Actually thought Whitner's drop was the key play of the game. Could have put us up 3 touchdowns.
Can't fault him too much, because he had 3 TD's but Lee dropped a pass down the right sideline with not a single person in front of him for a 55 Yd TD that would have been another big one to have.
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Well, fwiw, I learned that there is still some housecleaning to do on this team, some of the youngest players need to step up more, but I also learned that there are some players on this team. The needed overhaul is not as daunting as it seemed only a couple of weeks ago.
It's still about linebackers.
It's still about a pass rush.
More than anything, the idea that we need a defensive leader (LB or D Line) to step up was cemented in my head when (this was my first B-More game live) I watched Ray Lewis come out of the tunnel. He just oozes leadership and motivation, and you saw it again when he was firing up the defense when they were down 24-10. We need a guy to lead this defense (Poz is a good starting linebacker if there is a Ray Lewis type LB next to him).
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If we have the #1 and Fitz has a 106.3 rating (like he does now), I would trade back, and stock up the defense. We aren't a QB away right now, so we need the picks.
This all of course depends on how everyone looks at Sr Bowl/Combine.
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I would hire and keep these guys to rebuild the team.
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Agreed, unless the long term plans are to groom the guy for the left side. I believe Oher started on the right and then moved to the left for example.
Or if you have a lefty QB. I mentioned once before, knowing he is a JR, and small, (and that the fanbase wouldn't allow it), but I wouldn't mind seeing us, if he came out, drafting Kellen Moore and a stud RT.
Moore can make all of the throws, he is a legit thrower. Needs to put some weight on, but wouldn't mind having him. Also, Boise is not another of those SW California schools that everyone thinks is our biggest problem with QBs. I think if we were to do that, Bell is a very good LT for a Lefty QB.
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Can we please have a moratorium on threads about Brian Orakpo/Haloti Ngata/Michael Oher/et al.?
It happened, we missed on the draft picks, we have a new national scout, a new GM and a new assistant GM, we landed a promising NT (Troupe) who should be an anchor of our defense for years to come, a promising DE (Carrington), an OLB (Moats) who will help this defense for years, and a WR (Easley) who showed some amazing flashes before getting hurt, not to mention a franchise RB.
We had a good draft, much better than everyone wants to admit, because we aren't in the playoffs yet. It wasn't an amazing draft, but it was solid, and everyone needs to stop harping on the previous drafts, its a different GM/AGM/National Scout/Coach.
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By the impact that this years draft is having, you certainly could think that-and that is even stretching it. Pathetic draft class so far.
He was that guy on "Mod Squad"
Gee, it's almost like it takes players time to develop.
It takes more than 5 games to know how a draft turns out. I am willing to put money down that Troupe will be the anchor of this defense for some time. Carrington and Moats will continue to develop and start getting more play time and we will have filled 3 holes on our defense in this draft.
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Well...it's great that Nix has not repeated those mistakes.
Right?
You mean like using 6 of our 9 picks on LB/OL/DL?
Yeah I wouldn't call those glamour positions. Do people on this board think that there was only one round in this draft???
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I agree with you 100% wrt Spiller, but taking Troup and Carrington would appear to be sound moves.
No, you forgot, they aren't playing right now, which means they were the worst draft picks in the history of football.
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Oh you mean the guy who was the starting RB? Because Lynch was the starting RB in games 2-3-4.
a who knows 3rd round pick and a conditional pick in 2 years for a #9-1st rounder
Trading him NOW instead of on draft day when Nix could have gotten a 4th to help this horridly bad team THIS YEAR, not to mention losing RB Joique Bell to the Eagles...
Everyone needs to face it, Joique Bell is not ever going to be a great RB. He will be a very serviceable backup RB, maybe. he shined during pre-season against guys who aren't on football teams anymore. Philly grabbed him up because they needed a backup to Mike Bell. We have two very good RB.
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Drafting Spiller
Drafting Troupe
Trading Lynch
Not Drafting QB in 2010 Draft
Committing to rebuilding the franchise from the bottom up
Signing Kyle Urbik
Cutting Hardy
Not Resigning Owens (great production from Stevie Johnson).
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Obviously you don't own a dog, and have no compassion for the millions of us who do.
But his crime aside, Vick is still a convicted felon.
I think the NFL should draw the line and tell these guys that if you do something bad enough that your lawyers cannot even get it plea bargained down to a misdemeanor, and you need to serve time in a federal prison as a convicted felon, you will be banned from playing again in the NFL. Period.
But that's just my opinion. Obviously, the NFL doesn't agree, and you "dog-killing convicted felon lovers" are happy to see Vick doing so well in Philly. I would not have ever wanted him in Buffalo, so no need to "apologize" to me.
I disagree with this. I am a dog-lover through and through. I have a 1 yr old Lab-Pit Mix and am disgusted that someone could do that to animals.
That being said, the guy did serve his time. Are you saying that people who go to jail should never be able to work anywhere? He committed a horrible crime, and he was punished for it. He has seemingly turned a corner, and if he does something wrong again, throw the book at him, but he served his punishment, and deserves his second chance.
That being said, I am tired of all of the same threads. Yes, this team isn't good right now, I don't think anyone questions that. Does no one here understand what rebuilding is. Everyone is tearing Nix/Gaily apart for their draft history (they have had one draft, in which the have seemingly hit on a few good players). They got Troupe who is showing some potential, a stud RB to build the team around, and a WR who showed some good flashes of potential before he got injured in camp. We could have gone out and traded picks to get Vick and signed Dansby and we would have a team that would win 7 games, give up a ton of points, and be no closer to having a future for this team.
They are rebuilding the right way, everyone just has to realize that right now, that means we have to suck. You can't rebuild a team at 7-9 and 6-10 every year. If you look at the Falcons they had the 3rd pick in the draft and got Matt Ryan. The Dolphins had the 1st pick and got Jake Long. You need a top 5 pick to rebuild your team. So we are on our way there and everyone needs to settle down and understand that this is how you build for the future.
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I have been a Bills fan for about 30 years now and this current debacle is up there with the low points of 2-14 in the 1980s and 3-13 under the blowhard Williams in 2001. The part that depresses me the most about all the talk on here about draft picks (and how we could be stacked going into next year's draft) is that this current administration isnt competent to scout, evaluate and draft anyone. You know that they will just screw it up when they have the chance. What gives anyone any hope that these guys can turn this around?? I'm sorry but I have no faith in Buddy Nix and there doesnt seem to be any light at the end of the tunnel here.
I am given hope by the fact that you are wrong about squandering picks. This FO's first draft we got an RB to build this team around, we got very promising defensive players to build out 3-4 around next year (Troupe,Carrington,Moats) and we got a very promising WR who happened to get hurt in Camp.
I know everyone is panicking, but we had a draft that I think will be very promising over the next few years. They addressed our defense going forward, got us a WR, we got unlucky with the injury, and a future superstar RB. We get our evaluation out of the way right now, this year, hit on ILB, QB and OT next year and keep developing Troupe, Carrington, moats, and we become a competitive team. Throw in an extra WR and who knows.
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I don't agree with the Kelsay extension for that much money, though I think he has been a solid, while not good player for us through some very bad times. I am sure that he is a very good guy, and works his a** off, but I am still confused by how much they gave him.
As to the Chan discussion/poop-throwing contest, everyone needs to understand that it has only been 4 weeks. That is all, 4 weeks. It was mentioned before, we have never fully seen a rebuilding process through. People mention the other teams that have turned it around quickly, but context is the key. The Dolphins had a good core of a team, they crapped the bed for a year and turned it around. The Falcons had a high pick in a year that there was a stud QB available, and turned it around.
Our situation is different. There wasn't a QB who could turn it around, and there wasn't a OL worth spending the $$ on. So we get our high draft pick this year, hopefully one of the QB's shows that they can be the guy, and we are well on our way. We drafted a WR who showed some serious skill before getting hurt, we have the makings of young line that could be very solid for the next while, and we drafted some young 3-4 defenders who I think will prove to be fairly good.
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Pioli wanted to hire Gailey as Head Coach in KC, but was (justifiably) afraid that the hire wouldn't excite the fans. So, when Todd Haley was hired, although Gailey was held over from the previous coaching regime, it was decided that the 2 had conflicting offensive philosophies. So he was fired, which was less of a mess than the similar situation in Buffalo at that time considering Haley's experience calling plays for the Cardinals explosive offense from mid 2007-08.
Punch, by the way that quote in your Sig is probably the best Maddenism since John himself stopped doing games. I had to rewind twice to make sure I heard it right.
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Good.
Get this garbage off my television, and let me watch some actual football.
Surprisingly, no one is forcing you to watch it.
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Chan's history in the league IS fact. It is a fact that he was fired in Dallas after two disappointing seasons. It is a fact that he failed at Georgia Tech. It is a fact that he was fired as Chiefs offensive coordinator.
Just because the facts make you burp up your Kool-Aid, it doesn't invalidate them.
Now for my opinion:
Chan Gailey is NOT a respected coach at the NFL level. I base this opinion on the FACT that nobody in the league with knowledge of head coaching vacancies even had Chan Gailey on their radar. Few even knew he was in the market for another head coaching gig.
Another opinion:
No respected, elite-level head coach will come to Buffalo because of their meddling owner, and franchise instability. We get the dregs.
Well your opinion is wrong, because he is very well respected, as referenced by Punch above. And your fact is pretty skewed considering that he delayed the collapse of that Cowboys team for another two years, and he got fired from KC because Haley wanted to call his own offense, and had Gaily calling Haley's playbook.
And yes that does sound like a Dr Seuss book.
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Once again, someone is mistaking their own opinions for facts. You are entitled to your opinions, just like everyone else on this board, but please don't try to pass them off as facts. Chan Gailey is a well respected coach around the league and if you knew anything about college football, you would understand that Georgia Tech is always second fiddle to Georgia. If you can't see the creativity in the offense thus far and the ability to put points on the board, then you haven't been watching. The problem with this team is the defense. They were bad last year against the run and they are worse this year. My problem with the coaching staff is not Gailey, as I believe his offense has shown some definite improvement over last year. My problem is with Edwards. The DC seems to be in over his head and his defense has been terrible outside of the first week. Like I said, I respect your opinion, but please don't mistake your opinions for facts.
I agree with almost everything you say. Let me preface this by saying that I like Chan, and I think that with this rebuild, he is still the right guy. That being said, while the DC is the problem right now, Edwards doesn't have the talent to stop the run, or get any pass rush. Also, at the end of the day, the buck has to stop with Chan, and he needs to take responsibility for Edwards' poor D.
I think that people are being way too reactionary. We are doing what teams need to do, you can't rebuild a team in as much disarray as we were by going 7-9 every year. Honestly, we have played a very tough schedule, two of the games we were in right until the end. We have the makings of a good young offensive line with Bell finally coming along, and the makings of a good NT that we drafted last year. I think there will be growth as we go along this season (we won't be good, but we will get better), and with a good draft next year, we will be competitive.
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http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmonsnfl2010/101001
Couldn't have said it any better. That's why I'm not a sportswriter for ESPN I guess. Hopefully some of the nuts out there can read this and look at the whole situation a little differently. My guess is that you will still picture a cute puppy and despise the man, but still eat veal without blinking an eye. Peace.
I agree with parts of what he said. I personally am not a fan of veal for the same reasons, however I do eat meat. However, I feel like the eating meat/fur is a false equivalency with brutally torturing dogs.
The part I do agree with is that he deserves a second chance. The man served his time in jail. He has seemed to turn his life around, and seems to be honestly contrite about what he did. I love my 1 yr old Lab/Pit, and hated what he did, however he is outspoken against animal abuses, went to a team that has turned him around, and has surrounded himself with people who are much better influences around him.
If he does it again, I was wrong, but he served his time and deserves the benefit of the doubt.
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This years crop of QB's does not rank a low #1-#3 selection in the draft.
There is no Peyton Manning, Sam Bradford, John Elway.
I hate to ruin your plans but the Bills don't need to lose to move up in the draft.
Truth is I would take Fitzpatrick or Brohm over any of these guys.
Just want to clarify things here, real quick. Did you just list Sam Bradford in with Manning and Elway?
Kid can throw, but he isn't Elway/Manning. Least not yet.
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Shouldn't need to score more than 30...
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But the weather in that dome was terrible that day.
Must have been the game that the AC broke.
I want Brohm to be good, and to turn out to be the guy who was projected to be a #1 pick his Jr Year. I don't hold out much hope, but I would like to see it happen. Unfortunately, the only way to find out is to throw him to the wolves. Those people who say "we don't want him behind this team to get him hurt," he has the same chance next year.
I say play this out with Fitz in until the season is mathematically eliminated, and then get Brohm his few reps.
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I'm having a hard time understanding "the problem" with giving Brohm his chance. The guy had somewhat of a chance in GB, did not look good initially, and was given practically nothing after that. With Buffalo he played one game, hardly knowing the 1st teamers names, much less anything about how they played, and looked so-so in terrible weather.
This year he looked pretty good in camp, but as we know the order was already ordained, so his playing time was with the 2nd and 3rd stringers who couldn't block or catch a cold, much less a pass, and Gailey, and those of us with an open mind, saw good stuff in the guy.
Now that Gailey finally got rid of the obligitory starter, Edwards, Brohm moves up to number 2 where he will finally get some reps with the 1st teamers, and I feel sure, sometime not too long from now, he'll see some meaningful playing time from where we can FINALLY make some kind of determination whether or not the kid has it.
Until then all the chatter about how the kid has been a "failure" in his NFL time is just stupid, uneducated BS. Let's wait it out and see...huh!!
Just one clarification, the one game Brohm started/played was in Atlanta, in a dome.
Lindell's Kick
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Also nailed the farther one before the unsportsmanlike was called in that game. And I think that was around 50 as well, in horrid cold rainy weather to boot.
Best walk/metro ride back from that stupid stadium that I have ever had.