Utah John

The one aspect where Davis has the edge is in size -- also strength. Davis is a good blocker for the run and downfield as well.

Sorry. Being trapped six inches underwater or 60 feet underwater, you're still drowning.

We'd have to throw in a first round pick to get them to take them.

The only two injuries on the Bills offense were Harris, on IR, and Josh's shoulder, which he's trying to play through and still passed quite well, maybe not up to his usual standards. The O line is not providing good pass protection or run support, and I think this is down to coaching and not injuries. Morse and the two guards are good players and aren''t injured as far as we know, but we're getting beat up the middle. Opposing DCs have figured something out and they'll all keep doing it until we can stop it.

You're right, when the ball left Jones' hand the center was not five yards downfield. The LOS was the 25, and Jones still had the ball when the center was crossing the 27. (I was able to freeze the play on my rewind at that point. The ball was clearly in Jones' hand, and the center had his foot on the 27 and was headed downfield.) So two yards is still a penalty, and the center interfered with Bernard as he tried to get to the sideline. You're also right that in order to pick up the flag, there should have been some explanation. But the overall point, that the Pats committed a penalty that affected the play, remains.

It all starts up front. Josh had few quiet, clean pockets and when he did get one he wasn't acting like he was sure it would be good. He didn't get deep into his progressions very often before needing to bail, and then the quick zone beating throws were no longer available. I love Kincaid as a receiver but as a blocker he's, putting it politely, a work in progress. With shaky O line play, particularly picking up blitzes, the Bills need to keep a RB or TE in to help. Their best RB (Cook) and their best TE (Kincaid) are not their best pass protectors at those positions. So Murray and/or Knox are on the field. (Did you notice that Cook disappeared in the fourth quarter? The Bills needed to pass and putting Cook out for routes would have been great, but the first priority is protecting the QB, so Murray was playing instead.) 1. Throw an accurate pass. Almost always, check. 2. Catch the freakin ball. Almost always, check. Very few drops yesterday. Even Knox caught passes. 3. Block the man in front of you. DING DING DING We have a winner

I had the same thought and was sad to realize that's how I felt by November most years during the drought. He DID block someone -- Bernard. Go back and watch the play (see previous post for the link). Bernard was in the middle of the field and eventually pushed the receiver out of bounds, but he had to get around a block from the center and then catch up. This is exactly why O linemen are not allowed downfield until the pass is thrown. The NFL won't allow the public to hear those conversations, but the NFL should have all their conversations taped so they can go back later and see what the refs were thinking.

It's not just that he was downfield so far before the pass was thrown. He actively interfered with the defense. Watch the replay and focus on 43 for the Bills (Bernard). Bernard was the man who eventually pushed the receiver out of bounds, way downfield. He couldn't get there earlier because he had to avoid a block from the center. It's astonishing that the refs would just pick up that flag. It goes both ways, too. There are often calls that need to be made that aren't. And it affects both teams. The Pats clearly covered the huge spread in the odds yesterday. More to the point, they won straight up too, so people who got great odds for picking the Pats straight up, cleaned up. It's looking like this league is rigged. I called out the Indy screwing in a post right after the Bills game finished. Not borderline, sorry. At least five yards downfield before the pass was thrown, and he interfered with Bernard who eventually pushed the receiver out of bounds.

Watching the Chiefs-Chargers game. The Chiefs O is doing what we got used to the Bills O doing. Play after play, clutch throws and runs.

A couple years ago, the Bills destroyed the Pats in a playoff game. Hyde made possibly the best defensive play I've ever seen. And today Hyde got his name mentioned ONCE for a good play. Poyer made a good play forcing a fumble but except for when he missed tackles he was mostly invisible. Back in the day no team would shred the Bills D so easily. I don't know if Rapp is a valid replacement for either, but the Bills really need to find two starting safeties going forward. Just the need to replace two safeties, however, is not a reason to tear the team down and start over. What I really think happened is that Jacksonville figured out now to stop the Bills O, the Giants did it too, and so Belichick had the blueprint. If Dorsey can't come up with new schemes, the O is going to struggle for the rest of the season.

If you think the refs were bad in the Bills game (as I do) you can't imagine how lousy they are in the Colts-Browns game.

Well. Put Jones, White, Milano, Oliver, and real Miller on the field, and the D is dominant. Five out of eleven missing. It's not time to tear it down. It's time to scratch out a wild card berth and just be glad for that, and draft well next year. The serious concern is aging. Poyer, Hyde, and even Milano are getting up there, and Milano might not be back by the start of next season. But the offense is NOT getting old and should be much better than it is.

No one seems to have an explanation.

1-2 in the AFCE. And the win over possibly the best team in the division. This team is driving me crazy.

Yes, we have a lot of injuries. But only one (Harris) on the offense. (And maybe Josh's shoulder as well.) Sol the D has some excuses, but the O is just embarrassing.

Cook disappeared in the fourth. Maybe because Murray is better at pass protection.

That last drive by the Pats was unforgivable. Even with the fact that the center was waaaay downfield and the play should not have stood.

The Bills' comments after this game will be exactly what they've been saying over and over. Just like "thoughts and prayers" after a school shooting.

Impossible at this point.

Yeah, but the Chiefs only needed a FG to tie. If the Pats convert, we need a TD.

I did NOT see DPI on the catch to the 1.

Good for the Bills to send pressure. Just didn't work out.

The center was 7 yards past the LOS!

Two minute warning. Bills score. Bills convert. Bills KO. Two seconds gone.

Knox caught an important pass? What's come over these guys?