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Tbh, I think the point being made, is that under the sort of relentless pressure Allen was put under in the game, just about any QB will eventually make mistakes - no matter who he is.
Noticeably, the majority of Allen's mistakes, came well into the second half of the game. Trouble is, they were still mistakes.
I can'r remember exactly which play it was, but Allen was either intercepted, or done for intentional grounding, when he would have been better off just taking the sack, mainly as iirc, it was a 2nd down play, i.e. no need to panic.
The Offense is currently, the major problem the Bills have. The O-Line and play-calling being the worst offenders. With Allen being on the back foot so much, where were changes in scheme and personnel, to try and give him some time?
I also have to say that that was probably the worst officiated game I've seen since we had the 'replacement' refs. At least they were bad but even handedly bad.
I'm not an actual subsriber to the 'vegas paid refs' notions, but if ever there was a game where you could say 'the fix is in', that was it. Eventually, the broadcast pretty much gave up trying to match an offense to the offender, as most of the time when they tried to show whoever was supposed to be up to no good, it obviously wasn't them.
Mind you, they might have struggled to show Trubisky, as I don't think he was even in the same State.
The majority of the penalties the Bills got, are very likely to be correct by rule. My issue with the Zebras, is that they weren't calling the same stuff on the Jags.
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2 hours ago, HalftimeAdjustment said:
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So far, this has been a whole other level of incompetence.
This crew have actually been worse than the replacement refs from a few years back - and I didn't think that was possible.
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1 minute ago, HalftimeAdjustment said:
Have we ever seen 2 consecutive calls where they literally changed the team they called the penalty on?
Heck, the first one they called on Trubisky, and he isn't even there fcol.
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Not all of the changes we’ve seen over the last couple of seasons on the O-Line have been enforced due to injury.
The interior has seen a fair bit of shuffling around in search of the best combination. I’m not convinced that McBeane are remotely content with their performance.
I have no problem with not having a bunch of ‘name’ players in any given unit, providing they are doing their jobs. I just don’t think the O-Line, more particularly the interior thereof, are performing up to snuff.
In support of that contention, just look at how well our Secondary performs, regularly, with a bunch of ‘no names’, apart from Tre White.
Admittedly some of them are now getting the kudos they deserve, but they didn’t start out as such.
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19 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:
The reason I say they protected well is that I think the perfect pocket that Peyton used to hang in is a thing of the past. Perfect pockets for most of the game is a thing of the past. If you're going to throw 35 times a game, on about 10 or 15 of those, you'll be releasing quickly enough that any kind of protection is okay. On another 10 or 15, a good oline will give you a good pocket. On the final 10 or 15, a good line will give Josh running lanes, or at least room to move. I think that's what we saw yesterday.
In the modern NFL, an immobile quarterback can't play, because his oline, no matter how good, can't protect him all the time. Even Brady is getting forced to run more often.
I wouldn't disagree with the synopsis above, or the statement about QB mobility, I just will agree to disagree about the Bills line performance, as we obviously don't view that in the same way.
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Terrific write up Shaw, even though I don't feel the O-Line pass protected that well, at all.
I felt that eventually, Daboll started calling better plays, but also that Josh helped out his line a lot, with his escapeability, and pocket prescense. Too often, for my liking at least, Allen had hands on him, that he shrugged off, and still made a play. Heck, on the one TD, he was getting face-masked, yet still threw the perfect pass.
Having said that, you are dead right, the opening salvoes have been fired around the league, and it's time for hard nosed football.
I wouldn't say that the Bills are physically that 'tough', but what they are is one of the mentally toughest teams. 'Bend but don't break' might be a mantra for the Defensive style overall that Frazier and McDermott subscribe too, but I think it's a description that can be applied throughout the whole team. There is no quit in them, even when things aren't going the way they want them to.
Some of that is a credit to the coaches and FO for finding guys with that type of mentality, but nowadays, I think it's becoming as much a testament to the attitude that our QB brings with him. Allen simply refuses to take a backward step, and takes the rest of the team along for the ride.
There's a feistiness about Allen that gets plays made, evidenced by hurdling LBs, or as Romo put it 'out-muscling the whole D-Line'. Or having the temerity (and strength) to face-mask to the floor, probably the best DT ever, in Aaron Donald.
It probably shouldn't be a surprise that when things got especially 'chippy' late on, one Joshua Allen happened to be in the thick of it.
The Bills D is still a work in progress, but what they are starting to do really well, is pressure the opposition when they have the football in their own 20, or when it's in our 20. The middle 'half' of the field, you can move the football on them, providing you don't try and take any liberties passing, as our DBs are not going to allow that, but when the field is compressed at either end, they are all over it.
Ultimately, the Halloween game was something of a trick and treat. The first half was the trick that we had somehow become inept on Offense, and the second half was the treat that we showed we could still beat the proverbial, out of a team that was desperate to regain some credibilty.
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First half sucked. Way better performance in the Second.
Second half was much more like we have come to expect.
It's a Win.
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That made me smile.
While I think Josh may eventually surpass him, he's still, imho, the greatest Bill.
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All QBs need reliable guys to throw to. Look what happened with Brady in his latter days at the Cheatriots - no-one to throw to, so things became increasingly difficult.
Apart from the fact that KC's defense is rubbish, teams are paying a great deal of attention to stopping both Hill and Kelce. The guy who might be the more needed stop, being Kelce, who had a season for all time last year.
If thoise two don't perform, or Mahomes can't get the football to them, KC struggle. Years past they had better additional options at WR (e.g. Watkins), who were also a threat.
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I've not dived into schedules but the Chiefs D is so bad, that I think their only chance is to win a bunch of shoot-outs.
Thing is, they are turning the football over way too much for that to happen.
There are a lot of fairly solid teams in the AFC, who aren't named the Chiefs, who I would realistically expect to be in the Wild Card mix up. The Bills and Titans should win their respective (poor) Divisions. After that you have fair few other teams that are way more balanced than the Chiefs are - namely they have functioning defenses.
Bungles, Ravens, Chargers, Raiders and Browns, are currently all better teams than KC, notwithstanding the occasional weird result.
All of the above have both played more consistently, are more balanced, and have better records than the Chiefs. Even the stats bear up the 'eye test'
While the Chiefs are still an incredibly dangerous team, I don't think they will make the playoffs this year.
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I don't have a problem with the 'regular' injuries, e.g. hammies etc, especially if we have to play them with guys 'banged up'. (generalisation).
I really don't want to see any career threatening injury, ever.
Even though many of the players earn more than I've made in a lifetime, having their ability to earn taken away from them, simply sucks, especially as that window to earn good money, is increasingly small it seems.
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The Chiefs are going to struggle to make the playoffs this year.
Bills and Titans are in 'easy' divisions, and you have a bunch of other teams who will challenge - Ravens, Bungles, Browns, Chargers, possibly also the Raiders.
I haven't paid too much attention to schedules, but ATM, I'd say that all of those teams are more likely to get there than the Chiefs. They all have far better D's than the Chiefs do, and none of them are exactly shabby on offense.
The one chance the Chiefs have, is to win a bunch of shoot outs, and , again, ATM, I don't see that happening - they are simply turning the football over too much.
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I've made this comment before, but they really need to simplify the rulebook. Even to the extent of getting someone to re-write it in plain English, that everyone can understand.
I also don't think that there should be calls that cannot be challenged. Teams only get a couple of challenges each anyway, so it shouldn't make any difference in that respect.
While the NFL does appear to creeping gradually to full time zebras, in a multi billion industry, it seems ridiculous, that outcomes can be affected by amateurs, when the guys playing, coaching etc. , are all professionals.
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I don't see Klein as a cap casualty at all tbh. One reason for that, is that after a somewhat shaky start, where our coaches weren't utilising him in the best ways, he has simply 'done his job', and effectively. I also no longer view him as just a backup, but more of a situational piece, especially against the run. I can't help but think that Beane and McDermott aren't unhappy with either his contributions, or his cap hit, and while I can envisage them trying to reduce it, I don't see it as being by that much, and probably by an extension, rather than cutting a useful contributor.
Going forward, the easiest uprade to the team, would be another quality CB to go opposite Tre. I think you can book it that we will probably be looking to draft one. Wallace has performed admirably, all things considered, but just lacks a little in the athleticism stakes, which makes him easier to be picked on, on occasion.
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Dislike having any team that's striven for a whole 17 week season, to be disadvantaged after winning a playoff game, by having a shortened week - even if only by one day.
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21 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
I was okay with both of those non-calls to be honest. They could have been called, especially the second one, and for a crew that is so flag happy generally slightly surprising it wasn't, but I didn't think either was a clear penalty.
As I said, the one was a very cute play, and difficult to pick up - I have no problem with that. The other one was more obvious, and to me, it's the act of grabbing the arm that does it, it's deliberate and in no way counts as 'hand fighting' for example, or just contact when both players are going for the football.
No sleep being lost over it though.
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3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
Not sure what happened on that long catch. I think he just lost his bearings. He ran a great route on that play, but agree otherwise the Chiefs seem to have found a way to shut him down somewhat. That is 3 games he hasn't really popped against them.
Shutting him down somewhat involved the DB grabbing or knocking his arm on two seperate occasions, just as he was about to get his hands on the football, either of which could have been called for PI, but weren't. One should have been, imho, but the other was a very cute play by the DB, and was more visible on the TV, from their angle, than from the Zebras angle tbh.
I thought offensively, Daboll came up with a terrific gameplan. We almost reversed what the Chiefs did to us last year. Hurt them deep regularly, and utilised our TE very effectively, while not getting away from running the football either. I think that the early Allen rushes, really kept the KC D 'on their heels', until such time as they simply had to start bringing more to try and get pressure. By which time it was too late. And Allen still hurt them even when they did try and get after him more.
Good to see the DBs etc. being a lot more physical with the Chiefs WRs/TE, preventing them from getting the quick hitters they use to keep the chains moving. Was there holding in that? - For sure, but as they say 'what goes around, comes around', and it wasn't as though the Chiefs DBs weren't still trying to do it either.
If you are going to play any sort of 'bend but don't break D', you need to have either a whole heap of incredibly fit and athletic guys, or you need to be able to rotate guys in and out to keep them fresh. Hence the 8 D-Linemen. You need to be able to do this, as inevitably there will be some drives that take up a fair bit of time by the opposition offense. It looks like that McDermott and Frazier (ably assisted by Beane), have found just about the right blend of youth and experience, combined with a fair bit of talent, for exactly whatever gameplan they come up with. And that's before you look at he DBs, who seem to be universally blessed with what can best be described as 'football smarts'.
As a side note, I was very pleased to see the extension for Taron Johnson. Develop and pay your own, and the kid makes too many plays in this D to let him walk.
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The Texans simply had no answers, anywhere, to anything the Bills did on Offense or Defense.
Even if Tyrod had been fit, I think they would still have been given a similar lesson, albeit maybe not quite so extreme. Offensively, the pressure and coverage, from our D left Mills nowhere to go. I don't think that would have changed even with Tyrod in.
Our attack was pretty balanced twixt run and pass, and often the Texans could barely stop either. Their classic 'bend but don't break' defense actually caused us 'some' problems, but with how much it was on the field, it bent too much eventually, and broke. I didn't think we were especiaqlly attempting to run the score up, but by the end of the 3rd into the 4th quarter, rather ironically, the Texans had just ran out of gas.
I won't single out anyone in particular, but I will pay some respects to all the depth/backup guys who saw the field yesterday, as they pretty much all showed up making plays somewhere. Kudos to them and the coaches.
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D was terrific again. Offense eventually got there. Nice to see some good run plays.
Motor and Moss actually now seem to be working well as a 'tandem'. Their respective workloads and results being pretty even.
Great to see 'backup' guys on D making plays. We might still be lacking another real quality CB opposite Tre, but other than that, just about everyone in the Secondary is a baller.
I don't know what it is about Matakevitch, but whenever he gets on the field, he makes plays. The epitome of a STs guy who can step up when needed to.
Overall, very satisfying, even though it wasn't spectacular, irrespective of the scoreline. Conditions obviously had an effect there.
If you have to be one dimensional against this D, they will kill you, as happened today.
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1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:
Let's gooooo Buffalllloooooo!
How bad is it raining folks?
Looks like it's hammering down tbh Gunner - saw a couple of shots behind the announcers, and it was teeming down.
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It's certainly persisting down. Could get to be an ugly game. Still believe we'll win handily, but I don't know about covering any spread stuff.
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53 minutes ago, WideNine said:
Those clips being shared in this thread ARE Spencer Brown looking pretty good playing guard.
So OBD appears to have already asked him to play guard a few times and he said yes
Did not appear to be struggling too much filling in. If the kid is pushing for playing time that is a good thing. Love the upside.
That clip just above these posts doesn’t show Brown at guard, at all. Looks to me that he’s lined up outside RTFwiw, he was named tackle eligible a couple of times last Sunday, and they may be thinking of using him, in those types of situations
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So far, to me, Allen is looking a lot better, scannning the field, staying in the pocket (or moving up into it). Should have been DPI on the pass to Diggs, no question imho.
Main thing is, Allen seems to be seeing the fulll field again, and is making decent decisions.
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Referee Tony Corrente corrupt as *****!!!
in The Stadium Wall
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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/11/09/matt-nagy-thought-65-yard-field-goal-and-hail-mary-had-about-the-same-chance-of-success/
The video is the part that is really interesting in this.
Simms calls out Corrente, not for being on the take, but for actually having issues with individual players, citing something that happened between him and Corrente, after he complained (including a traditional f-bomb) about a particularly late hit.
Basically, after any sort of break (commercial, t.o. etc.) the ref normally gives a quick signal to the QB, before the whistle gets blown to start the clock again. After the complaint by Simms, there was nothing from Corrente. When challenged about it, by Simms, his answer was along the lines of 'are you going to apologise for being disrespectful to me before?'
It would seem that the likeliest explanation of what happened, is that Corrente took an opportunity to screw someone over on the Bears (probably Marsh), for earlier perceived insults.
Something really should be done about this, but it probably won't be.
Which is a pity, as it might have lead to Hughes getting more than one holding call a game, if the Zebras thought they were going to be held to account for pettiness.