Sisyphean Bills
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Sure does sound like Pegulas are getting rid of the "muddle huddle" structure and establishing defined areas of responsibility. Good. Culture change starts at the top.
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So if I'm reading this right, King is suggesting that the Bills improve their success with first round picks by trading one for Sam Bradford. Sometimes your head just explodes.
Yeah. Sort of a "the Bills should give away their picks because they can't find guys to put on the field anyway" thought there.
And Bradford would be a swing of extremes. Replace your mobile QB and run-first offense with a QB with a golden arm who is a statue in the pocket and operated in pass-happy schemes. Do the Bills have the OL and WRs to go pass-happy next season?
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MMQB has no credibility. Peter King is Belichick's official ball handler.
What a hack. PK is a terrible writer and really needs to gob-knob him some inside sources.
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The hard truth is we just didn't have the players. They aren't smart enough, hard working enough, or (frankly) good enough to do what Rex was asking them to do.
IDK why I feel this way, but I still believe that Rex has the chops to be lights on defense if he has the players, but he needs the players to be exactly right. That's a problem. It's also a problem that the execution of his own scheme is a problem for him (10 men on the field, late calls, confusion, etc.).
With a gambling, aggressive scheme like Rex preferred, one wants players that are versatile and understand their different roles. When calling an overload blitz, for example, the players opposite have to get back and fill. If one of them would rather stand there with his hands on his hips and take the play off or doesn't perform his assignment for some other reason, the offense can break off big plays.
Another potential dilemma for a coach is if the gap between the 1st guy and the next guy up is rather significant. Does the coach play the less athletic guy or try to plead, cajole and appease the better player into giving more effort, etc.? There are players in the NFL that really don't give a **** about anything but getting their paycheck and only do just enough.
In the end, this defensive coaching staff and the players didn't mesh well enough to win. It's on all of them. Watson's call was for culture change.
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I know he did, but my undestanding was that the "base" formation of Pettine's D did have some key differences from Rex's 2016, but I may be mistaken.
Was it drawn in crayon?
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At that point Whaley would be shown the door. This isn't complicated.
And the mea culpas that the defensive talent was overrated will follow, of course.
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Gotta agree with some of what Bart said.
Good thing is the D will get to prove themselves next year. Or will we hear that a new DC with a new scheme is why they are under performing?
That's what I've wondering as well. If the Bills defense continues to be ho-hum middle of the road (or gets even worse), who does the blame train go after? Is another spin of the revolving door with coaches appropriate and justified?
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I'm really referring more to the press than fans. The media sets a narrative and when the Bills stray from it they throw around the D-word.
Just win games. It's that simple (but not easy). Focus on winning !@#$ing football games. All the "body English" in the world toward the press isn't going to change a !@#$ing thing.
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You do realize that you're providing a totally meaningless set of stats, don't you? What is important, to this argument, is how did much the same defensive personnel perform under Ryan and Schwartz. How two different sets of players performed means absolutely nothing.
Well, it's like neither Zach Brown nor Lorenzo Alexander played particularly well in Ryan's scheme.
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Bart Scott says one thing. Dareus says another thing. I'm pretty damn sure the truth is somewhere in between. He does bring up good points about Dareus's work ethic though.
Don't forget the crayon point. That was legit.
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There was/is little to no leadership on this team.
Lead with the weed, man.
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Fair enough; we can agree to disagree. For the record, I don't think he's great, but I do think he's better than the alternatives and thst the Bills should draft a qb relatively early in the draft.
He is a significant part of the Bills running game. Getting rid of him will change that equation. Change is not the same as improvement, even if one believes the tweets.
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I agree with all of that. Which is why I think TT is back. Whaley rightfully has a short window to right this ship. He knows that. He's not going to put his career on the line with Cardale or a rookie.
If that comment that Whaley is still in love with EJ Manuel and still thinks he is capable of becoming the next Ben Roethlisberger, then EJM might be the guy Whaley wants to turn to. (Add: Cardale is a QB in that Roethlisberger, big-bodied defenders-bounce-off-him stand-tall-in-the-pocket rifle, mold.)
TT was a fit for the offense that Greg Roman installed and wanted to run. What offense does Anthony Lynn want to really run? Where does he envision taking this offense? And does that mesh with Whaley's vision?
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Sully is a prick who knew full well beforehand that Lynn wasn't going to answer any questions about Ryan, that Whaley would next Monday, and that the weekly coach's presser should be confined to discussion about preparations for the upcoming game. Instead, he chose to disregard and sensationalize.
So, in your opinion, Jerry Sullivan should not have followed up on the biggest story in the NFL at the time it was happening, a story that every other NFL sports outlet was covering? It seems that you are implying that he'd be doing a "better job" if he ignored the elephant in the room or asked questions and wrote things that weren't "sensational" and left that to other pricks.
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This is a very valid point. But the people who should step out and answer questions are frankly, the people who made the decision to hire Rex, and then to fire Rex.
That would be the Pegulas. And if they choose to issue a press release then stay home, there's really not too much Brandon or Whaley can do about that.
If that is the case, then Sullivan was on target with his criticism of ownership. Pegula firing Ryan and then not answering questions nor even trotting out a PR person to answer questions makes the organization look bush league. In fact, just coming out and owning the decision would probably have made him look like a hero to many. "Yeah, I screwed up. Ryan was a bad fit and I had to relieve him." Instead its a swirling stew of speculation, opinion, etc.
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Look, this is unworthy of you. I've admired a lot of what you write, and you're obviously like myself, a long term fan who is enormously frustrated.
There's a big gap between saying "Whaley fired Rex and should show up and answer questions about it" and saying "Whaley had influence and input into the decision to fire Rex", and you must know this. So why not acknowledge it?
You are right. My frustration boiled over there. There are plenty of posts trying to slander the media as "the problem", incompetent, hugely horrible at their jobs, etc. and trying overly hard to nudge the splitting of hairs in defense of certain members of the organization.
I think I've clearly said that I believe Whaley has had influence and input in many of the decisions made. Trying to make excuses for him doesn't resonate with me.
Should Whaley or someone else, anyone else, hold a presser and answer a few questions? Of course they should. That's how PR works in general. You want change then you pitch that change to your customers and sell it as a good thing.
And you are spot on that these last two things are distinct. The reality that Brandon and Whaley and Pegullible discuss the team is one thing. That there wasn't any press conference about firing Ryan is a second thing.
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You might want to do a little research on Chris Polian's talent evaluation while he was in Indianapolis.
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Didn't they just fire two guys who preferred the 3-4?
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Oh, I agree that regardless of if he made the choice there's an issue- as you note either he got it wrong or he wasn't willing/able to push to get it right... neither great, so I wasn't absolving him but if he did speak up with concerns that were proven right he might be getting a real opportunity to lead the process here. Just spitballing about the possible dynamics more than blaming anyone with the thoughts
I never thought you were assigning blame.
FWIW, the tired shell game of scapegoating <insert name> as he leaves the building has led exactly nowhere. They continue to be an irrelevant and mediocre franchise more interested in curb appeal than substance.
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kicking the can down the road for a week while their spin doctors get their stories straight is weak as hell.
The action says that firing the public face of the franchise is completely routine, so much so that it isn't even worth changing the weekly schedule to address it and try to get their message to the public, including their customers.
On the other hand, changing coaches every 2 or 3 years really has become the status quo. Maybe fans should just shut up and accept whatever the party line serves up next.
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it might be the answer to the question re: was rex dougs choice?
and if he told the pegulas that he didnt think it was the right move but that hed grind it out either way -- might be why he suddenly is in charge this time.
He might not have been Doug's choice.
On the other hand, are we to believe the Pegullibles made the Ryan hire in an information vacuum? That seems far-fetched at best.
On the third hand, this doesn't exactly speak well for Doug or the organization or both. Why didn't he speak up during the hiring process? Or did he? And if so, why was he, the resident football genius, ignored? The "go with the flow" "good soldier" act hasn't worked out twice now, if that narrative is correct. Doug not speaking up and setting a sustainable football direction could be argued as having cost this owner millions of dollars and a bunch of wasted time and customer goodwill. In short, it could be seen as amateur or assholic.
Culture change starts with coherent, strategic leadership. Until then it's about losing bigly.
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Whaley didn't fire Ryan; Pegula was his direct superior in the org. chain. That doesn't mean he didn't suggest it, I'm sure he did, especially after hearing from some folks who sat with Whaley and Pegula in their booth on Sunday. We weren't the only ones pissed about the punt with 4 minutes remaining, apparently.
Yes, yes. He's too busy and he had zero input.
Slow clap.
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I don't think it's at all about TBN getting what they deserve. I don't really know why they didn't. What I think happened, with no real knowledge of what went on, was a combination of 3-4 things: The Bills are dysfunctional when it comes to the press. Bertchold sucks. Terry pegula hates the press and naively thought his statement would be enough. Whaley was going to be out of town scouting and doesn't like talking when he doesn't have to and thought I'm not missing important scouting time to answer gotcha questions I'm not going to answer. Lynn not giving a **** and only concerned with getting ready for the game.
Wait. So Whaley had enough time to fire the HC, but the reason he can't spend 10 minutes answering questions is that he's "too busy"? Wow. That's one lame ass cop-out.
Berchtold sucks. Yeah, after watching Lynn stumble through his first presser, hard to argue otherwise. -
Of course Notre Dame fans don't want him. They think Top 10 finishes are a birth right.
Bills could do worse.
There are a lot of rocks.
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EJM being outplayed by Fitzpicks isn't really a ringing endorsement of the org.