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9 minutes ago, Speaker said:
Y’all are annoying and sure will be the ones to say you heard it first on tbd if it were true. 🙄🙄 He specifically said it was a rumor and couldn’t be verified and it’s not that far fetched if she were in icu and the worlds out here wondering what’s going on. She’s a public figure… people talk.
Who cares who got what first? What does that prove in the big scheme of things?
What’s worse, is spreading speculation that’s proven to be inaccurate, only to expose oneself as shamelessly pedaling
unfounded information to merely draw attention to themselves.
Yes, that poster needs to be called out on it, especially when refusing to back down by using some pretzel-logic explanation of, well, I didn’t know if it were true, but there’s a lot of relevant information out there.
If you don’t know, then shut the F up.
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24 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said:
I never claimed it as fact. Actually went out of my way to share full context and say I have no way of verifying, but there's a lot of relevant info there.
I don't think it means anything if she plays IMO. I think Kim would want her to play, and she would try to push through, but obv hoping this isn't true
Might be better if you started by citing actual facts rather than spitting out unsubstantiated BS.
Defending whatever it is you posted by writing, "I have no way of verifying," before contradicting yourself by writing "there's a lot of relevant info out there," is your way of merely attempting to sound important. You don't, especially in a situation such as this.
Be better.
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I'll say this once here and once only, in repeating what I just posted on Twitter.
People should really stop speculating on things they know nothing of.
Stop.
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4 hours ago, sullim4 said:
I hope everything is ok... as others said, that statement sounded pretty serious.
Any info on what happened? @john wawrow?
Nothing other than speculation, which would be unfair and unprofessional.
I can say is I'm hearing she is improving, which coincides with the statement, so that is promising.
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48 minutes ago, akcash said:
You guys think it will be downtown or OP?
Niagara Falls.
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Thanks, folks.
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1 hour ago, LeGOATski said:
You quoted the wrong person, but fair enough. Let's see how much of a distraction it is when the season is underway.
We'll circle back to this.
We already know the angle you're going to take, regardless.
1. I'm not going to be there tomorrow and instead covering NHL free agency.
2. It's the angle because the players and the team, based on their comments and outbursts, have made this this angle.
3. I would be disappointed in my colleagues if they didn't ask these questions.
4. People thinking this isn't an issue can put their hands on their ears and yell "lalalalalalal," as much as they like. It's still there.
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18 minutes ago, Warcodered said:
It kind of is, sure maybe things get clamped down in camp and it becomes essentially nothing, but the possibility of that happening in no way means people shouldn't ask about. Especially as all signs so far point to Beasley struggling to keep this to himself.
i'm not on the defensive at all. not sure why you even have to intend to inject that unless it's because you don't feel comfortable with your position being called out. these things do not die down especially given the attention being placed on the issue in Buffalo and elsewhere.
there are concerns inside the organization that this issue will prove divisive and become a distraction. already, for the first time in McDermott's tenure, players are openly going against his team-first wishes in regards to vaccinations.
unless players resolve this by getting vaccinated and meeting NFL protocol minimum thresholds, this will remain an open issue, whether you like it or not.
I've got you down for not. but life's life.
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17 hours ago, 716er said:
Thanks for the effort here, JW. I think I speak for most in saying thanks for the coverage over the years and providing balanced insight.
In regards to the quoted point, will un-vaxxed players be subject to the media in the same way the vaxxed ones are?
That's a good question. We are getting player availability once camp opens tomorrow. Media are required to be vaccinated and have passed a COVID test in order to have access. It hasn't been made clear if the players are required to be vaccinated. That said, those who are unvaxed are required to take daily COVID tests so I'm assuming they will be made available to us.
15 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:I don't agree with this take. Now that they're back in camp, they can say they're solely focused on football and McDermott can lock in Beasley's focus after they personally talk, reestablishing the "in house" protocol.
The atmosphere at camp is totally different than on Twitter. Writing a speculative piece on it only serves the purpose of keeping the drama going.
Great for reporters. Bad for the team.
Sure. The issue just magically disappears, just like COVID was supposed to by Easter 2020. Grow up.
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10 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:
JW -
Thanks for responding. I appreciate it. I do apologize for my tone. It was unfair to you.
Thanks. It sure was.
Apology accepted.
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6 minutes ago, eball said:
Glad to hear from you JW. I hope you can get us some valid info on how the Beasley (and now Feliciano) issues are potentially impacting the Bills’ locker room in our most anticipated season in nearly 30 years.
We'll find out more on Wednesday, when the Bills are first set to speak. I'm expecting them to circle the wagons on the issue, which is really all they can do. But it's difficult for them to suggest they're keeping it in house based on the back and forth that happened this weekend. It's might be even more difficult to say they're solely focused on football, as Poyer insisted in June.
Alas, you won't have the pleasure or pain (pick one, don't care) of having me there asking questions that day as I'll be tied up handling NHL free agency. I'll get there at some point.
But those expecting not to hear questions about COVID, given what's gone on, are mistaken, especially when Cole Beasley is made available.
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The only reason I haven't replied to this topic, by the way, is I just happened to be out of town for five weeks being assigned to cover the Stanley Cup playoffs in Canada. I guess, my bosses have enough faith in me to do so, besides what some here might say.
smfh
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On 6/3/2021 at 11:08 PM, Shaw66 said:
I think you seriously misunderstand the role of people who cover modern pro sports teams. And you misunderstand the balance of power between the teams and players on one hand, and the writers, on the other.
Wawrow isn't a journalist. He is just a guy who produces content that the print or online sources use to attract readers. He isn't an investigative journalist on some highly principled search for the truth. He doesn't have to ask the tough questions to succeed at his job. His bosses want him just to write something interesting about the team. So long as readers like what he writes, Wawrow's bosses don't care at all if he's sucking up to the players and teams. Peter King has made a fortune sucking up to Favre and Manning and Brady. And they don't care if Wawrow is ahead of his fellow writers on a subject like the vaccine. A scoop isn't worth very much, because all the other writers hear his questions and see what he writes, and if it has any legs, they all write it, too. So there's no advantage to be out ahead of the other writers on an issue like this.
The one way that a writer like Wawrow can make a name for himself, to set himself apart, is to have better access to the Bills than the average writer. For example, it's a big deal for a guy like him to get a one-on-one interview with a player or players, and even better with McDermott or Beane. A lengthy article about Poyer is worth a lot more to Wawrow's bosses than some paragraphs about the vaccine. If Poyer is in the mood to do a one-on-one interview with someone, how likely do you think it is today that he'll give that interview to Wawrow? Not very. How likely is it that Frazier will choose Wawrow? Not very, because Frazier wants to back his player. If the players don't like you, they aren't giving you the stories.
Look at Jay Skurski's interview with Trubisky in Buffalo News. Do you think anyone on the Bills would sit down today with Wawrow to do an interview like that?
The plain dynamic at work here is that Wawrow needs the Bills a lot more than the Bills need Wawrow. The sports media can always find another guy to write stories. So when Wawrow keeps asking questions the Bills don't want to answer, when it's clear he's asking Poyer to talk about things that are not in Poyer's interest, Wawrow is putting at risk his ability to do his job.
Is that what you think?
I just submitted a whole number of grafs on the Bills COVID-19 debate as asked by my bosses. As for me having access to Poyer, I'll have it come the start of training camp. If he talks to me or not, it doesn't mean I won't have access to him because I'll be in a setting where other reporters will ask questions, some of whom might even ask the questions I'd like to ask.
My job is quite secure, which might come as a surprise to you and all this mularkey you're posting here. I've overcome a few people, even Tom Donahoe not talking to me for his last season. Here's the thing. I'm confident in the relationships that I've built and the reputation I've developed in being fair.
You seem to think that it's my job to be a pom-pom carrier to root, root, root for the home team. It's never been that way. And players, coaches and the Bills media department has always respected that.
You'd be surprised at how many more people I've been able to speak to based on the questions I've asked, and not matter who seems to put off by them.
But, obviously, you know better. (you don't. but feel free to live in that world, bubba).
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Also: this whole thing about me not being an investigative journalist. I'm a newswriter, having covered everything murders to entertainment and was first AP writer on the scene of the Clarence Center plane crash.
As for news stories I've helped break, some might remember my coverage of the Kevin Everett's injury, in which The AP was the first to get a story that he was going to survive, and first to get an interview with his mother.
Of course, some might also remember The AP's coverage on the Bills sale in 2014.
Stop me if this flies in the face of your ill-conceived narrative. But I think I've earned my place here on this board and coverage in this community to have it questioned by some slapdick as yourself.
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3 minutes ago, HOUSE said:
What if every Offensive linemen in the NFL catches mono EXCEPT Richie Incognitio ??
Nope. He still wouldn't be allowed on team property. That bridge wasn't just burned, it was exploded, and all signs of it decimated in the blast.-
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On 3/6/2021 at 9:57 AM, Doc said:
The "report" doesn't bother me. I've become distrustful of "reporting" these days.
And even if the Pegulas were truly looking to sell the Sabres, it still wouldn't bother me. My main concern is the Bills and they're doing a great job with them (after some early and quickly remedied hiccups), and if selling the Sabres helps them focus on them, so much the better.
But while I'm just a casual Sabres fan, I'd rather the team not move. I know the Pegulas will keep the team in Buffalo just like they will the Bills, and they were a godsend for us Bills fans (which leaves me dumbfounded as to why any Bills fan would trash them).
I'm just curious why the Sabres have been so bad these past 10 years. It appears that you're working on a story so if it's a matter of them doing the same wrong things for the past 10 years and not learning, maybe putting that on paper will spur them to finally make changes.
I expect to have the answer to your questions on this in a story I'm working on.
And, to be clear, the "report" bothers me. Because it's amateurs such as this, who have no guidelines or reins or policy when it comes to sourcing and reporting that makes us all look bad in the industry.
You say, you're distrustful of reporting these days, which is an indication of where things stand for everybody. And yet, you trust me enough to ask this question. ... I'm not knocking you for it, because that's how people view the media. And it's because of irresponsible reports such as these that contribute to making it so, and why I feel it's important to shame those pretend reporters.
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Trust me. This is never going to happen. Ever.
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On 3/4/2021 at 9:59 PM, Doc said:
I know about Terry being a hockey fan, but at some point of it not working, you'd figure he'd see what worked with the Bills and do that with the Sabres. I'm curious to see what Wawrow has.
irresponsible "report," and i hesitate to even call it that.
the only sliver of truth to it is that someone expressed interest and was immediately dismissed.
and before someone misinterprets this as something more, this happens on occasion.
but to suggest NDA's were issued and all that is beyond the realm of reality. it's not even on the same planet.
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On 2/19/2021 at 7:34 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said:
actual article
He does point out that Beane said it was likely:
The quote I had written down was "He intends to, and he's earned the right to, test free agency" which makes it sound as though the Bills knew it was a done deal that Milano intended (at the point of Beane's presser) to test the FA market.
Some aspects I find a little strange about this:
1) Wawrow "teased" it on twitter, as if it were big news, instead of incremental news "Beane said he intended to do it, now there's a source with direct knowledge saying it's gonna happen". That's up to him, of course, but the next time I see this kinda tweet from him
Imma be 🙄
2) The timing, as someone else pointed out - with FA actually 4 weeks away
It's probably not in the Bills interest to tip their hand this early. But, if I were Milano's agent and wanted to drum up more business with limited opportunities for F2F contact with club personnel (limit on Sr Bowl, virtual combine), it makes perfect sense.
3) the rationale given
Milano and his agent probably have some idea what offers have been "hypothetically" floated his way and how sure of a bet they are. Would the Bills? 🤷♂️
Some of the stats brought up are strange -
I'm sure it's truth, but it seems like something someone comes up with when they're looking for a way to highlight their guy, y'know?
2019 was by far Milano's best year, with 15 games played, 101 combined tackles, 9 PD, a forced fumble, 7 TFL, 7 QB hits, and 1.5 sacks. But he didn't have any picks and only 1 fumble recovery.
My feeling is if Milano had had a similar sort of year this season, the Bills would have been turning over rocks in their cap situation to find the money to sign him.
But instead, the "11 games this season" Wawrow cites (I find 10 regular season plus 3 playoff games) over states his availability. Milano has generally played 100% of the defensive snaps plus substantial ST snaps since becoming a starter. But this season, that was true in only one (1) of the regular season games, Week 3.
Total speculation: I'm wondering if the Bills made Milano an offer he considered insulting - not because of $$ because that's always going to start apart and get negotiated, but because the Bills made a bunch of contingent, in per-game and performance bonuses.
The timing of it was the timing. A day after the NFL announced the minimum cap was going to be at least $180M, led to people speculating on the twitter of whether that changed the economics enough for the Bills to take a shot at re-signing Milano.
Read as much between the lines as you want, nothing Beane said entirely ruled out Milano from being re-signed. Beane didn't even suggest he "expected" Milano to hit free agency. He simply said, he's earned the right to do so.
Like it or not, I deal in absolutes, which is why the story was clear in saying Matt Milano will test free agency, as opposed to "intends to" or is "planning to" test free agency. That, under AP sourcing standards, wouldn't have been enough for me to write the story.
I don't think I need to apologize for shedding further light on the matter.
I asked the question, and received a definitive response.
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5 minutes ago, ScotiaBillsFan said:
Taking offense to uncomfortable truths while chastising people for taking offense to uncomfortable truths.
Posts such as this reflect the ignorance that has filtered into society, in which people sem to only accept self-validating narratives and take offense to uncomfortable truths.
SBF
Person said 97 percent of reporters, which is total BS.
The profession isn't perfect, but tell me one that is?
Exaggerate much?
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9 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:
I’d like to culturally cancel about 97% of “ reporters”.
Totally uncalled for. I take offense to anyone promoting such talk.
I mean that sincerely.
Posts such as this reflect the ignorance that has filtered into society, in which people seem to only accept self-validating narratives and take offense to uncomfortable truths.
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24 minutes ago, thetaxicabdriver said:
Don't you just love it when we can agree on something!
We didn't, Jerry Coleman. But it takes an idiot to know one, I guess.
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On 1/13/2021 at 9:07 AM, thetaxicabdriver said:
John Wawrow is an idiot.
Yes, he is, Jerry Coleman. Yes, he is.
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47 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:
Pardon if this is not a good followup question, but what is the team policy regarding media availability for the players--I infer that each player decides for themselves whether or not to grant an interview in an open locker room then, as opposed to a dedicated media press conference appearance?
Media could ask for players during camp and get separate interviews. Now that we're into the regular season, all players are required to be available upon request if they're not participating in the team's scheduled zoom calls.
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On 6/11/2020 at 10:07 AM, JohnC said:
Attached is a link by AP's John Wawrow. The article addresses the organizational structure of the Pegula sports entreprise and the layers of management involved in running the sports business. My takeaway is simple. If you hire the right people and allow them to run the operation you are more likely to have success. The Bills are an example of that with McDermott and Beane having full authority to make football decisions. The Sabres are the antithesis of that notion as exemplified by the constant churning of hockey staff and the not so surprising outcome.
In my opinion what this organization didn't need was more tumult in the organization by firing Botterill who was on the last year of his contract. The Pegulas made the right to decision to allow him to finish his contract. Botterill has been given enough time to implement his strategy to run the hockey operation. Next season is his do or die season. If the team has meaningful success he will be retained; if this team doesn't have meaningful success he will not be retained. And that is how it should be.
https://apnews.com/13d5ef6efda7c67b2f2bb67943472709?view=getnewpost
I agree with this post whole-heartedly still.
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Kim Pegula is receiving medical care
in The Stadium Wall
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Boo hoo. It’s our fault you pedaled in false rumor-mongering.
Why not own up to what you did rather than expose your ignorance.
here’s the problem with your swiss cheese attempt at logic:
the irresponsible poster’s speculation led to people asking more questions which weren’t answered until I posted verified information.
why not follow your own advice in which we can stop the silly and irresponsible speculation and all check back into this thread when there’s something official.
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