chris heff
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My brother and I were discussing QBs, I've seen a lot or as my brother put it, he has seen all the greats since Otto Graham. In any given year in the NFL there are a few elite QBs. Then a few guys that have no business starting, but are because of injuries or because some team has an investment in them. There are some rookies, who I think deserve a pass. Then there is all the other guys.
The elite guys right now, in my opinion, are Payton Manning, Brady, Brees, Rogers and Roethlisberger. I'm basing this on having won Super Bowls and body of work. None of these guys were drafted in the same year. Of those guys only Manning and Brady can carry a team without much talent, and they have proven that. Payton was drafted in 1998. How many QBs have been drafted by NFL teams since 1998? Yes there have been other elite guys that have retired but other guys, like Rogers, emerg.
QBs from the ranks of "the othe guys", have won a lot of Super Bowls. What is easier to find, the elite guy or find one of "the other guys", and build a great team around him?
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Was this year. And I maintain it cost them two games.
Is it your contention that if they beat Atlanta they don't stink up that place against Tampa Bay? If it is I agree.
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Montana and Young
Staubach and Aikman
Favre and Starr
Brady and Bledsoe
Bradshaw and Roethlisberger
Marino and Griese
LOL Elway and Manning
What about Kemp and Lamonica? Oh wait, never mind.
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Give Byrd what ever he wants.
Get a guard.
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I can't believe they traded Lamonica!
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Isn't this show like a year old? And didn't we beat it to death?
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Cincy v SD I believe
Did the Bills play the week before that game at Cincy? I thought that game was really cold also. Game ended on a bad call, no replay review. The replay clearly showed Bills receiver in but was called out. What else is new.
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I can't believe they traded Lamonica!
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I don't know about you guys, but seeing Meyer and Saban lose warmed my heart.
I with you.
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Every college qb is better than EJ! Duh!
I actually like Boyd but he could be Troy Smith for all we know. I just hope EJ can stay healthy and shut up all the people trying to run him out after one year.
This
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Wasn't there a really cold playoff game in Cincinnati in the early 80s?
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Whats the shoutbox? besides a nickname for my wife?
This may be the funniest think I have ever read on this site.
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You want the best linebacker? Can't argue with that. But I'll bet size in and of itself does mean something to you if I express it this way; lets assume there are two linebackers out there with the exact same abilities and instincts. One is 6'2", 233lbs. The other is 6'3", 245. Which one would you take??? Would'nt you agree that size, in this case, makes the bigger LB the better LB for your team?
Problem is two guys having "the exact same abilities and instincts" is extremely remote.
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Man, can't we just see another year... see how the team responds. See if EJ progresses. Even a discussion to replace him is silly at this point.
We don't know yet... He could be the next Bill Cower or Vince Lombardi...or he could be the next Rich Kotite/Hank Bullough/Marty Mornhinweg.
What scares me is he could be Chan Gailey... just competent enough, but not great to get amazing results out of average guys.
Stop making sense, not what this is about. It is about hyperbole and over reaction.
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I think it's a bit more difficult to get 3 players to restructure than you think. It's tough because you really need to know the details of each contract obviously. Just seems to me if you're around $9 million over the cap, it's tough to sign a free agent to a $60 million dollar contract. I don't think it's impossible but it will mean losing several players you like.
Don't the Saints also have another big deal free agent?
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You do not need to keep close tabs on the Saints to make statements on situations which seem most plausible.
I get that, but the fact remains that the Saints are $8 million over the cap.
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NoSaint who keeps close tabs on the Saints thinks the chances of New Orleans letting him get away are pretty miniscule.
Then there's the question of how desirable a landing spot Buffalo is to a player like Graham.
The Saints would have to do some cutting and some renegotiating to even franchise Graham.
Bills have the money, stranger things have happened, like Mario Williams for example, but I hear you.
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I agree with this - though there is complication - We still need a TE if we draft a WR. If we draft a TE we can likely find a FA plug in at WR that makes it less essential.
I asked this in another thread but got no response. Is there anyway Jimmy Graham hits the free agent market? Saints are $8mil over cap. Graham would solve both the TE and big WR problem.
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Mock drafts show four or five QBs going before the ninth pick. Would you rather they take the fifth or sixth QB or possibly the best LB, TE, or WR? After eight pick the remaining QBs are going to fall to second and third round.
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I like the Mosley pick. The run D is not good, Sunday was painful. I don't know how I feel about the next two picks. Bills really need O line help. LG imperative and could use upgrade at RG, RT.
I was looking at free agents, is there any way Jimmy Graham hits the market? Saints are about $8 mil over cap.
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Not fixing the O-line. Not fixing run D.
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IMO they need, LG, TE, RT, LB and WR in that order. I'd like a guard in free agency and draft one. I wouldn't be against taking a TE in the first round. Who is the best one?
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I don't necessarily think that keeping a QB 6 years is too long. Keeping a guy as your starter for that long would be a mistake unless he is taking you to the playoffs consistently.
I think the better question is how long do you keep starting a guy, not how long do you keep a quarterback.
I think you should only be starting a quarterback that you believe can take you to the playoffs. That should be your decision every year at the start of the season. Best guy starts period. And, if you do not have a guy that you are confident can take you to the playoffs, then you have done a really poor job of putting a talented team together.
At no point during the course of this year did the Bills have a "good enough to get to the team to the playoffs" quarterback on their roster. Well, maybe Matt Flynn (in a stretch), but he never got to play. And that lack of having a talented enough QB on the roster is the fault of the front office. This season was a throwaway from the get go unless you somehow got surprisingly good play out of that position somehow.
So how long do you keep a guy a starter is the better question I think.
Keeping a guy on your roster that you think will take you to the playoffs and possibly all the way is a good idea I think regardless of how many years it might take (without getting ridiculous) as long as you think he is making substantial progress year after year.
Dear Rob's House,
Check paragraph four. See what I mean.
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Ok I'll play. This is harder than I thought but I'll say Vick in Philly.
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This is the first time Wnston has faced an SEC team. There is a reason SEC teams have won the last seven national championships