chris heff
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Back to this thread, I don't have any idea what Jeff Tuel's strengths are. The only playing of his that I have ever seen are preseason and the Cleveland game.
I have never seen Matt Flynn play, but somehow I think I prefer him to Tuel.
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Let's review:
> Buddy is secretly recorded by pranksters voicing his displeasure in Fitz, effectively killing our chance to re-negotiate with him as a quality backup.
> Kevin Kolb is sacked and injured by a wet mat in training camp. He returns to pre-season action just in time for a concussion to end his career.
> UDFA Jeff Tuel - though clearly not ready for real NFL action - plays just good enough in training camp, that our front office is forced to keep him on the active roster.
> Our first top QB draft pick in a decade injures his knee twice in roughly 5 games worth of NFL action.
> Thad Lewis (3rd/4th string) actually plays well enough to give us a chance. So naturally, he goes down with the season on the line.
Yeah. Cursed sounds about right.
Just for the record Manuel was the Bills first pick QB ever.
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If we're going to be honest with ourselves, sustaining two knee injuries in his first six games, including preseason, is most certainly cause for concern. How many games did Phil Simms miss in his first season due to injury? I recall you being extremely critical of Kolb for being injury prone, and, as it turned out, rightly so. But, you seem to be applying a different standard to EJ. I think the value you place on your own opinions/predictions is clouding your judgement.
I was not critical of Kolb because he was injury prone, I was critical because he was given two opportunities as a starter and failed. I believe Simms missed no games his rookie year. It was the next three seasons that he was injured. I'm not sure why that matters. Each of his injuries were more significant than either of EJ's.
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Be careful. He can hear you.
Funny
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But no one calls me the future of the Bills. Come on let's "wake up and smell the coffee." as Ann Landers used to say and take a hard look that EJ may be to injury prone for the NFL.
I've posted it before but I'll do it again.
Would you be happy if after calling it a career a QB had two Super Bowl Rings, was a Super Bowl MVP and two Pro Bowls?
Phil Simms in his first four years had a a separated shoulder, compound fracture of thumb on his throwing hand and torn knee ligaments. He was drafted higher than EJ, I think it was the eighth pick. I lived in NYC at the time a lot of fans hated the pick. Called injury prone and a bust. Not a HOF but his number has been retired by the Giants. I think if you asked Giant fans who they would take given a choice between Simms and Eli Manning, they would take Simms.
I am sure if I tried I could give you many examples. Please stop with the injury prone nonsense.
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Who cares at this point? We have little-to-no information on EJ and his progression. Should we wait 3.5 more years til we decide he doesn't have it? Or, if a QB we like is on the board next year, should we take him as assurances? I know what I'd do. This team is as "hole-less" as it is going to be for the next 2 years. Shore up some points, but get a QB. EJ has not earned us sticking with him next year because of the injury.
Would you be happy with a QB that when all was said and done had two Super Bowl rings, was a Super Bowl MVP and a couple of Pro Bowls?
Phil Simms early career, separated shoulder, broken thumb, and a knee injury. Simms was basically out for three of his first four years. An injury is not a reason to give up on a guy.
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The Lyons pick is a waste! Has anyone on the board ever seen the guys analytics? He not NFL ready.
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Are you guys kidding me? Lyons is not NFL ready! He is a project at best. I don't care about his upside. His decision making and accuracy are questionable. This is just the same old Bills. They will waste the next couple of seasons trying to see if Lyons is the guy.
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EJ's knee will be better when he gets back.
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I am not an apologist at all for this behavior. And to my knowledge Lynch served his punishment and dealtwith all iissues. He is no different then any other DWI/DUI driver.
I am not making excuses for his behavior. In fact I think he owned up to it in the interview. They did not show it all and I am sure more was said but Lynch has grown up. There are a dime a dozen players in the league like him. That speaks for him and against him. They can't all be angels and they won't all make the best decisions. That he served his punishment. That he is making his life better, it seems, says all I need to know. He was a troubled youth, a misguided teen and an ignorant young adult. What he is today we can only wait until tomorrow to find out. But much like everyone else in society I will give him the benefit of the doubt.
After which event did he grow up? The hit and run, the gun charge arrest or the DUI?
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cast stones. Glass houses. Blablabla
I don't expect and want anyone to admit how many times they've driven drunk and not get caught but you'd be surprised.
He grew up in a world where right and wrong are different then what you and I may perceive. And even then, you and I probably have different tolerances for that.
Being an apologist for this type of behavior is exactly the problem. It is why guys like Lynch think they are not accountable. His behavior is stupid and self destructive. It takes a tremendous amount of work to be a professional athlete. It is a way out. Then to jeopardize that with stupidity is absurd.
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Paatt - I, too, am an EJ fan. I think he can be a great one. I do think he needs to improve his footwork, but I believe he has shown the ability to correct mistakes since OTAs.
If EJ is able back on the field for the PIT game, then remains healthy for the rest of the season, that's 11.5 games for his first season. I would consider that a "full season," and not qualify next season as a "second rookie year."
It's my hope that this injury is a blessing in disguise. Thad Lewis is getting some great experience. He is showing (in my opinion) that he's worth holding onto as a very capable backup. EJ - as you've stated - is getting some time to sit and learn and go through the mental reps. He's not been injury-prone in the past. Therefore I'm looking at this as his opportunity to become 100% healthy and stay near 100% health for the remainder of the season. There is no reason to believe that durability is a concern with EJ, in my opinion.
As far as the season goes, I consider the Chiefs game a must win. I also consider it winnable. If we can win this game, then get EJ back for wins against the Steelers and Jets. We're riding into a BYE week with momentum, a winning record, and the easiest stretch of our schedule.
Go EJ and Go Biils!!
I agree, I'm amazed at how many people think this time off the field is hurting him, and yet it seemed as though most thought he should sit behind Kolb for a number of games.
That being said, I would like EJ back for a purely selfish reason. I want to watch him play.
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Fans around the country should take a lesson from Saints fans. If people on this site start to emulate those Saints fans, it would be a start. The only time I have ever been acousted at a game, it was by drunk Bills fans at a game in Miami. I was mistaken for a Dolphins fan, inexcusable.
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Yes, he's really bad
Ultra-conservative on 4th downs and in general
Stupid challenges have become a weekly thing
And he talked a big game that he'd be different in this regard, which he hasn't at all
Have you ever actually watched a Bills game? This team is better and more fun to watch than any Bills team of the last 12 years. They don't quit, they play hard to the final whistle. The Bills of the previous two regimes would have given up 100 yards rushing in the fourth quarter.
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Would you bring them back? If you were the gosh darn owner
Jerry jones fired tom landry when he bought the cowboys
Jerry Jones' Cowboys of the 1990s won because of players like Aikmen and Smith, not because Jones is a brilliant GM or because of Jimmy Johnson. They went to a Super Bowl with Barry Switzer as the head coach for God sake.
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Yeah...there is no doubt we were pretty messy at times. But 3-5 with the schedule we have had is something I can stomach. I expect the Bills to get hot in the second half of the season.
Thad has a good arm he's showing some serious issues with his ball control.
And accuracy, the Bills need EJ back.
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Yeah, that was the difference today.
I was thinking the same thing.
When ralph moves on nobody currently will have a job , marrone , whaley and brandon
And you know this how?
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A win at the SuperDome over the Saints would be a good start.
This
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Well, then - I guess he made the same exact bad kick earlier in the game.....That was obviously a designed kick and not an error.
Both Marrone and Carpenter said he missed it, what more do you want?
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Rob Johnson
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Cue NoSaint's appearance in 3, 2, 1....
This is really funny, considering the next response is NoSaint.
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Yep. Every game has been interesting down to the final 2 minutes. I guess that means we're a profoundly mediocre team. Not good enough to crush opponents. Not bad enough to get crushed.
So we should be either 4-3 or 3-4. But now what? With NO and KC looming, are we going to fall to 3-6? I'll be real excited about the potential of this team if we can go 1-1 in our next two games.
I'm not looking past the Saints nor am I checking it off as a loss. Good team in their house.
Chiefs are going to be in the Bills house. I posted this in a different thread, the Chiefs have played one team with a record of .500 or better, the Bills have played five.
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Or Andy Reid....
The Bills have played five teams that have a record of .500 or better. The Chiefs have played one.
Realistic expectations for Tuel on Sunday?
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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CJ is injury prone we should draft a RB in the first round.