Mr. WEO
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3 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:
Mecole Hardman and Skyy Moore beg to differ, both were 2nd Round picks and let's just say they haven't been consistent producers.
see above
6 minutes ago, finn said:I won't miss Gabe. I can say that even as I recognize the valuable qualities he brought to the team. We need a big WR who can block, get deep, win contested throws, catch the ball in clutch moments, and block downfield. Gabe did some of that, but not all.
lol everyone wants that. How many teams have it?
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1 hour ago, SWATeam said:
MVS had 21 catches for 300 yards this year. That’s not decent WR2/3 territory.
Who are these drafted hits? Rice is one but Moore has been an absolute bust.
OK so MVS is not a good weapon--solidifies my point (Mahomes hasn't been lavished with weapons in KC)
Hardman was a solid pick while he was in KC.
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8 hours ago, SCBills said:
“Chiefs never give Mahomes any WR help”
Tyreek Hill
MVS
RD2 Pick
Trade for a former RD1 Pick
Juju
RD2 Pick
Hollywood Brown
All while having an All-Time Tight EndNot all of that has worked out, but this narrative has.. and will always be.. hilarious
Hill was on the team a year before Mahomes was drafted--and two years before he was starter.
MVS has been a decent WR2/3.
JuJu had a cup of coffee in KC.
As for the drafted guys--KC hits on their WR drafts pretty well. But Mahomes made those 2 guys.
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2 hours ago, BobbyC81 said:
I have a feeling that, after signing Samuel, that they could go BPA in the first round, and take a WR with their 2nd or 4th pick.
no way. Samuel wasn't even the BPA on his crappy Washington team.
Get someone better and younger under a rookie contract.
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Just now, GunnerBill said:
Shakir is already better than Davis is pretty out there as a take. There is less than a year between them in age and about 2,000 yards and 25 touchdowns in production.
the Davis takes over time, out of necessity (due to the hill his detractors insisted on dying on), grew consistently more "out there".
Pretty much all they had at the end was "but, but....catch%!!!"
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13 hours ago, Behindenemylines said:
But can he drop balls like Gabe, that’s what I want to know Just adds to the in-game excitement!
Knox will still provide that entertainment.
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7 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:
Nah, Shakir is already better.
And PLEASE don't spew out stats without context in disagreement
What context do you want? Davis put up that type of play for 3 of his 4 years. You think a rookie will immediately replace that? Shakir still hasn't. He might be, but he hasn't been yet. You simply tossed out "Shakir is already better"....no context.
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On 3/13/2024 at 3:56 PM, DJB said:
I love Diggs he’s been fantastic for us. But I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t a little bitter about how we essentially traded the best WR in the NFL who is considerably younger than Diggs as well.
The thought of Josh with an elite young WR is so tantalizing.
But I’m no longer bitter . Why? Because Jefferson wants more than $30 million per year . That’s insane money and he’s not 10+ million dollars worth more than Stef.
lol, he absolutely is.
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31 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:
He wasn't used much. He seemed to come in late in the game and did ok. His 7 for 7 catches averaged 9 YPC with a TD was nice.
He did pretty well when asked to play. I don't expect too much from him but as a RB#3 the Bills have done a lot worse.
That was almost all in 1 game. otherwise it was 3 games with 2, 4 and 9 yards.
I will agree that he did "ok" in cleanup. But there was little to see as far as vision and burst go. Done a lot worse at RB#? Not recently. Moss as #3 last year before he was traded 5 games in was averaging more YPC. In 2021, Breida had better numbers in 9 games than Johnson did in 10. In 2019 Yeldon had more yards from scrimmage in 6 games than Ty just had. Marcus Murphy in 2018........
17 minutes ago, Motorin' said:Except for the one season where he had 100 touches. He produced over 600 yards from scrimmage and 4 TD's...
He's good enough to catch the ball out of the backfield on important plays in important games.
Not lately.
And after his 600 yards year it has been a steady decline. McD/Dorsey/Brady didn't think he was worth the touches last season, obviously.
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yes, every other GM covets Beane's day 3 picks.....moving up to #4!!!
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2 hours ago, Paup 1995MVP said:
And why are you so meh on Ty Johnson? He ran hard, and showed a good burst and vision whenever he was on the field and his number was called. I think he is fine as a # 2 RB for the time being. We can draft a guy in the later rounds, or bring in another low cost free agent. But our offense is predicated on Josh Allen making plays chucking the ball around the field, and running when he sees an opportunity. Cook and Johnson are a very solid one two punch.
A lot of people are repeating this. He had one appearance of notice (Dallas, 54 yards on 9 carries) running the ball. The rest of his games were 0, 0, 2, 11, 19, 19, 22 and 5 yards. What burst and vision are you referring to?
He had so few touches, how was he 1/2 punch?
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Most of his significant moves have been releasing guys, no?
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2 hours ago, KingBoots8 said:
If he hasn’t flown out to KC yet I’d be shocked. They’ve got about $15m to spend. 2 year backloaded deal makes way too much sense for a team in need of very little aside from a WR and some depth linemenPerhaps Williams is that missing piece to put them over the top.
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56 minutes ago, Ghs24mike said:
Bills must think McGovern is a suitable replacement for Morse
Poyer and Hyde had lost a step. I anticipate our safeties will be better this year.
White hasnt played in 2 years. Really doesnt change anything
We will more than make up for Davis in the draft
Floyd might be the only piece that we "lost"- but a 90% Von this year replaces what he did.
So yes, with those moves, another year in both systems, Milano coming back, and Kincaid and Bernard taking another step yes they will be better.
If they draft a rookie WR who will have 7 TDs and 750-800 and 1st downs on 75% of his catches that would be great.
But Davis was the best WR Beane has drafted.
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8 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:
Agreed on top 5.
And mind you, up until a couple years ago (frankly, the Netflix show) I was a Cousins doubter/hater. But the show made me take a better look at him as a QB, and his performance against the Bills in 2022 alone deserves major respect.
Watching their interactions on the Netflix show and some other Mic'ed Up clips, I'm very sure O'Connell wanted a new QB.
Even if they arent as good a passer as Cousins, O'Connell wants someone he has more control over.
There was definitely a butting of heads and clash of personalities and philosophies there betwen HC and QB.
At this point, anyone they bring in will be a downgrade from Cousins. We'll see if it's worth it just to let O'Connell truly run the show. Seemed to work with Dobbs last year who just trusted O'Connell and did exactly what the HC told him to do. Until it stopped working.
Cousins was O'Connell's best chance to last another year or 2 as Vikings HC.
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5 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:
Dallas cowboys next question
he would have to beat out Rico Dowdle. His history confirms that would not be possible.
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29 minutes ago, Logic said:
Right. He's an RB3 likely making vet minimum. If that was your argument -- "he's no more than an RB3", then you should have just said that from the jump instead of talking about Latavius Murray and Devin Singletary and Zack Moss and who deserved touches in the offense.
If your point is "he's an RB3, he's nothing too special", then I agree. I think he's a pretty GOOD RB3, which is why I like the cheap re-signing, but he's an RB3 nonetheless. So if that's all you're saying, then we're on the same page. We could've saved ourselves some effort here.I was mainly responding to the claim that this guy could be a RB! on other teams, which is absurd.
As a (previous) RB on bad running teams, he couldn't get past bad RB2's. As the Bills R3, he's a warm body for a few touches a game. Singletary and Moss were mentioned in a different context.
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3 minutes ago, Logic said:
No.
Cook needs a breather at times. He's not the biggest guy in the world.
When those breathers were needed, Johnson showed more as a runner and receiver from midseason onward than Murray did. You give the touches to the guy that earns them. Johnson earned them.
Johnson posted 4.4 yards per carry.
Cook 4.7.
Murray 3.8.
That means that after Cook, the next most productive guy when toting the rock was Ty Johnson. So why give those carries to Murray?
I want and expect the Bills to draft or sign an RB2. But when your RB3 can run it for 4.4 yards a pop, catch the ball, and provide a change of pace for your RB1 when needed while ALSO playing special teams -- that's a useful player. That's why I'm glad they re-signed Johnson.Ask McD and Brady. They rarely used Johnson--even as a Breather for Cook (going with Murray instead). Or ask the Jets--they dumped him the season before (at a whopping 5.3 YPC!!). Or Detroit....
Johnson's yards per carry are from samples sizes so small that they are mostly meaningless. The fact that he averaged 22 inches more per carry than Murray doesn't move the needle. Clearly it didn't warrant more touches, and it hasn't throughout his career.
This guy has been on a few bad RB rosters---and he still couldn't separate himself from the pack in the RB room.
I get it--he's a cheap guy to send in for 3 plays a game to give Cook a rest. That's all he's ever been.
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Just now, 78thealltimegreat said:
Solid move there’s a couple teams you could make the case TY could be RB1. Now RB room is set even if they contract a guy which they probably will anyway.
lol name 1
he's on his 3rd team in 5 seasons and has never had 275 yards rushing. In Detroit, he couldn't beat out Bo Scarborough for the RB@. In NYJ, he couldn't beat out Tevin Coleman or Zonovan Knight---and those were bad rushing Offenses, the bar was low.
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8 minutes ago, Logic said:
I don't think you can get much better at RB3 than what Johnson gave the Bills last season.
Aside from playing special teams, he also ran the ball with burst and power and caught it well out of the backfield.
He's probably also making vet minimum or close to it.
Good signing.It really wasn't much: 132 yards rushing and 88 receiving.
Wouldn't it have been better to spread those touches (3-4 per game for Johnson) amongst Murray and Cook?
Bills drafted Singletary and Moss and ultimately let them go because they didn't want to pay them second contract money down the road for what they were getting (the Bills got Hines for Moss--oof). They replaced these two, ultimately, with Murray and Johnson--the former an ancient journeyman, the latter a career journeyman scrub.
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14 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:
I get what you're saying - but they used a 1st round pick to acquire diggs whos been great here. They drafted gabe in the 4th, and right wrong or indifferent he scored a ton of TDs here and split time with brown and sanders. Shakir started slowly but he's becoming a weapon. Knox was a mid round pick whos become a solid tight end. They used a 1st on a move TE last year.
Back of the roster moves for kumerows hollins and sherfields doesn't change how you approach a draft or roster construction imo. They are there for depth and special teams. Honestly im glad we moved on from some of the guys we had - neal felt like a penalty machine last year, i don't recall sherfield making any impact plays on special teams let alone offense (though i feel like he was interfered with more than anyone on a per target basis and got 0 calls), and matakevich cost too much money to be jumped on the depth chart by street free agents from the PS, even as a captain i don't think you can carry a player like that with larger cap hits at the top of the roster.
If there is potential that adding a hollins can improve the special teams unit, i'm for it. The unit was bad in 2023 - bass was bad (be it holding, yips, blocking, snapping, whatever), martin struggled for long stretches, multiple return TDs (jets one cost us a game, and the patriots opened with another), fumbles by harty on returns, like no kick return game to speak of. Harty did break off one TD at a huge time, but if you take out the 96 yard TD his average was right around the same as mckenzie and he twice muffed kicks - so improvements can be made there too.
you can't build a roster by cycling bottom tier/end of career guys who are gone after contributing little for 1 or 2 years....over and over.
Knox isn't progressing at this point. Kincaid could be a stud---if Brady would send him for other than 4 yard sideline dump offs. Shakir may be decent as a 3. Davis (he only split time with Brown for a year and Crowder for a year) took a beating on this board, but nearly all of his catches in 4 years were 1st downs or TDs. Now he's gone and the Bills will have to draft his replacement as none of the guys they have brought in are anywhere close to that.
It's 2024. Other than the Diggs trade forever ago (and to say he's lost a step is to say Death Valley is really hot), what do the Bills have to show for all of these transient moves at WR?
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15 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:
This is an offseason I'm probably going to largely avoid the national media. I just don't think they have a clue about what the Bills were, what they are, and what they will be.
First of all, I love what Beane is doing as we move into the beginning of the new league year right now. Release the old and expensive players and retain a few valuable pieces. All of this in order to get our CAP situation in order moving into future season. Meanwhile, he's accrued 11 total draft picks as ammunition to go get the guys that he wants. We aren't drafting 11 guys and you can bet we'll be trading around in the draft to end up with between 7-9 players. Hopefully 5 or 6 of them turn into SERIOUS contributors in 2024.
Pretty sure all of these are what Beane is banking on.
But honestly, even without the draft and at a snapshot moment in Free Agency when all the Bills have done is re-sign Jones, Epenesa and Lewis and signed Morrow and Hollins, I think the 2024 Buffalo Bills are set up to be a better team than in 2023.
Coaching
First of all, the Bills revamped their coaching staff almost completely. They got a lot younger, so some fresh perspectives are likely coming into the fold. On top of that Joe Brady will have an ENTIRE offseason to build and implement his own offense in Buffalo rather than using Dorsey's offense. Our OC and DC are young and energetic and infectious by reports from all the players and media. And what's more, McDermott will still be able to help Babbich grow where he needs to while focusing on more aspects of the team than he was able to last year.
Special Teams
Bass had the worst year of his career last year, but was a consistent kicker before that. I don't think he goes anywhere but up... and bringing Haack in to (possibly????) compete for the punting job might be a sign Beane & Co. believe holding is a notable part of the problem. And maybe it was???? Remember how bad a holder Bojo was and what happened to the Packers kicking game when he went over there as the punter? If Haack's our punter... he's not a great punter, but hopefully we don't punt a lot
Returners are a dime a dozen to me and we have potential returners in Shakir, Isabella and Hamler already on the roster. I'm sure we'll bring someone else in, too.
Offense
OL-First of all, 4 out of 5 pieces on our OL will be back. And the 1 new piece might end up being a familiar face who played a big role on the team last year. The Bills clearly believe in McGovern as a Center, so I'll trust their judgment. If Edwards is the LG next to him, I'm fine with that, too. He was the starting Guard for the Super Bowl champions a few years ago so he has the talent and experience. Alec Anderson seems like a dark horse to come in and start at that position, though. We'll still very likely draft a young IOL, though. Plenty of other young developmental OL talent to be excited about with the likes of Van Demark and Gourage. and then we'll have what I believe will be one of the best right sides of an offensive line in the NFL with Torrence and Spencer Brown next year. And Dawkins gonna be Dawkins. As far as the IOL moves, I was listening to Daniel Jeremiah on his Move the Sticks podcast yesterday and he was saying how he spoke with Brandon Beane relatively recently about OL and Beane was talking about how it's becoming more and more important to have a more stout, strong IOL nowadays than more of an athletic IOL with what's happening on the defensive side with DTs. I thought it was interesting and seems like that might be a reason for the Morse release and move for McGovern.
QB-See above about Joe Brady. Otherwise, not much needs to be said here. Let's just hope that our freak QB stays healthy this year and doesn't get injuries that affects his throwing motion the way he did the last 2 seasons. If he has to sit for a week or 2, I think we should all feel a little better with Trubisky than Kyle Allen
WR-See above about Joe Brady. I think Diggs was hurt in the 2nd half of the season. I don't know what game that was where he was thrown to the ground, but I think he was playing hurt for awhile. Yes, he's getting older, but Diggs is still a #1 WR. He just needs more talent around him, and with Shakir's development last year, we'll likely see him as a bigger part of the offense. I really think either Isabella or Hamler makes this roster. I don't know which one, but one of them is going to be our 4th or 5th WR/gadget guy/ returner. Mack Hollins feels like a roster bubble guy. Justin Shorter might be the guy to replace Siran Neal as the gunner and will be sitting in the 5th or 6th WR spot. So a lot depends on who we draft at WR. And I think everyone knows we're drafting a WR in round 1 or 2. Whoever it is, let's hope he's better than Gabe. Long term I think odds are he will be.
TE-A healthy Dawson Knox and a year 2 Dalton Kincaid with an entire offseason to work on his game???? Sign me up!!!
RB-We all saw the weapon James Cook can be. Dude just needs to spend plenty of time on the Jugs machine. RBs are a dime a dozen... we'll find a couple to fill roles and be just fine.
Defense
admittedly D is our biggest worry. But I think we have less to worry about than feared.
DE-Groot was hampered by a foot injury most of last year, which was obvious. Von was clearly still recovering from his ACL tear, which was obvious. I expect both to be better in 2024. I don't really understand those who think Von just all of the sudden sucks. He had an ACL tear and tried coming back to play full time less than a year after it happened. Most athletes say they take a couple years to feel like themselves after an ACL tear. Just ask Tre White. Epenesa re-signing is exciting! If he takes another step in 2025 then our top 3 rotational edge rushers would be an upgrade from last year even with Floyd leaving. I almost anticipate Lawson coming back, but even if he didn't and Jonathan and Kline were our 4th an 5th DEs, that would still be pretty solid depth.DT- Oliver and Jones is a lethal duo. Just getting Jones back and healthy for a full season will be an upgrade. And Jones has been pretty healthy for his career up until this past year. I don't think he missed a regular season game in the previous 5-7 seasons. But that's it for DTs other than Ankou, who frankly might make the team and just might be an upgrade on Settle/Ford/Phillips. But we're going to draft at least one and acquire one... maybe post June 1st as our late offseason Floyd signing. But it's all about Oliver and Jones, really. We didn't have Daquan most of last season. If we do in 2024, that's an upgrade.
LB-Everything I said above about Daquan Jones and what the impact would be in getting him back is amplified with all of the same stuff for Milano. Losing Milano last year was the most devastating thing that happened to our team. He was absolutely unbelievable to start the year. His injury isn't the kind of injury that lingers once he rehabs and heals, so I'd expect him to be back to himself. Top that off with the now-known-commodity of Terrel Bernard and we might have the best starting duo of LBs in the league. Throw in Dorian Williams, who I believe will be used as an X-factor in a league that is shifting more and more towards 3 LB alignments because of the heavier personnel and the LB Unit will already be better in 2024.
CB-Our starting CBs are pretty much all studs. Taron, Rasul and Benford are all really good to exceptional. I really do think Elam still has a decent shot with this new coaching staff and potentially new (maybe only slightly) system that will utilize some more man principles. I wouldn't sleep on him finding a way into a significant or even starting role. When he does get on the field, he makes plays. We'll draft a CB or 2. We always do. The difference will be that there will be room on the roster for them to actually make the team rather than get poached by other teams the way Alex Austin or Nick McLeod were. And don't sleep on the 2 guys on our PS. Ingram might make the team to play a critical backup role.
S-Personnel-wise, this is likely the position we have to worry about the most. But at the same time, Sean McDermott throughout his entire career has always turned other teams' trash into his treasure when it comes to the Safety position. From the Eagles to the Panthers to the Bills, you can go and track all the safeties that have come through those teams and find quality to elite contributors. It's actually pretty insane the way he does it. I expect he does it again. We'll likely get a guy in FA and draft a guy, but I'm really not gonna be shocked if our starting Safety tandem is Taylor Rapp and Cam Lewis. Everyone is going to freak out if that happens. I won't. McDermott knows the safety position better than anyone. I don't even think that's hyperbole. We'll be good.
Now... am I predicting Super Bowl???? Heck no!!! Too many variables always come into play and the playoffs are one-and-done so you just never know. However, the widespread national narrative and narrative among some on this board is that Buffalo's Super Bowl Window is closed and what we're seeing this offseason is the start of a rebuild.
Not a rebuild folks, We're re-tooling. And the tools we'll have in 2024 will be sharper, shinier and more effective!!! I can't wait to see who else we add in FA. I can't wait to see who we draft, but outside of the positions we just need to bring in some bodies to fill them (RB, DT, & S), I'd feel pretty good about where we are even at this moment. The great thing is that we still have additions coming.
It's gonna be a great 2024 season!!! Go Bills!!!
Why do you feel you have special insight that the entirety of "national media" doesn't have?
Why is the fact that the Bills have inexperienced young/energetic (according to the "media"--would that be "the national media"? lol) a benefit?
Elam made "a" big play. Otherwise, it seems McD thinks little of this kid. Milano tore his ACL and broke his leg. What in your experience allows you to conclude that combination of injuries "does not linger"?
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15 hours ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:
Brown Bease and Sanders were all pretty solid.
So the long list would be...
Roberts - KR/PR which after seeing mckenzie attempt to do this i wasn't at all shocked they wanted someone there who could i dunno... catch the ball on the return. 2yr 4.6M.
Kumerow - Less than 1M per year and essentially on a rookie deal. Not sure why i should care on his age when he's essentially the same price as anyone else. I also don't think having him prohibited the team from adding other players.
Crowder - Got hurt. Came off a decent couple seasons. 1yr 2M. Like 0 risk, and was a bease replacement.
Harty - Returner. Overpay. Didn't work out. Had a built in out in his contract.
Sherfield - 1.7M is again nothing. 750k dead cap had he been beaten out by a rookie.
Harty was the only one in the group of "bums" that they spent any money on. And in 2023 his AAV was still lower than what they spent on brown and bease in 2019, and Sanders in 2021.
The long list is this:
Benjamin, Kerley, Andre Holmes, Deonte Thompson, Robert Foster, McKenzie, Terrell Pryor (lol), Duke Williams, Kumerow, Emanuel Sanders, Crowder, Brown/Beasley (again!!), Tanner Gentry, Harty, Sherfield....
It isn't about how much money was NOT spend on these guys (they are all bottom salary feeders anywhere)--it's that with a roster really in need of WR help perennially, this is the parade that briefly passed through the locker room. They were low/zero impact signings who were usually quickly dumped..
Beasley and Brown were solid pickups. Beasley/Brown 2.0 midseason was beyond bizarre--a desperation move by a GM still struggling to find ball catching weapons.
Now it seems the Bills are going all in on the draft , hoping for a hit at WR, to solve this serious and chronic gap.
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Marquise Brown going to the Chiefs
in The Stadium Wall
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"big WR who can block, get deep, win contested throws, catch the ball in clutch moments, and block downfield"
you first listed a bunch of WR1s (except Higgins, Watson...).
A fraction of those guys might do everything/fit all criteria on the poster's wish list. a good number of them aren't over 6 feet tall, for starters.
The second group has several depth guys. less likely to check all those boxes