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Nice post C.Biscuit.
The only part I disagree with(and it's just the wording really) is the last sentence. HOFers can be found all over the draft(generally speaking). Drafting higher just theoretically increases your chances of landing one.
The situation a player is drafted into I think also effects how their careers pan out. Moulds IMO was a good example of this. He was a great WR........but if he had top players around him for his career(instead of the rubbish he generally had) it's not ridiculous to think he could have put up HOFer level numbers.
Eric Moulds was a freak. Andre Johnson reminds me of Moulds and I think it's a great point that he could have really piled up some big numbers with a different team. In comparison Lee Evans doesn't come close to dominating like Eric did and I think that says alot about the two players. I love me some Lee Evans and he is a very good reciever but he is also very limited. IMO to trully be considered a great wideout you need to be able to get it done against any coverage. He just doesn't have that superior strength to fight through physical double coverage and break tackles. The great ones do it all. Eric Moulds was that type of player.
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I think your posts are worthwhile reads, to date.
Thanks Cincy I appreciate it. I've been reading here for two seasons now and I think it's a great site. You can't get too worked up, everyones opinion has value. You always bring fresh ideas as well.
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:DThank you! If you have a problem with the rest of us being sick of being mired in mediocrity then go become a Maple Leafs fan. They've been swallowing the "we're almost a contender" pill for 40+ years. They love pollyanna fans like you.
43 posts and he's "making a statement". Yeesh.....
You people and your post number are a joke. I have alot of respect for the football knowledge on this site and enjoy talking the game with everyone but come on are you going to haze me next? I don't have a problem with complaints about mediocrity but some of you make it sound like you mope around all day because of the Bills. I've seen people wish death on Marv, wish death on Dick, wish injury upon our own players, threaten to quit being a fan, threaten to boycott products, threaten to publicly protest, and then post about the draft a day later. I reserve the right to call those people an embarassment to the Bills fanbase.
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If we had no interest we wouldn't be on this board. There have been only a couple people who have threatened to stop being fans, & they were ridiculed mercilessly. The negative people on this board (I am one myself) have every right to be negative about this team. I prefer to think of it as bitching rather than whining, & you & your 43 posts have NO business telling others on this board where to take their garbage.
I can't have an opinon because I only have 43 posts? You do have every right to be negative, if that's how you want to spend your time knock yourself out. I have plenty of complaints about this team too and I post them all the time. I also have the right to say that somebody's dramatics are shameful if I want. So run along and flex your 1400 post muscle to somebody else because I could care less.
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Levy was great at keeping the players egos soothed. This is important on a team full of stars. I don't however think that he was this great football mind that many make him out to be. He had chances to win it all with a great team and it didn't happen. This doesn't make him a "bad" coach. It is what it is.
At the end, he was too old and spent games standing next to Mauch screaming incoherently at the refs. Even Ralph must have seen this and dumped him. As for his stint as GM, he was pretty bad but Ralph deserves most of the blame for bringing him back in the first place. It is a comedy of errors, so stupid that it is hard to believe.
You are downplaying Levy as a coach IMO, but that's alright you are entitled to your opinion as well. His second tenure with the Bills is certainly open for debate and well ralph is always going to be ralph. I have read alot of your posts over the last two years (read alot before posting). I always enjoy your post game breakdowns and share alot of the same opinions as you. The team is so jacked up in terms of philosophy it's just plain sad. The model should be easy to follow, do what the Steelers, Pats, and Ravens do and play like a northeast team. It is hard to believe that they can't even come close to that.
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The Bills are usually in the mix when it comes to free agency. They don't get involved with the top-tier players but they do go after the next best. The Bills need to hit on a couple mid-level free agents and pull 3 or 4 good players from the draft. I suppose thats what all tems need but the organization hasn't had a great offseason in a long time.
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Sorry, the 2007 Giants. Better.
There's someone who gets it!!
Other than the Giants I'd say the 85 Bears. They were coached extremely well and weren't afraid to let The Fridge run it in at the goal line. They were a fun team too!
I don't know about crowning the 07 Giants as the best team ever. They got the job done against the pats and we are all eternally grateful but lets not get carried away. Eli Manning is still Eli Manning and he'd get exposed badly against some of the alltime greats. They also needed a few miracles to win the one they got. Those Giants really got after the QB but so did many other teams. Just my opinion.
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My biggest problem with the Bills this year is that they have no identity. They haven't had one in a long time. Given our current players I would have thought it would be running the football. It turned out to be shotgun formations and vanilla defense. I guess my point is the team should pick an area that is going to be the strength of what they want to do and commit most of their offseason efforts towards that. I want the bills to dominate in certain areas and fill holes later.
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They may indeed have thought that. Truth-be-told: I didn't have Ellis on my draft board last year at all. To me, he appeared slow off the snap, weak at the point of attack, and very limited in terms of his arsenal of pass-rush moves.
By contrast, the game-speed, variety of techniques, tenacity, and versatility English displayed on a game-to-game basis really stood out to me. I wanted to see how he'd hold up against a higher level of competition, so I recorded every minute of Senior Bowl practices and the game itself. He looked fast, really fast. Almost dominant at times. Since I was already well-aware of his speed, what really caught my eye were two other things: (1) his ability to drop his hips at top speed to get full extension of his arms on the bull rush and (2) the way he plants his feet (again, at full speed) at the corner while simultaneously dropping his shoulder to get "small" around the reach of the tackle.
I watched him go up against Tony Kropog of Tulane (whom many scouting services have rated as a second round pick) in practice on Tuesday, and it was really impressive. In back-to-back plays, English used his speed to fly around Kropog to the outside (employed his shoulder-duck maneuver) for a would be sack; then--having set him up on the previous play--used a club technique to disengage Kropog's hands and bull-rushed him straight back into the QB. This kind of stuff is what you really love to see from a young guy with a lot of raw talent.
The only hang-up on English, which I have to admit bothered me a little, is that he'll occassionally get too fancy for his own good and try to use too many moves off the snap. When that happens, he makes it easy for an OT to get inside his shoulder pads, which any DE will tell you is a proverbial death sentence. However, he got coached up a little bit in Monday's practice and I think I only saw it once or twice from him the rest of the week.
I could keep going on about him, but I think I'll leave it at that...I really love the guy (not like that, not that there's anything wrong with that).
That's alot of good info on English, thanks. I think that there are 7-9 really good D-lineman in this draft. If the Bills get lucky and focus on defense, they could really score some talent.
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Orakpo and his hype is exactly what we heard last year about Gholston. I think he falls to Buffalo and the team wiil have a very difficult choice to make.
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I love Marv Levy to death and I'm extremely greatful that he was our HC for the time that he was here, but I will say this, My father and I always go back and say that we should have thrown one more pass before the Norwood debacle and tried to get a little closer for that FG attempt. Other than that,
You could be right. I'm sure he's gone over it many times as well. My point is you shouldn't sum up a coachs career based on a few playcalls you didn't like. WTF? The man took his team to 4 SB's in a row and beat solid competition every year to get there. The Bills ran into a couple monsters in the big game. That team would have been a dynasty in alot of other eras. Sorry he didn't live up to Bill's standards.
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I will say this.....there is no better way to defend against the pass than by knocking the opposing quarterback on his ass. Sacks and consistent pressure will cause turnovers. Even the best dbs can't cover a pro wideout for 10 seconds. It isn't possible.
And to be clear, while I do not discount the need for a good passing attack, I make the case that running the football is of more importance to cold weather teams than it is to warm weather or dome teams.
I agree with you on all points. We should be playing steeler ball but we don't even come close in style.
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Look, the Bills lost the 1st superbowl because of stupid coaching. Thurman should have seen the ball more. The Giants carved up the field in time consuming drives and Levy answered with a no huddle. Great.
Brady? Like it or not, he is an all time great. He also has a terrific OL, that is equally good at run and pass blocking. Also, look at the monsters on their D Line and consider where they were drafted. Were they built by drafting 1st round safeties and corners?
McNabb? He is good too. So if you don't mind me asking, wtf is your point?
Where did I say that teams shouldn't throw? Every team needs a balanced attack, but the Bills can't make a yard or 2 on 3rd and short. Holding their opponents on 3rd and short is an even bigger joke. The teams you named are big and aggressive. The Superbowl Bills were stocked with talent but they lacked a coach to take them over the top. Sorry if anyone I offend with this, but it is true.
I can understand taking a stand against Marv the GM but now he was what held the team back as a coach. The Bills were put in a position to win the only superbowl they should have one. The truth is that the skins and cowboys rank up there with some of the greatest teams of all time. Take a break from the crusade your embarassing yourself.
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I hate to say it but the 92 Cowboys. I can't think of a team as deep and talented. They are easily my most hated group as well.
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Most of which were during the glory years of Kelly, Marv et al ... except for those glory years and the AFL years, this has been a consistently mediocre franchise with occasional forays into above average and bad. In this day and age of parity, you can get better in one season ... we haven't gotten better in 9 years ...
The nfl has alot of franchises that don't have anything that can be referred to as glory years. The last nine years have been mediocre no question about it, but in retrospect those glory years put the bills in elite company. Besides you said it yourself we can get alot better in one season. The original poster was trying to say that we are the ultimate losers and that's just not true.
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If you read what Cris Collinsworth has to say about Turk Schonert,his golfing buddy, He is not one to lack confidence almost to a fault. Its my take that he wanted to build a high powered passing offense and it simply didn't work,although it wasn't for lack of trying,constant throwing instead of running the ball.
The Bills were a total passing team for most of the season, it wasn't until the Cleveland game that Schonert started using play action passing regularly. The Bills were in constant shotgun formations throughout the season.
Schonert might have been somewhat frustrated at Edwards because he kept using the check down for various reasons,so he kept calling passes. Seriously,what would you have Edwards do if he doesn't see anyone open down field,throw an interception,hold the ball and take a sack or use the dump off?
If Lee Evans is covered,which was most of the time, his only real other option was Josh Reed. When Josh Reed was injured the offense really stalled in the passing game,no other receiver stepped up.
Lynch had 47 receptions for 300 yards receiving and Jackson had 37 receptions for 317 yards,that's a ton of throws to the backs.
Stating all this, the Bills really need another quality deep speed receiving threat to help take some pressure off both Lee Evans and Trent Edwards.
I think evereyone can agree that getting the ball down field a little more is something the offense needs to improve on. It would go a long way in opening things up IMO. Truthfully the blaim lies on a few people. First and foremost, a pass first offense in buffalo, with the current players we have, is plain stupid. Second Trent needs to learn how to let it go a little more. The pass protection has been great at times and it's not logical to think that nobody was ever open. I can remember quite a few times when it seemed like an eternity that he had the ball, only to get a checkdown or throw away. Another quality playmaker at WR or TE would help lee out alot.
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I don't think that Edwards mentally is overwhelmed by the complexity of the playbook. I do however wonder if physically he is limiting to a coordinator. His mistakes seem more physical than mental. Many of his interceptions come from under thrown balls or off target passes. His ability to read a defense and deliver to the right guy seems pretty good. Execution is the problem, at least on anything medium to deep. The inability to even take a chance downfield is crippling to a coordinator. Even when given ample time, he doesn't pull the trigger. This makes for a fairly stale game plan. JP on the otherhand was way overwhelmed mentally. HA HA leave it to the Bills, always screwing with us.
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Hmmm talented but slow. I think we'd be better off looking at free agents and use our early draft picks on linemen that can help us from day one.
I agree the word slow is a tough sell for me at 11. It sounds like he might have an attitude problem as well. I know that some posters want a few thugs on the team but he is not talented enough IMO. I hope they go in another direction.
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My comment on "retarded" was in response to the initial poster's use of it, not in making predictions. It's not cool to go around calling other posters "retarded" and "retard".
My apologies, I misunderstood you.
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If McNabb wants out, he'll get out. I think he's tired of the criticism. Too much of it was put on that overtime comment he made. People forget real quickly he's still an outstanding quarterback. And besides DeSean Jackson, Philly doesn't have much at receivers. Curtis has been fading out long before he got to Philly. Westbrook is injured all the time. McNabb is a good quarterback. And he almost beat the Cardinals himself.
McNabb is a great QB. This is why I think the eagles will ultimately do everything in their power to keep him.
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The Bills are NOT going to trade Lynch and even though Peters didn't deserve a Pro Bowl selection, unless he acts like a bigger jackass than he did last off-season, they won't trade him either.
The Bills definitely need upgrading at certain positions, but the biggest problem is coaching. Unfortunately, we are going to have to live with Jauron until at least mid season. If the team is 1-7 or 2-6 at mid season, Jauron could get the ax. Here's the Bills 2009 opponents:
Home: Miami, New England, N.Y. Jets, Houston, Indianapolis, Cleveland, New Orleans, Tampa Bay
Away: Miami, New England, N.Y. Jets, Jacksonville, Tennessee, Kansas City, Atlanta, Carolina
I don't see the Bills winning more than 3-5 games next season unless maybe Favre retires. So depending on the schedule, Jauron could very well be out of a job by the end of October.
And ease up on the "retarded" stuff, ok?
Good point. Making record predictions for next season in January, is not retarded.
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What gets old is listening to Jauron's press conferences when he mentions how hard it is to win in the NFL, how hard his players play, how hard they practice, that they just need to try harder, all the while being the only head coach in the AFC's east division that doesn't hold outdoor practices when the weather gets chilly. Our head coach is a wimp and our players play like a bunch of wimps. Sorry if the truth hurts pal.
I understand that Jauron is not the greatest coach. I really do get it. I don't however get over the top dramatic and throw in the towel for 2009. The truth is you are the guy that walks around and tries to make a situation seem hopeless. It's not even close to hopeless and your negative outlook must make for a fun life.
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These things tend to be smoke screens and mirrors but Lurie went on record and publicly stated that McNabb would be back next year as the team's starting QB. It's hard not to believe the owner on this.
Besides, the Eagles jut came from the NFC Championship game, do they really think they'd be better off without McNabb? Especially with the unproven and untested Kolb behind him.
You are most likely correct on this. The eagles aren't going to let him walk, after his performance at the end of the year. Kolb has looked terrible besides.
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I never said they were on par with the 0-16 Lions. Just inferring that after the 2009 season the Bills will be considered one of the worst teams in the league. I'm basing this prediction on how they finished the 2008 season and looking ahead at the 2009 schedule. Hopefully the team will be able to turn around their fortunes in 2010 with a new coach just like the Dolphins did this past year. I see the 2009 season as hopeless with Dick Jauron as their head coach.
You have a horrible way of looking at life my friend. Why not hope for the team to turn it around in 2009? Does it get in the way of your I hate Jauron agenda? What is more important to you?
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Lee Evans would tear it up in the right offense! I fully agree with you on that. I guess the only point I was trying to make is that a physical guy can get it done even when an offense is struggling. Those strength and speed guys can take a short catch and break tackles to make it a huge play. The great ones can snag a ball at it's highest point and win jump balls. This goes along way with average Qb's and inconsistent play.