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On 7/18/2023 at 12:31 AM, 4merper4mer said:
He also had beautiful hair. And he wasn’t very good.
Terrance McGee had the greatest non-touchdown kickoff return in the history of football.
Don Smith scored the first Super Bowl TD in Bills history.
I’m guessing that McGee had about a 90% chance of scoring a TD on that play when he got to around the NO 20 yard line. It was a total fluke that he went down. If he had scored that TD, it would have easily been one of the 10 greatest TD’s in the history of the game.
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On 6/20/2025 at 5:26 PM, mushypeaches said:
He’s got to at least get to a SB. No QB since Warren Moon has made it without that criteria
Fouts never made it to a SB.
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Pete Gogolak. How many Bills can you honestly say revolutionized an aspect of the game (first “sidewinder” style kicker). If you look at his stats, however, they are laughable bad compared to modern kickers.
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Some of the comments on this thread are pretty silly. Bills aren’t cutting Coleman this year. I doubt he will be out of the league in 3 - 5 years. He certainly has the talent to be a productive NFL receiver for a long time. To me, the key is using him correctly. I’m in the camp of those who think he can flourish as a big slot receiver. That may not end up being in Buffalo but some team will be able to utilize his skill set.
i’ve commented before that it would have been very, very difficult to trade up to obtain BTJ in Coleman’s draft year. In hindsight, would our #1 and Kincaid been enough to get it done? Fan base would have been screaming following Kincaid’s solid rookie season but Bills don’t seem to have any interest in a two TE set so Knox and Kincaid seem redundant at this point.
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If the Bills had won a SB over the last five years (or even appeared in one), this topic is moot. Because we’ve been so painfully close, it’s easy to point to Beane’s misses as the reason (Ford instead of AJ Brown or Metcalf, Basham instead of Humphrey, KC jumping us for McDuffie and we whiff on Elam, he’ll even Oliver instead of Wilkins, Simmons or Lawrence). But as been pointed out many, many times every GM, even Veach and Rosman have misses. The teams referenced here - SF, KC and Philly - have all had huge misses. SF picking Lance #3, Philly Reagor over Jefferson or Higgins, KC with numerous whiffs over the years. If we win or even reach the SB this year, all this goes away.
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1 hour ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:
NO INTERNATIONAL GAME FOR THE BILLS!!!!!
Absolutely AWESOME news, and we have the extra home game this season!!!!!!
That is awesome news! No international games, extra home game, relatively weak division, NFC South, AFC Central (at least Pittsburgh and Cleveland). Could not ask for anything much better than that.
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If I'm remembering correctly, Tony Greene's injury killed us that year. Greene was heart and soul of the defense.
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Thought it might be nice to have a quick break from draft talk. The run ‘n shoot offense was groundbreaking in its late 80’s early 90’s heyday. Four wides, no TE, QB under center with one RB. Houston Oilers were primary users. Went away when D’s decided best way to attack it was make sure QB was hit every time he attempted a pass. Of course, four wides are still in use as occasional formation.
What’s interesting is that with one significant addition, Bills would be in a unique position to run a ton of run ‘n shoot. Would that happen? Of course not. I think McDermott and Brady would put four TE’s out there if they had the opportunity. But look at our personnel on offense and what makes a run ‘n shoot click.
Great offensive line? Check.
RB who can cause havoc running against 6 DB’s? Check.
Mobile QB with great arm who can also do major damage running the ball against 6 DB’s? Check and check.
Two dangerous slot receivers? Shakir yes but also Coleman. A lot of chatter last year about how Coleman could be a real weapon as a big slot. Samuel #3.
Two outside wides? Well, no. But imagine if we had acquired DK Metcalf with Palmer on the other side.
Of course, you don’t want Josh running as much as he did in the past so the time has already past when this would be a go to option. Neverless, I’d like to see a healthy dose of four wides this year, especially if we add Moore or someone similar. I’d like to see Coleman flourish as a big slot.
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20 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:
Cornacopia
Really wanted Reggie Corner to make it, even more than Ed Wang.
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42 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:
Paul Seymour is who you are thinking of, I suspect. Drafted 7th overall by the Bills, he actually played OT at Michigan and converted to TE in the pros. But he was basically an elite blocking TE. He started 68 games for the Bills and had only 62 career receptions.
In 1978, the Bills traded Seymour to the Steelers for Frank Lewis, who became an excellent player for the Bills. Seymour failed his physical (foot injury), was shipped back to the Bills, and never played another down.
Paul Seymour’s brother, Jim Seymour, was one of the most famous college athletes of the mid-60’s. He was a WR on great Norte Dame teams of that era. Paul’s NFL career was truly unique. College All-American OL to pro TE but essentially another tackle on one of the great OL’s of all time (Dave Foley, Reggie McKenzie, Jarvis/Montler, Joe D, Donnie Green and Seymour).
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8 minutes ago, jcamm1966 said:
Next year 2 ones , could be 2 top 10 picks
Problem for the Browns, even with 2 top 10 picks in 2026, unless one is #1st overall, they’re not getting Arch Manning.
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So when did elite DE’s start to look like safeties (Carter, Chase Young, Parsons)?
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12 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said:
Rob Johnson got Jacksonville a 1st rounder for doing the same thing in preseason.
Not true. He had great game in season opener. The hilarious thing was that he was injured during the game and didn’t finish it. Harbinger of the things to come!!
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This is totally 20/20 hindsight but Kincaid could have been a useful chip to obtain BTJ before last year’s draft. Would our 2024 #1, Kincaid and a 2025 #3 been enough to move up to grab him? It would have solved a couple of problems. Knox, Morris, Davidson still a healthy TE room and with Thomas a stud boundary WR.
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That was an insane WR draft the year Moulds came out. Probably the best of all time - Keyshawn Johnson, Terry Glenn, Marvin Harrison, Moulds, Owens. I'm sure I'm missing a couple. Talent wise, I think Moulds was as good as any of them. He would be a perfect fit for the 2025 Bills.
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I'm surprised we're spending a dime on the OL. Other than QB and maybe RB and TE, it's as solid as it gets.
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Not sure what Beane is up to in FA. That’s based on the assumption that the strength of the upcoming draft is DE and DT.
I get the Palmer signing. We needed a boundary WR and Palmer is an intriguing option (great analytics vs. meh production).
I like the Forest signing. Again, intriguing prospect. Bosa, iI understand in the context of risk - reward.
What I’m surprised at is three relatively big money signings along the DL. I’m surprised we didn’t target a CB in FA and rely on the draft to bolster the DL.
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I think Shavers and Hardy have legit shots at making final roster. Assuming no additional FA signings, WR might be Shakir, Coleman, Palmer, Samuel, Shavers and a mid-round speedster draft pick. Hardy backing up Johnson in the nickel.
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I don’t particularly follow the Chargers so this is more of a layman’s perspective but if Palmer is so good, why did Herbert spend the season throwing the ball to McConkey to the exclusion of the rest of the receivers on the team? Why are Palmer’s stats so meh?
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I like the fact that KC has six games against Herbert, Nix and Smith (and Harbaugh, Peyton and Carroll). Smith isn’t that great but a helluva lot better than what they had.
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At this point, it had to be a Chief initiation ritual, right?
1 minute ago, wppete said:Who are the Bills 5? Miller is one. Was Azaria arrested? I don’t recall that.
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Jesus. This is absurd. One first down and you’re in FG position, especially now the best kickers make 60 yarders like extra points. Do away with kickoffs altogether and start on the 20. Onside “kicks” put it at the 40 with 4th and either 15, 17 or 20.
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Don’t tell me that they are going to cut Martin & Lewis? Hey, pretty lady!
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The general consensus before the draft is that the Bills wouldn’t be one player or a handful of plays away from a Super Bowl because of the loss of Diggs, Davis, Morse, White, Poyer and Hyde. I think a lot of folks are forgetting that fact. Maybe that was Beane’s thinking in accumulating some extra picks instead of going all in and overpaying for a blue chip WR.
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PFF top 10 defensive lines
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If we really and truly have the fifth best D line in football this year, we win the Super Bowl. End of discussion. I have my doubts.