ColdBlueNorth

I agree that Schobel can be dominant, and he plays smart and has been a solid tackler. What has been lacking is the QB pressure and sacks. I just think he is playing hurt and does not have that push that he needs. He is pretty light as a DE and relies on a speed game ala Jason Taylor, take away the speed and what you have left is a pretty solid tacking lineman, but not much in the way of moves to elude linemen. He also draws double teams - not all the time, but often enough where the rest of the line should be stepping up. He is far from alone, has Kelsey's name been called much this year for making any big plays?

Wow, you got to see that game...talk about getting robbed. Sorry to hear that. Now as for this whole topic wording thing, I can't say that I really feel strongly enough to "blast" anyone and I already went on record that it was a poor choice of words "nuff said" and all that.

probably right G.Host. I'm not going to argue with a vet. My point was only that the topic of Fewell's inept game plan and lack of adjustment was a worthy topic - even if stumbled upon by the most politically inept of posters. How are you doing G.Host I am making my rounds catching up with those whom I have agreed with (or blasted) in the past? LeftOverture

Wasn't me... Pat worked his a$$ off after they let Ted Washington go to try to carry a subpar defense on his shoulders. Do you remember "the package" Ted and Pat in the middle. NO ONE, I repeat NO ONE ran on us period....memories

I think just about everyone agrees that some good can come out of this, if it serves as a reality check and IF our young guys can build off of it. Personally, I hope they make our offensive line jog for two weeks straight. I am tired of hearing how we have the biggest (fattest) offensive line in football. If old Al Davis owned our team he would have fired everyone including the waterboy - of course the Raiders will suck until he goes to that great owners box in the sky.

Rock solid... dude your memory is going bad, but in a good way

I am so with you on that one. I never will understand why Ralphy or his hand-picked GMs will bet the farm on some guy with a "high motor" and potential, while letting a true stud leave town. Winfield and Williams - I live in MN and my friends here that watch the Vikes always have to remind me how much they appreciate their farm team in Buffalo. I forget, was that Donahoe's brilliant idea?

Good to be back, although I have been busy supporting my local Bills Backers here in Cold Blue MN. Just haven't been out to the boards for a long while. I guess watching brutal games on a big screen with my fellow Bills Backers here was sufficient torture:) I forgot how good it felt to vent or celebrate here after games, and it was good to see the names of Promo, VOR, cablelady, Lori, Rockpile, Simon and several others that I recognize.

Wow, its been a long time since I posted but some I certainly recognize your name. Probably should have kept my old one handy so the vets might remember me. "LeftOverture"

Too funny! And I thought I was going to get run over for not being sensitive enough.

You surprise me John, I thought that you would see that as a clear helmet to helmet hit. Not dirty, but against the rules none-the-less. For ticky tacky penalties, I thought the roughing the passer penalty last night against the Steelers was out of line - a clean hit just as the QB released the ball... lame.

That is a great analogy Baltimore runs the trap defense like no other NFL team - win field position, no turnovers, a great forecheck, pressure the other team into turnovers, and finally score off of their mistakes. Can make for a boring game, but I thought their game against Pittsburg was fun to watch.

Oh, I am extreemly happy we are 4-1, I just am not very comfortable with our lead in the division after that performance. Also, if all we are after is a respectable amount of wins then we probably are fine, but if what we really want is a team that can take command of a game from beginning to end and maybe make a respectable run into the playoffs, then we have a ways to go. Outside of Seattle we have had to come back against every team we have played and on Sunday we got spanked. If it aint broke, it could certainly use a tune up. Hope is not a strategy, but still I hope that this was the one really bad stinker of a game that they needed to get out of the way. Now our guys have a bye week to make adjustments and get healthier.

So you are saying that it was a helmet to helmet hit, but only because they are the same height?

I misplaced my reply bud, but I did agree that it was a poor choice of words. I was pretty frustrated with Perry's game plan as well.

They did look flat yesterday. I was thinking that maybe they were taking that "unflappable" attitude a bit too far and had drifted into a coma:)

But I agree with you that it was a poor choice of words.

is that a family guy reference - because THAT was funny.

I think it was a figure of speech. Although there is a connotation regarding the mentally handicap, the rudimentary definition of "to cause to move or proceed slowly; delay or impede" fits pretty well with Perry's approach to that game and making adjustments.

I agree. We are going to face other teams that can actually pass the ball, if our team is going to make a run at the playoffs we are going to need to figure out how to pressure a passing offense and force turnovers, or at the very least get off the field on 3rd downs.

I don't know what all the other replies have to do with anything you said, but I agree. Fewell never adjusted to what was happening on the field. The scheme didn't work from beginning to end, and he did nothing to shake things up.

I wouldn't call it dirty, but it was helmet to helmet. You can take a guy out, particularly one that is in a vulnerable position like Trent was after the throw, without a helmet to helmet hit - and it can still be a viscious sack. Don't know if there will be a fine, but I would not be surprized. I know that Kurt got a bump on his chin, but I could not catch Mitchell getting his helmet in there on the replays. Maybe he scratched him with a nail.

If we were going to get spanked I guess now before the break is better than any other time. Trent has two weeks to slowly work back to see if he can go through a workout without any lingering concussion effects. This team that may have felt that they were a bit better than they actually are will have a lot of film to look over. The coaching, which has been abysmal at making quick adjustments, has 2 weeks to re-think how to play a strong passing team on defense, and the offense needs to get more than Evans involved in the passing game. We need to get Hardy on the fast track. I do think that Trent and company planned on getting the ball to him, but after Trent got knocked out that plan was tossed out with a lot of other ideas. We cannot get pressure on a QB with only 4 guys. It makes me sick to watch teams that can generate pressure with just 3 or 4 guys. Our Defensive Ends simply got steered upfield and out of the play and the interior d-line did not get much or any push. I do agree with many posters here that Fewell put in a very conservative zone defense that Kurt simply ate up like it was a red-shirt drill. At some point in the game a coach has to understand that the scheme is not working and make adjustments. Granted Kurt generally got the ball out quickly, but there were several times when he simply had forever to make a play. Kurt is known for fumbling the ball when he gets hit, we should have gone after him, and let our corners Yobouty and McKelvin sink or swim in the deep end of the pool. Our offensive line is struggling, but Losman's 3 and 5 step drops were not helping much. He appears to get deeper on those than Edwards and that threw some of the protections off. Fowler simply has to play better, or find his true calling as a matadore. Peters is out of shape - it is like the big dummy sat on his couch eating bon bons while his agent peeled grapes for him telling him he was pro-bowl material and deserved a fat raise and Peters bought into that line of crap. Peters got where he was because he had raw talent, and worked hard - the Bills coaching staff did the rest. I don't think that the talent difference between our two teams was reflected in the score, but our team was out-coached and the Bills still have some question marks on a team that has been built for a run. Pass Rushers: Kelsey has not earned his contract - that one still boggles my mind (must have some blackmail material on Ralphy), Schobel has not played up to his potential. Tight End: we still do not have a solid TE who can contribute to blocking but primarily serve as a reliable outlet receiver for Trent. Center: Fowler may be really smart, but I would rather knock a few points off of his wunderlik and add some bad-ass strength. Can't count how many times he gets shoved around. An upgrade at center would make that whole line better. WR: Hardy may be the answer, but he needs to grow into his NFL shoes quick and that isn't going to happen unless they send more passes his way. He is going to drop some, he is going to need to learn to use his body to out-muscle and out-position corners, but a Hardy threat is the key to opening things up for Evans and Lynch.