notwoz Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 I'm as frustrated as everyone else about the pathetic state of affairs with the Buffalo Bills and would love to see Dick Jauron, Russ Brandon, John Guy and Tom Modrak get the heave-ho. In fact, I'd be willing to drive up from Northern Virginia to escort this bunch of bums out of town. But, realistically, what good would that do, because we'd just get more of the same, only with different names. As the old saying goes, "a fish rots from the head," and as long as the head is unchanged, we can't expect meaningful change. I thought it might be interesting to see what kind of "product" Ralph Wilson given us fans in his 50 years of ownership. Under his stewardship, the Buffalo Bills have compiled a record of 348 wins, 439 losses and eight ties. (The stats are courtesy of buffalorumblings.com) Not much of a legacy, in my humble opinion. And the only conclusion I can draw is that nothing will change as long as Ralph Wilson's feeble hand is at the helm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTIZZLE Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 I'm as frustrated as everyone else about the pathetic state of affairs with the Buffalo Bills and would love to see Dick Jauron, Russ Brandon, John Guy and Tom Modrak get the heave-ho. In fact, I'd be willing to drive up from Northern Virginia to escort this bunch of bums out of town. But, realistically, what good would that do, because we'd just get more of the same, only with different names. As the old saying goes, "a fish rots from the head," and as long as the head is unchanged, we can't expect meaningful change. I thought it might be interesting to see what kind of "product" Ralph Wilson given us fans in his 50 years of ownership. Under his stewardship, the Buffalo Bills have compiled a record of 348 wins, 439 losses and eight ties. (The stats are courtesy of buffalorumblings.com) Not much of a legacy, in my humble opinion. And the only conclusion I can draw is that nothing will change as long as Ralph Wilson's feeble hand is at the helm. His legacy has more to do with bringing the AFL and NFL together. It has nothing to do with his W-L record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteBills4ever Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 I'm as frustrated as everyone else about the pathetic state of affairs with the Buffalo Bills and would love to see Dick Jauron, Russ Brandon, John Guy and Tom Modrak get the heave-ho. In fact, I'd be willing to drive up from Northern Virginia to escort this bunch of bums out of town. But, realistically, what good would that do, because we'd just get more of the same, only with different names. As the old saying goes, "a fish rots from the head," and as long as the head is unchanged, we can't expect meaningful change. I thought it might be interesting to see what kind of "product" Ralph Wilson given us fans in his 50 years of ownership. Under his stewardship, the Buffalo Bills have compiled a record of 348 wins, 439 losses and eight ties. (The stats are courtesy of buffalorumblings.com) Not much of a legacy, in my humble opinion. And the only conclusion I can draw is that nothing will change as long as Ralph Wilson's feeble hand is at the helm. Right on. There's a major cleaning up job that needs to be done, but as long as the stubborn old fart Wilson wants to keep calling the shots, we'll never go anywhere. When you think that he bought that franchise for 25k in 59, and now it's worth over $800 millions, if he had any respect towards the Bills fans that fills out his stadium every year, he'd step down from any decision making position he has on this team and hand out the football operations to a real football President/GM to come in and clean this mess, leave the marketing side to Brandon for all I care. But hey, I'm dreaming with my eyes open... Just think of what happened at the end of pre-season(and that's only a small part of all the bad decision making during all those years), they fire the OC, release Walker, name Bell the starting LT when he barely practiced due to injury, name AVP OC, someone's in charge and looking at this mess and just let's it happen, how poorly can you run a franchise, sad, very sad.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwoz Posted October 12, 2009 Author Share Posted October 12, 2009 His legacy has more to do with bringing the AFL and NFL together. It has nothing to do with his W-L record. As a Bills fan I don't care about bringing the AFL and NFL together (to line his pockets), nor do I care that he loaned Al Davis money to keep the Raiders franchise (and the AFL afloat), all I care about is what has he done for the people who support the Buffalo Bills. And from what I can tell, he's given us a team with a losing record. When you produce a substandard product for 50 years running you are not a success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikecole1 Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 His legacy has more to do with bringing the AFL and NFL together. It has nothing to do with his W-L record. I like Ralph but his record and legacy would be more abysmal if not for Bill Polian. Take the Polian years out of the equation and see what it adds up to. Your highlight would be Chuck Knox/Joe Cribbs and the 1980 campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTIZZLE Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 As a Bills fan I don't care about bringing the AFL and NFL together (to line his pockets), nor do I care that he loaned Al Davis money to keep the Raiders franchise (and the AFL afloat), all I care about is what has he done for the people who support the Buffalo Bills. And from what I can tell, he's given us a team with a losing record. When you produce a substandard product for 50 years running you are not a success. I agree. I could careless about his role in the merger. But, he went into the HOF for the merger deal. Not his success on the football field. That will be his legacy to most Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 after his comments today I am convinced he is the worst owner in the league. He wants to find the slightest reason to keep Jauron through the entire horrible contract. At least Al Davis has a desire to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwoz Posted October 12, 2009 Author Share Posted October 12, 2009 I agree. I could careless about his role in the merger. But, he went into the HOF for the merger deal. Not his success on the football field. That will be his legacy to most That's the saddest aspect: His being in the HOF has nothing to do with his stewardship of the Buffalo Bills, but everything to do with helping to create the marketing monster that is the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pozitive51 Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 He kept the Bills in Buffalo when he could have left town and made MORE money. He is in the HOF fan because of his involvement in the merger, his W-L record and his commitment to a small market team. You cant look back and take the late 80's and 90's off his track record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwoz Posted October 13, 2009 Author Share Posted October 13, 2009 He kept the Bills in Buffalo when he could have left town and made MORE money. He is in the HOF fan because of his involvement in the merger, his W-L record and his commitment to a small market team. You cant look back and take the late 80's and 90's off his track record. What do you mean by "MORE" money. Do you mean that he could have sold in 1990 for $500 million? Sorry, but this sorry-ass franchise is worth $800 million+ now according to Forbes magazine. He is making "MORE" money by doing nothing, and spending nothing on the "product." Am I supposed to kiss his wrinkly old ass for keeping a losing franchise in town and force it down our throats? He knows how desperate we are for a winner, and we'll buy whatever piece of crap he puts together. His only commitments are to his investment and to making sure that his estate has the fewest headaches possible when he dies and the estate laws force the sale of the team His W-L record over the past 50 years is a losing one --- 348 wins, 439 losses. That includes the late 1980s and early 1990s. In fact, the 50-year record is about 44 percent -- or the equivalent of a 7-9 season, which is exactly what he's given us with Dick Jauron. Commitment to a small market team? He picked it, he's had 50 years to sell if he thought it was not worth the effort. He just wants to bleed the franchise dry. He's a businessman and not an overly-bright businessman at that. It's not surprising that he's from Detroit -- land of the "Big Three" automakers, who have been brought to near-extinction and a massive government bailout by their indifference to providing customers with a high-quality product and expecting us to buy mediocrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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