IBTG81 Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 Dan Patrick on his radio show today said Carroll may leave USC and take a job with the Arizona Cardinals as their head coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 Was this more ESPN bull sh-- or is this a credible rumor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBTG81 Posted November 29, 2006 Author Share Posted November 29, 2006 Was this more ESPN bull sh-- or is this a credible rumor? 852077[/snapback] Â I doubt it would happen (why would you leave USC for Arizona?!?!) Patrick said it was a possibility from what he had heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartshan-83 Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 I'm guessing this is a dumbass ESPN "idea" where they try to link things up (Leinart is the Cardinals QB, Carroll was his coach, Cards need a coach = Carroll is leaving! Â If true, and I frankly doubt it, then Carroll is even more of a douche than I thought. As strange as it sounds (at least to me), he has the chance to go down as maybe the greatest (or one of) college football coach. Obviously that is a marathon, not a sprint, but he has had a helluva first mile. Barring a ridiculous UCLA upset, USC will have gone to the championship game each of the last 4 years!!! Plus, the year before, they got a split title. Â Most great coaches win ONE championship if they are fortunate. In about 7 years (sound right Smokin?), Pete Carroll (giant tool that he is) has produced 3 Heisman winners, 3 national championships, and most likely 5 consecutive shots at a title (got to be a record). Â Chance to be a legend, instead fail again as a mediocre NFL coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinandjokin Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 Dan Patrick on his radio show today said Carroll may leave USC and take a job with the Arizona Cardinals as their head coach. 852076[/snapback] Â This can't be!!! He said he's perfectly happy at USC and is not even considering going elsewhere!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBTG81 Posted November 29, 2006 Author Share Posted November 29, 2006 This can't be!!! He said he's perfectly happy at USC and is not even considering going elsewhere!!! 852093[/snapback]  Well, he would be stupid to leave there. Listen , did he ever say he was happy there and wouldn't leave? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartshan-83 Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 Just a little fuel for the fire...  I had forgotten about this from last year...  30 million reasons to leave...story is three weeks old  Same story from Trojanwire.com  I wouldn't put much stock in it if not for the story from last year (link #1). I remember that now and if it was true, AZ could be the perfect storm to lure him away ($$$, Complete Control, Reunion with Leinart, Warm Climate).  But who knows? I'd say it has about as good a shot as Schiano leaving Rutgers. Take that as you will... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinandjokin Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 I'm guessing this is a dumbass ESPN "idea" where they try to link things up (Leinart is the Cardinals QB, Carroll was his coach, Cards need a coach = Carroll is leaving!  If true, and I frankly doubt it, then Carroll is even more of a douche than I thought. As strange as it sounds (at least to me), he has the chance to go down as maybe the greatest (or one of) college football coach. Obviously that is a marathon, not a sprint, but he has had a helluva first mile. Barring a ridiculous UCLA upset, USC will have gone to the championship game each of the last 4 years!!! Plus, the year before, they got a split title.  Most great coaches win ONE championship if they are fortunate. In about 7 years (sound right Smokin?), Pete Carroll (giant tool that he is) has produced 3 Heisman winners, 3 national championships, and most likely 5 consecutive shots at a title (got to be a record). 852087[/snapback]  Carroll's first squad was the Fall of '01 team. They went 6-6 and lost to Utah 10-6 in the Las Vegas Bowl on Christmas Day 2001  The next year's team, Palmer (finally) came into his own and they won eight straight to finish the season 11-2 and defeated Iowa in the Orange Bowl. Palmer Heisman  '03- Rose Bowl win over Michigan and AP National Champs. Were #1 in both the Coaches and AP polls and end of regular season, but left out of the BCS final. The Coaches Poll is obligated to rank the BCS winner #1. Finished 12-1.  '04- 13-0 national champs, Leinart Heisman  '05- 12-1 lost to Texas (or more specifically, Vince) in the finals. Finished AP #2. Bush Heisman.  '06- 11-1 at the moment and a chance at another big one.     NOW, IN STARK CONTRAST, THE USC TROJANS DURING THE S'N'J ERA:  I was a freshman in Fall of '97, and was a SuperSenior graduating in May 2002.  '97 (under John Robinson): 6-5, no bowl game. Robinson fired. Team did show some promise. Hired Paul Hackett in offseason. There goes the promise.  '98 (under Paul Hackett): 8-5, true freshman QB Carson Palmer split time until he became the starter for USC in their 9th game. Lost 28-19 to TCU in the Sun Bowl in El Paso, TX. Some guy named Basil Mitchell rushed for 185 on 19 carries for TCU. Backup sophomore RB LaDanian Tomlinson rushed for 30.  '99: 6-6, no bowl game. Started 3-0, but Palmer broke his collarbone in the third game and missed the rest of the year. Palmer redshirted.  '00: 5-7, no bowl game. Palmer painfully inconsistent in his redshirt sophomore season. Paul Hackett is fired, Pete Carroll hired.  '01: (S'n'J's last fall season at the university): 6-6 and lost the Las Vegas Bowl to Utah.  So, in my five years there, USC went 31-29. Since the fall of '01, they are 59-5 with three Heisman's, two national titles, and are guaranteed their 5th BCS Bowl appearance. PAINFUL!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 He'd be a fool to leave USC for the Arizona Cardinals  At USC he runs the program the way he wants to. In Arizona he would have to put up with assclown owner Bill Bidwell  Plus it will be alot harder to recruit free agents to the netherworld of the NFL than it is to recruit high schoolers to go to college in sunny Callyforneeya and play for a national powerhouse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartshan-83 Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 SmokinNJokin's sad tale.... 852123[/snapback] Yeah that's rough. Of course going to a school with the most storied football team of all-time and sitting though what may go down as the worst 4-year stretch in the history of the school ...I'm tempted to say: Stop yer bitchin! Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinandjokin Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 Yeah that's rough. Of course going to a school with the most storied football team of all-time and sitting though what may go down as the worst 4-year stretch in the history of the school ...I'm tempted to say: Stop yer bitchin!  852149[/snapback]  Oh man, no bitchin. The games were still fun, and winning was sweet because they only won about half the time. A dude I went to college with there has a younger brother at USC now, and the young buck can't even fathom 35,000 in the LA Coliseum when we tell him that's what it was like. He's only ever seen 92,000 in there!  Like Homer Jay's answer when asked if he'd been licking toads:  I did not not enjoy Notre Dame's recent rough stretch... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinandjokin Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 And, I'm one of the few who got to watch Mark Prior pitch before he hurt his vagina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 I've always been glad I got to Texas at the time that I did. Â Seeing as how I have to go an extra semester next year, maybe we'll win two before I'm out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBTG81 Posted November 30, 2006 Author Share Posted November 30, 2006 Seeing as how I have to go an extra semester next year, maybe we'll win two before I'm out. 852192[/snapback] Â There's a better chance of the Bills winning the SB before that happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 There's a better chance of the Bills winning the SB before that happens. 852194[/snapback] Â And no chance for Rutgers to have won one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBTG81 Posted November 30, 2006 Author Share Posted November 30, 2006 And no chance for Rutgers to have won one. 852199[/snapback] Â Rutgers will win one before Texas will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 Rutgers will win one before Texas will. 852211[/snapback] Â As past history has shown us, right Ed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBTG81 Posted November 30, 2006 Author Share Posted November 30, 2006 As past history has shown us, right Ed? 852218[/snapback] Â Â I guess the Jets are going to win the Superbowl, because afterall, they did win SB3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 Â I guess the Jets are going to win the Superbowl, because afterall, they did win SB3. 852220[/snapback] Â I guess Rutgers is going to win the National Championship, because, after all, they have only lost one game this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBTG81 Posted November 30, 2006 Author Share Posted November 30, 2006 I guess Rutgers is going to win the National Championship, because, after all, they have only lost one game this season. 852224[/snapback]  Are you drinking?  Rutgers will win before Texas, plain and simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 Are you drinking?  Rutgers will win before Texas, plain and simple. 852229[/snapback]  Based off of what, exactly? I'll love to hear this reasoning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBTG81 Posted November 30, 2006 Author Share Posted November 30, 2006 Based off of what, exactly? I'll love to hear this reasoning. 852234[/snapback]  Brilliant coach, great young talent, and a great recruiting class coming in. We have just begun to tap the talent in this area!  Vive le Schiano! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinandjokin Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 Brilliant coach, great young talent, and a great recruiting class coming in. We have just begun to tap the talent in this area! 852240[/snapback] Â Pump Jersey's tires all you want...In football, Texas HS talent > Jersey HS talent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBTG81 Posted November 30, 2006 Author Share Posted November 30, 2006 Pump Jersey's tires all you want...In football, Texas HS talent > Jersey HS talent 852246[/snapback] Â Schiano has also recruited S. Flordia extremely well, not to mention that whole NE would want to come to a powerhouse like RU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinandjokin Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 Schiano has also recruited S. Flordia extremely well, not to mention that whole NE would want to come to a powerhouse like RU. 852305[/snapback] Â Â New fathers across the country are buying baby-sized tshirts for their young sons that say "Rutgers Football" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 Brilliant coach, great young talent, and a great recruiting class coming in. We have just begun to tap the talent in this area! 852240[/snapback] Â Â We have the winningest coach of the last 10 years, young talent, and a better recruiting class coming in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBTG81 Posted November 30, 2006 Author Share Posted November 30, 2006 Â Â Â We have the winningest coach of the last 10 years, young talent, and a better recruiting class coming in. 852318[/snapback] Â Who has the better record, and is ranked higher? Oh yeah, RUTGERS! Â Draft one of our lineman and you are gonna mourn we are the mighty longhooooooooooooooooooooooooorns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 Who has the better record, and is ranked higher? Oh yeah, RUTGERS!  Its amazing that you have no grasp of logic whatsoever.  Here is the progression to the logic that you completely contradicted yourself with:  1.) You say Rutgers will win a championship before Texas. 2.) I point to being National Champions last year and history as being the reason. 3.) You discount this, and say its because of Coaching and Recruiting. 4.) I point out that our recruiting class is better, and that our coach has the best record of any coach of the past 10 years. 5.) You say Rutgers will win a championship before Texas because you currently have a better record and is ranked higher.  This last assertion is completely contradictory to you discounting history, as next year apparently is not effected by the previous years.  So, not only did you manage to discount what I said, but you used the very same logic that you discounted in order to attempt to make a point.  Congrats Ed, you've reached a new level of stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinandjokin Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 Why don't you boys leave the recruiting talk out of this, as USC has had the top-rated class the past four years...And I fully expect a re-Pete this year!!! Â Carroll is actually the rare NCAA coach who directs ALL of the recruiting. Not a lot of college-bred guys do that, much less those who came from the pros. Mix that with the promise to play his best 11, a beautiful school (but check yourself in the surrounding neighborhood) 92,000 packed into the Coliseum, and the L.A. location/lifestyle, and you'd have to be a tard like Paul Hackett to not do well recruiting there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 Why don't you boys leave the recruiting talk out of this, as USC has had the top-rated class the past four years...And I fully expect a re-Pete this year!!! Carroll is actually the rare NCAA coach who directs ALL of the recruiting. Not a lot of college-bred guys do that, much less those who came from the pros. Mix that with the promise to play his best 11, a beautiful school (but check yourself in the surrounding neighborhood) 92,000 packed into the Coliseum, and the L.A. location/lifestyle, and you'd have to be a tard like Paul Hackett to not do well recruiting there. 852340[/snapback]  Sounds like Texas lols Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartshan-83 Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 I wish they had added a "shakes head and laughs" smiley to the list. Â One good season, a powerhouse does not make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Schiavo < Carroll < Brown < Paterno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Why don't you boys leave the recruiting talk out of this, as USC has had the top-rated class the past four years...And I fully expect a re-Pete this year!!! Carroll is actually the rare NCAA coach who directs ALL of the recruiting. Not a lot of college-bred guys do that, much less those who came from the pros. Mix that with the promise to play his best 11, a beautiful school (but check yourself in the surrounding neighborhood) 92,000 packed into the Coliseum, and the L.A. location/lifestyle, and you'd have to be a tard like Paul Hackett to not do well recruiting there. 852340[/snapback]  Ohio State is going to take it to USC this year. USC wont win their 2.5th championship in the last 4 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBTG81 Posted December 1, 2006 Author Share Posted December 1, 2006 Schiavo < Carroll < Brown < Paterno 853132[/snapback]  Schiavo? As in Terry?  I know Rutgers has a guy named Schiano... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Schiavo? As in Terry? I know Rutgers has a guy named Schiano... 853228[/snapback]  Guess that proves which one is better known outside New Jersey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinandjokin Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Ohio State is going to take it to USC this year. USC wont win their 2.5th championship in the last 4 years. 853221[/snapback] Â I can't say I disagree, but hopefully the Buckeye's 50-day layoff throws everything out of whack. I honestly can't remember the last time USC was an underdog, but I expect they'll be getting 5 or 6 if they make it to Glendale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBTG81 Posted December 1, 2006 Author Share Posted December 1, 2006 Guess that proves which one is better known outside New Jersey 853235[/snapback]  Ignorance is nice... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Ignorance is nice... 853285[/snapback] I'm just playing with ya. Wanted to see if you'd take the bait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 I can't say I disagree, but hopefully the Buckeye's 50-day layoff throws everything out of whack. I honestly can't remember the last time USC was an underdog, but I expect they'll be getting 5 or 6 if they make it to Glendale. 853236[/snapback]  I think both teams will show some rust due to the layoff and it might affect Ohio St more. I think it will be a close game for 2.5-3 quarters with Ohio St pulling away late. I see something like a 35-20 final score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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