truth on hold Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 in the end jauron abandoned a game plan that had gotten bills into a potential late 4th quarter lead by calling pass on 3rd and 5 from the 20. the one thing they couldnt do in that situation is take a sack and made the go ahead field goal longer. the tackles had been getting lit up on passing plays all day and JP couldn't sense a pass rush with the most sophisticated GPS navigation system. just like clockwork tackle gets beat off the ball, jp has no clue and gets sacked and lindell misses 41 yard field goal. i honestly think if the field goal would have been 35 that lindell makes it. the colts were only able to get 17 points through more than 3 & 1/2 quarters and the best option was to make sure you put the onus on them to score on you. bills didn't need a TD ... they needed FG and going for a TD by calling pass wasn't worth the risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 in the end jauron abandoned a game plan that had gotten bills into a potential late 4th quarter lead by calling pass on 3rd and 5 from the 20. the one thing they couldnt do in that situation is take a sack and made the go ahead field goal longer. the tackles had been getting lit up on passing plays all day and JP couldn't sense a pass rush with the most sophisticated GPS navigation system. just like clockwork tackle gets beat off the ball, jp has no clue and gets sacked and lindell misses 41 yard field goal. i honestly think if the field goal would have been 35 that lindell makes it. the colts were only able to get 17 points through more than 3 & 1/2 quarters and the best option was to make sure you put the onus on them to score on you. bills didn't need a TD ... they needed FG and going for a TD by calling pass wasn't worth the risk. 833990[/snapback] DING! We have a winner... Cheap coach, poor results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofiba Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 So which is it guys, the coaching was too conservative, or not conservative enough? Which one are we going to go with this week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 So which is it guys, the coaching was too conservative, or not conservative enough? Which one are we going to go with this week? 833999[/snapback] No, the coaching was inconsistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 lol, you've got to be kidding me...as if we would've won the game 19-17? We've got to go for the TD with that much time on the clock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daquixers_is_back Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 DING! We have a winner... Cheap coach, poor results. 833993[/snapback] Right because the coach's pay is directly proportionate to how he will do with the team. Go tell that to John Fox (1 SB, and 2 playoff appearances), Jack Del Rio (12-4 last year and and barely missed playoffs the year before that), Levy when he first joined the Bills and the list goes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 Right because the coach's pay is directly proportionate to how he will do with the team. Go tell that to John Fox (1 SB, and 2 playoff appearances), Jack Del Rio (12-4 last year and and barely missed playoffs the year before that), Levy when he first joined the Bills and the list goes on. 834020[/snapback] Dick Jauron. Are you kidding me? Ask a Bear fan what they think of old Dick, and they'll tell you the same sh-- we're seeing now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cåblelady Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 Dick Jauron. Are you kidding me? Ask a Bear fan what they think of old Dick, and they'll tell you the same sh-- we're seeing now. 834026[/snapback] Dick Jauron before he dicks you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted November 12, 2006 Author Share Posted November 12, 2006 lol, you've got to be kidding me...as if we would've won the game 19-17? We've got to go for the TD with that much time on the clock. 834009[/snapback] the colts were only able to get 17 points through more than 3 & 1/2 quarters. again, at a minimum, put the onus on them to score a FG on their last possession. coming away without points in that situation is disgraceful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daquixers_is_back Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 Dick Jauron. Are you kidding me? Ask a Bear fan what they think of old Dick, and they'll tell you the same sh-- we're seeing now. 834026[/snapback] The arguement was about money. Understand the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbfan54 Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 There is no guarantee that Lindell would have made the field goal if it was closer. You have to try and get a touchdown especially when there is time for Peyton Manning and Company to come back and score with the most clutch field goal kicker in NFL history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 the colts were only able to get 17 points through more than 3 & 1/2 quarters. again, at a minimum, put the onus on them to score a FG on their last possession. coming away without points in that situation is disgraceful. 834033[/snapback] Please research Linell's career FG% differential between 35 and 41 yards in a dome. When you're done with that, figure the likelyhood of a sack. When you're done with that, figure the likelyhood the Bills D doesn't give up any more points (because our D never plays solid for 3.5 Qtrs and gives up a score at the end...see last game vs. Indy in 2003). When you're finished with all that, consider that two 3rd down completions to Evans on the 1st possession set the FG - one 3rd&5 and 1 3rd&4 - and a white flag draw play erased any good possibility of 7 pts when the Colts hadn't shown any ability to stop Evans on 3rd down. I'm sorry, your thread is retarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted November 12, 2006 Author Share Posted November 12, 2006 There is no guarantee that Lindell would have made the field goal if it was closer. You have to try and get a touchdown especially when there is time for Peyton Manning and Company to come back and score with the most clutch field goal kicker in NFL history. 834069[/snapback] all i know is a 35 yard FG gets made more than a 41. the bills needed to guard at all costs against tacking more yards on the FG. bills defense was playing well. put the onus on colts to beat them because for the most part that hadn't done much against them all game. bills ability to score TDs on offense is pitiful. play to your strengths and make sure you get the damn FG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted November 12, 2006 Author Share Posted November 12, 2006 Please research Linell's career FG% differential between 35 and 41 yards in a dome. When you're done with that, figure the likelyhood of a sack. When you're done with that, figure the likelyhood the Bills D doesn't give up any more points (because our D never plays solid for 3.5 Qtrs and gives up a score at the end...see last game vs. Indy in 2003). When you're finished with all that, consider that two 3rd down completions to Evans on the 1st possession set the FG - one 3rd&5 and 1 3rd&4 - and a white flag draw play erased any good possibility of 7 pts when the Colts hadn't shown any ability to stop Evans on 3rd down. I'm sorry, your thread is retarded. 834078[/snapback] how many times did bills line get beat on the outside for a sack? you calculate that why don't you. i am sure colts eyes got real wide when they saw bills were stupid enough to throw on 3rd and 5 in that situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 how many times did bills line get beat on the outside for a sack? you calculate that why don't you. i am sure colts eyes got real wide when they saw bills were stupid enough to throw on 3rd and 5 in that situation. 834098[/snapback] When Robert Royal is on Freeney by himself, the probability is probably pretty high. Poor play design doesn't mean your absurd results-oriented hindsight theory is even remotely correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted November 12, 2006 Author Share Posted November 12, 2006 No, the coaching was inconsistent. 834002[/snapback] yeap, and at the worst time possible. i am sure colts eyes lit up when they realized bills were stupid enough to call pass in that 3rd and 5 situation. chip shot 35 yarder turned into not so easy 41 yarder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted November 12, 2006 Author Share Posted November 12, 2006 There is no guarantee that Lindell would have made the field goal if it was closer. 834069[/snapback] youre right and thatss one part of the analysis that is based on educated guessing. but i do know 35 yarders get made more often than 41 yards. also if you look at the kick he missed it would have been good from 35 yards. it drifted right just a few yards before the right upright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 Dick Jauron. Are you kidding me? Ask a Bear fan what they think of old Dick, and they'll tell you the same sh-- we're seeing now. 834026[/snapback] Not really. The Bears fans would have ben mad because he would have called a predictable running play, not a pass. Let's get serious .. Jauron does not call the plays. Talk to Mr. Fairchild about that call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted November 12, 2006 Author Share Posted November 12, 2006 When Robert Royal is on Freeney by himself, the probability is probably pretty high. Poor play design doesn't mean your absurd results-oriented hindsight theory is even remotely correct. 834172[/snapback] i have no idea what you're trying to say with that. also note that the bills fan who went to the game and posted only pointed to that play as hurting. that tells me the fans there realized and endorsed the importance of that 7 yard sack and the implications for a miss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Drane Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 I agree 100% with the post. In the first half I was yelling at the TV that we were playing Pu$$y Ball. I thought there was no way we could get enough points to win playing that way....BUT.....we had 2 monster plays on Defense and ST, and all of a sudden the plan actually worked. It probably had a 10-1 shot of working but it did. Who knows, maybe Fairchild had the under in Vegas. Then....when all you had to do was center the F'n ball on 3 runs which would fit within your gameplan....7 step pass??? It is that 2nd guessing of one's self that makes me know we don't have the right OC. He had it and gave it away. And to anyone who said we needed a TD because of Manning....we would still need a 2 pointer to go up by seven. If we miss, we lose anyway. If Indy scores, we get another drive most likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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