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  RuntheDamnBall said:
One

Game.

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  GuessWhozBack21 said:
actually 2nd game. He played really well putting the cards in position to win against the chiefs if not for a defensive collapse costing them the lead, then leading the cards down the field for a chance to send it to ot and nasty neil shanking a fg. 

 

M. Leinart  22/35 253 2 1

 

and tonight

 

M. Leinart 13/18 125 2 0

 

I'm not one of those "why didnt we draft so and so guys".  I just think it speaks highly of how mature and how quickly Leinart has adapted to the nfl.

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I was about to post that also. This is his 2nd 1/3 game ... this is his 2nd start and also relieved Warner in week 3 I believe

 

  ScottLaw said:
Yea, McGee really set him up on Detroits 23 at the end of the first half. Losman really took advantage with that -15 yard sack. <_<

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Dont you mean Gandy?

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  daquixers_is_back said:
ahahaha ...

 

Grossman doesnt look so hot now in the 3rd quarter also.

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I don't know...he looked pretty good on that touchdown...

 

...except that wasn't Grossman. And it wasn't a touchdown. Stupid call...3rd quarter, down by 20, 4th and goal...go for it, you friggin' Mularkey!!!

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  ScottLaw said:
Yea, McGee really set him up on Detroits 23 at the end of the first half. Losman really took advantage with that -15 yard sack. <_<

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Yawn...I mean consistently. The Cards have had 4 drives start in Chicago territory. From that they got 1 TD, 2 FG ("drives" of 10 and 22 yards), 1 missed FG (drive of -5 yards). The killer Arizona offense with the red hot QB has yet to total the yardage of their first drive...

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A few points:

 

This is one game. As good as Leinart looks, that's how bad Grossman's looking. Just a day ago, Rex was one of the best QBs in the league. So which is it? One game does not determine a season, let alone a career.

 

The game plan. As someone else posted, this is a great game plan that's being executed well. Why don't we try to protect our young QB behind a bad line with quick drops and roll outs? It works. Here's the evidence.

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  Bungee Jumper said:
I don't know...he looked pretty good on that touchdown...

 

...except that wasn't Grossman.  And it wasn't a touchdown.  Stupid call...3rd quarter, down by 20, 4th and goal...go for it, you friggin' Mularkey!!!

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What do you mean it wasnt Grossman?

 

  ScottLaw said:
No, I meant Losman.

 

Remember he saw the end coming at him, and ran back at least 7 yards, then took a sack.

 

But yea, It was Gandys fault.

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Well the end wouldnt be coming at him if Gandy did not let him through ... holy cow people on this board are something else. <_<

 

He had 2 choices:

 

1. Fall down at the sight of the DE

 

OR

 

2. Do the instinctive thing and try to make a play out of nothing like he did when he escaped 2 DE's and a DT and threw for a 45 yard TD

 

you sir, have a short memory

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  Dan said:
A few points:

 

This is one game.  As good as Leinart looks, that's how bad Grossman's looking.  Just a day ago, Rex was one of the best QBs in the league.  So which is it?  One game does not determine a season, let alone a career.

 

The game plan.  As someone else posted, this is a great game plan that's being executed well.  Why don't we try to protect our young QB behind a bad line with quick drops and roll outs?  It works.  Here's the evidence.

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This is actually his 2nd 1/2 good game (leinart).

 

Rex was never one of the best QB's in the league. He SHOULD have been INT'd 3-4 times last week by Buffalo. We just couldnt catch the ball. Arizona is catching the ball.

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  daquixers_is_back said:
This is actually his 2nd 1/2 good game (leinart).

 

Rex was never one of the best QB's in the league. He SHOULD have been INT'd 3-4 times last week by Buffalo. We just couldnt catch the ball. Arizona is catching the ball.

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So what you're saying is Whitner sucks and we should have drafted Leinart, and had Coy Wire starting instead?

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  Dan Gross said:
Losman doesn't look so bad when given the short field either.  The Cards have had 1 drive of greater than 25 yards.

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You must be referring to JP Losman's 2 play -12 yard drive for a field goal after McGee's kick return on Sunday, right?

 

Or did you mean Losman's 3 play -9 yard drive for a punt after Minnesota punted the ball only 9 yards to their own 39 yard line?

 

Nah, that wasn't it - did you mean Losman's 3 play -14 yard drive from Miami's 45 yard line? Or his 3 play -8 yard drive from Miami's 17 yard line for a field goal?

 

Come to think of it - what *are* you thinking about?

 

JDG

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  VABills said:
So what you're saying is Whitner sucks and we should have drafted Leinart, and had Coy Wire starting instead?

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When did I say I wanted to draft Leinart? Heck no ... I just pointed out the mistake in the other posters post.

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  daquixers_is_back said:
This is actually his 2nd 1/2 good game (leinart).

 

Rex was never one of the best QB's in the league. He SHOULD have been INT'd 3-4 times last week by Buffalo. We just couldnt catch the ball. Arizona is catching the ball.

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I believe the Cards lost that game. and ML - 22/35 253yds 2TD 1INT. throw in a few sacks. By JP standards, that an average game in a loss. Certainly not great.

 

I'm not saying Rex is great. I'm just saying everyone else was saying he was great.

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  Dan said:
I believe the Cards lost that game. and ML - 22/35 253yds 2TD 1INT. throw in a few sacks.  By JP standards, that an average game in a loss.  Certainly not great.

 

I'm not saying Rex is great.  I'm just saying everyone else was saying he was great.

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Its odd how you are so persistant to put down Leinart.

 

22/35 for 253 yards 2TD and 1 INT sounds like Tom Brady stats to me ... also remember it was his FIRST GAME EVER STARTING

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  daquixers_is_back said:
Its odd how you are so persistant to put down Leinart.

 

22/35 for 253 yards 2TD and 1 INT sounds like Tom Brady stats to me ... also remember it was his FIRST GAME EVER STARTING

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But, but, but.....Paris Hilton!!!

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  JDG said:
You must be referring to JP Losman's 2 play -12 yard drive for a field goal after McGee's kick return on Sunday, right?

 

Or did you mean Losman's 3 play -9 yard drive for a punt after Minnesota punted the ball only 9 yards to their own 39 yard line?

 

Nah, that wasn't it - did you mean Losman's 3 play -14 yard drive from Miami's 45 yard line?  Or his 3 play -8 yard drive from Miami's 17 yard line for a field goal?

 

Come to think of it - what *are* you thinking about? 

 

JDG

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<_<

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  daquixers_is_back said:
Its odd how you are so persistant to put down Leinart.

 

22/35 for 253 yards 2TD and 1 INT sounds like Tom Brady stats to me ... also remember it was his FIRST GAME EVER STARTING

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I'm not putting him down at all. I'm just suggesting that he's not the future hall of famer that some people are trying to make him out to be. He's has 2 good games and suddenly half the board wants us to dump JP in his stead. I'm sure I could pull up stats to reflect JP's had good games as well.

 

Why can't we just be a little patient before we lament the loss of Leinart and having to be stuck with JP? Leinart has looked good, sure. But, lets be rationalistic about it.

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  Dan said:
Why can't we just be a little patient before we lament the loss of Leinart and having to be stuck with JP?    Leinart has looked good, sure.  But, lets be rationalistic about it.

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No room for rationale. JP has single-handedly lost two games in a row for the Bills. This board belongs to the anti-JP Crusaders, and probably will until he has 12 500 yard, 6 TD, 0 INT, 0 sack games in a row. Don't even bother trying...I know I give up.

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  Dan said:
I'm not putting him down at all.  I'm just suggesting that he's not the future hall of famer that some people are trying to make him out to be.  He's has 2 good games and suddenly half the board wants us to dump JP in his stead.  I'm sure I could pull up stats to reflect JP's had good games as well. 

 

Why can't we just be a little patient before we lament the loss of Leinart and having to be stuck with JP?    Leinart has looked good, sure.  But, lets be rationalistic about it.

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I dont want to dumb Losman. Im just commenting on how well Leinart is doing.

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  daquixers_is_back said:
I dont want to dumb Losman. Im just commenting on how well Leinart is doing.

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Not only has he not been sacked, he's only been hit TWICE all game. That's some inspired play by his Oline.

 

EDIT: Ooooooops, lol.....

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  daquixers_is_back said:
I dont want to dumb Losman. Im just commenting on how well Leinart is doing.

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Then why are we arguing. Because I agree, Lienart's playing a good game; but in no way should we be second guessing JP.

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