The Dean Posted March 12, 2006 Author Share Posted March 12, 2006 alot of these "chinese americans" you speak of may not have even come from china but rather taiwan instead...it seems to be easier for people to refer to them as chinese americans instead for some reason hopefully when sh-- goes down between the US and China, the taiwanese americans don't get dragged down as well 625989[/snapback] Well, Taiwanese ARE Chinese...but, whatever. As I am a "Cheap-Shot Artist" and have been called "Mr. Cruel" by my friends, the following is not surprising, I guess: I worked with a great guy who is was from Taiwan. I would regularly ask him, "Are you REAL Chinese, or are you from Formosa?" I KILL me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of BiB Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 alot of these "chinese americans" you speak of may not have even come from china but rather taiwan instead...it seems to be easier for people to refer to them as chinese americans instead for some reason hopefully when sh-- goes down between the US and China, the taiwanese americans don't get dragged down as well 625989[/snapback] But people who live for TV know everything about everyone. Let's have another Idol thread. Was that chiffon or polyester? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweet baboo Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 Well, Taiwanese ARE Chinese...but, whatever. 626003[/snapback] ummm...no things change over time...that would be like saying australians are all british criminals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 But people who live for TV know everything about everyone. Let's have another Idol thread. Was that chiffon or polyester? 626043[/snapback] Why do you keep bringing that up? What is the deal with tv and AI? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted March 12, 2006 Author Share Posted March 12, 2006 ummm...no things change over time...that would be like saying australians are all british criminals 626076[/snapback] I think it would be more like saying "Sicilians are Italians". All Taiwanese I know consider themselves Chinese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweet baboo Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 I think it would be more like saying "Sicilians are Italians". All Taiwanese I know consider themselves Chinese. 626129[/snapback] I was born in Taiwan and was naturalized in the US. No one in my family (mother's side and father's side) has ever or will ever consider themselves Chinese. There is a small population of people in Taiwan that consider themselves to be "Chinese". Those are the people that ran from China when Mao took over and settled in Taiwan. They have not and will not consider themselves to be Taiwanese. It's somewhat of a source of tension in the country as everytime China threatens the island, they're the first lined up to surrender. The country and way of life is not theirs to lose as they feel no ties to the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted March 13, 2006 Author Share Posted March 13, 2006 I was born in Taiwan and was naturalized in the US. No one in my family (mother's side and father's side) has ever or will ever consider themselves Chinese. There is a small population of people in Taiwan that consider themselves to be "Chinese". Those are the people that ran from China when Mao took over and settled in Taiwan. They have not and will not consider themselves to be Taiwanese. It's somewhat of a source of tension in the country as everytime China threatens the island, they're the first lined up to surrender. The country and way of life is not theirs to lose as they feel no ties to the country. 626382[/snapback] Well you have taught me something. I'll have to check some of this stuff out. I'll have to ask my Taiwanese friends why they consider themselves Chinese. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ans4e64 Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 I was born in Taiwan and was naturalized in the US. No one in my family (mother's side and father's side) has ever or will ever consider themselves Chinese. There is a small population of people in Taiwan that consider themselves to be "Chinese". Those are the people that ran from China when Mao took over and settled in Taiwan. They have not and will not consider themselves to be Taiwanese. It's somewhat of a source of tension in the country as everytime China threatens the island, they're the first lined up to surrender. The country and way of life is not theirs to lose as they feel no ties to the country. 626382[/snapback] ok, im not sure about this one, but taiwan doesnt offically have its independance or does it? if not, its wonderful that people dont consider themselves chinese, but if they are still a part of china then they are. i could live here and not consider myself american but it doesnt mean that im not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of BiB Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Why do you keep bringing that up? What is the deal with tv and AI? 626123[/snapback] I've spoke with literally dozens of people over the last year or so that can name every detail of every contestant, episode of Lost or whatever that couldn't find China on a map, let alone the UAE. In their minds, all cultures are American - and if they don't behave in what's considered an acceptable American fashion, they are wrong and need to be corrected. And where do their ideas come from? In some cases, MTV news. Best case, 45 second soundbites on Headline. Our media panders to this general apathy and lack of understanding about many things and it translates to the voting booths. So, I don't see it as a minor issue. Sort of like Hot Pockets. It's called the "American Idol" syndrome. A TV show about some singers winning a prize takes on much more importance than events that shape the country let alone the world. Nothing against entertainment, but not at the total exclusion of anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of BiB Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 ok, im not sure about this one, but taiwan doesnt offically have its independance or does it? if not, its wonderful that people dont consider themselves chinese, but if they are still a part of china then they are. i could live here and not consider myself american but it doesnt mean that im not. 626483[/snapback] No, Taiwan is not independant. The day they actually declare independance is probably the day you see China launch an invasion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiew Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 I thought this was a thread about eating penises? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of BiB Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 I thought this was a thread about eating penises? 626631[/snapback] Any insight there you might care to add? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennesseeboy Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 you devil! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiew Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Any insight there you might care to add? I was curious if they employed male or female workers to actually perform the removal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dib Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 THe nice thing is, if you rub your meal you get a bigger portion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sweet baboo Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 ok, im not sure about this one, but taiwan doesnt offically have its independance or does it? if not, its wonderful that people dont consider themselves chinese, but if they are still a part of china then they are. i could live here and not consider myself american but it doesnt mean that im not. 626483[/snapback] China has never been able to "control" Taiwan...throughout history, they've lost their "claim" to Taiwan's land dozens of times because they either got their asses kicked or couldn't defend it. Most recently (WWII), the Japanese had control of Taiwan...and despite the Chinese hating the Japanese, the Taiwanese love them. Anyhow, Taiwan is not a part of China. China does not own or control Taiwan. The Taiwanese have their own government, make their own laws, don't pay any taxes or tariffs and have nothing to do with the internal workings of China's twisted government. China is just around to make Taiwan's life miserable. They keep Taiwan out of the WTO and UN with what I assume to be their economic power. They've also got this "Join us or die" attitude. "Yeah, you're technically independent but if you announce it to the world, we'll kill you." They also get royally pissed at anyone that accidentally mentions Taiwan in an slightly too independent way. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4789072.stm Japan was the latest culprit. If you follow any of the news, there is some opposition to independence in Taiwan...that independence comes from the Chinese folk that ran over to Taiwan after the communists took over. My wife's parents are those people. They consider themselves Chinese and consider my family Taiwanese. We're all Americans now, but during family gatherings, it'd probably be best not to mention that crap. From the way things look though, Taiwan has no shot at internationally recognized independence. They do pretty much what a model democratic nation should do but China keeps building its economic and military might and one day in the near future, it's going to get to the point where it wouldn't be practical or feasible for the US to try and defend the little democratic island. Do I care? Not too much...the situation is hopeless and I'm an American now. I personally wouldn't mind seeing Taiwan come out, declare their independence and then go down in a blaze of glory. It most likely wouldn't happen because it would be too disruptive to the world, but at least it would show everyone how unhinged the Chinese government is. No matter what anyone says about the Chinese/Taiwanese situation, my roots are Taiwanese...never Chinese. btw, what are your thoughts on Tibetans? are they Tibetans? or Chinese? the turds in the Chinese government are giving them hell as well and deny the Tibetan government's existence...they don't even really want the land...it's all a matter of saving face for them as once upon a time, Tibet was a part of Chinese territory. Until recently, I read somewhere that Mongolia was still counted as being "Chinese" in their country's geography books. oh, and to try and somewhat get back to the thread, the Taiwanese don't eat dogs, cats or animal penii...as far as I know...since I grew up here (moved here at the age of 2), I've got the American point of view on foods like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 oh, and to try and somewhat get back to the thread, the Taiwanese don't eat dogs, cats or animal penii...as far as I know...since I grew up here (moved here at the age of 2), I've got the American point of view on foods like that 627447[/snapback] One of my best friends is from the Philippines.....I mentioned it once before on here and it always makes me sick to my stomach to bring it up, but one of their favorite dishes there is called "balut". It's basically some sort of duck egg that is nearly about to hatch....they cook it, rip off the top, and eat it......the pics and description are so amazingly unpalatable to me it's not even funny. We have an agreement that she can't even bring it up when we talk on the phone or the computer, cause I'll hang up on her asss, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted March 13, 2006 Author Share Posted March 13, 2006 One of my best friends is from the Philippines.....I mentioned it once before on here and it always makes me sick to my stomach to bring it up, but one of their favorite dishes there is called "balut". It's basically some sort of duck egg that is nearly about to hatch....they cook it, rip off the top, and eat it......the pics and description are so amazingly unpalatable to me it's not even funny. We have an agreement that she can't even bring it up when we talk on the phone or the computer, cause I'll hang up on her asss, lol. 627714[/snapback] That doesn't sound all that bad. Well, when compared to chompin down on some dick and testies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 That doesn't sound all that bad. Well, when compared to chompin down on some dick and testies. 627747[/snapback] ha ha, I can't argue with that....although you may feel differently if you see the pics...I know i sure did!! I think I'll stick with my pizza, pasta, and chicken though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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