Gogolak Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 We've got a GM who is a winner and highly respected in the league. Yes, he's not been a GM before, but it is logical to assume that he is getting input from Pollian, AJ Smith, and others. Marv wants to win and he knows how to win. He is not going to hire a a coach that will have a high proability of failure. Won't happen. Before we condem the Jauron hire, can we at least wait and see what Marv and Dick have to say? Talk about jumping the gun, a sportswriter speculates that the OC "may be" Jauron's OC in Detroit and people are already criticizing that "hire". Wait and see what is said. At least we will have a coach who is not learning on the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 We've got a GM who is a winner and highly respected in the league. Yes, he's not been a GM before, but it is logical to assume that he is getting input from Pollian, AJ Smith, and others. Marv wants to win and he knows how to win. He is not going to hire a a coach that will have a high proability of failure. Won't happen. Before we condem the Jauron hire, can we at least wait and see what Marv and Dick have to say? Talk about jumping the gun, a sportswriter speculates that the OC "may be" Jauron's OC in Detroit and people are already criticizing that "hire". Wait and see what is said. At least we will have a coach who is not learning on the job. 579744[/snapback] Yes, we will wait. And hope all turns out well, or at least respectable. Welcome to the forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 We've got a GM who is a winner and highly respected in the league. Yes, he's not been a GM before, but it is logical to assume that he is getting input from Pollian, AJ Smith, and others. Marv wants to win and he knows how to win. He is not going to hire a a coach that will have a high proability of failure. Won't happen. A coach with a history of losing doesn't have a probability of failure? What? You can be optimistic about Jauron, fine, but you can't deny that the odds are against him. Given what we know - he has a history of failure, our players have a history of failure and we have a general manager with no experience - the probability is the Bills will fail. At least we will have a coach who is not learning on the job. 579744[/snapback] Well, he is, actually. He'll be learning how to win, hopefully. Jauron does not have a history of winning. Therefore, he needs to learn how to win. Frankly, I think most people would prefer a rookie HC with a history of success then an experienced HC with a history of failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Yes, he's not been a GM before, but it is logical to assume that he is getting input from Pollian, AJ Smith, and others. 579744[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerstm Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 At least we will have a coach who is not learning on the job. 579744[/snapback] Your right he won't be learning.. We all know he sucks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkie Gerzowski Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 a coach who was able to win in the past. As a gm he has no track record, unless he was moonlighting as one in his CFL days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obie_wan Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 580040[/snapback] always good to take advice from your competitors whose job depends on them outperforming you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gogolak Posted January 23, 2006 Author Share Posted January 23, 2006 Look at what Jauron did in Chicago- at that time he was with a losing organization-no upper management that was committed to getting the right players-Jim Miller, Shane Mathews, Kordell Stewart: Name a coach who could win championships with those guys? I am not saying that Jauron is the next Belichick, but the negativity that we hear on the board now, would have been worse if we had hired Belichick after he was fired from Cleveland. The team needs players and a coach who knows what he's doing and has the respect of the players. Give the man a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gogolak Posted January 23, 2006 Author Share Posted January 23, 2006 Are you suggesting that Marv is not getting legitimate input from Pollian? Are you suggesting that Modrak is not giving his input, as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC-Bills Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Look at what Jauron did in Chicago- at that time he was with a losing organization-no upper management that was committed to getting the right players-Jim Miller, Shane Mathews, Kordell Stewart: Name a coach who could win championships with those guys?I am not saying that Jauron is the next Belichick, but the negativity that we hear on the board now, would have been worse if we had hired Belichick after he was fired from Cleveland. The team needs players and a coach who knows what he's doing and has the respect of the players. Give the man a chance. 580078[/snapback] Unfortunately, you're going to be wasting you time with these retards. They seem to know *everything* about running an NFL organization from behind their keyboards Nice post and welcome to the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gogolak Posted January 23, 2006 Author Share Posted January 23, 2006 Unfortunately, you're going to be wasting you time with these retards. They seem to know *everything* about running an NFL organization from behind their keyboards Nice post and welcome to the board. 580093[/snapback] Thanks. They're not retards- they are frustrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC-Bills Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Thanks. They're not retards- they are frustrated. 580102[/snapback] Actually, hang around for a while. You will see that some of these people are actually retards. Some are frustrated, I will give you that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 We've got a GM who is a winner and highly respected in the league. Yes, he's not been a GM before, but it is logical to assume that he is getting input from Pollian, AJ Smith, and others. Marv wants to win and he knows how to win. He is not going to hire a a coach that will have a high proability of failure. Won't happen. Before we condem the Jauron hire, can we at least wait and see what Marv and Dick have to say? Talk about jumping the gun, a sportswriter speculates that the OC "may be" Jauron's OC in Detroit and people are already criticizing that "hire". Wait and see what is said. At least we will have a coach who is not learning on the job. 579744[/snapback] OK, yet we also must admit we have an 80 year old rookie GM, who has been out of the game for 8 years. To make one even more skeptical, he has stumbled with every move he's made so far. 1.) Was going to keep MM as HC, yet forced him to fire a considerable number of his coaches., which really allowed him to lead, didn't it? MM did the wise and prudent thing by resigning. 2.) Our 80 year old rookie GM couldn't bring himself to rule himself out as HC. That took his senior, Ralph< to finally put that to bed. 3.) Had a chance to bring in an experienced HC with a solid track record, yet he chose to bring in his buddy from Chicago. Cronyism? You bet, but then Marv wasn't above this when he was our HC (Corey, Bresnahan in particular) so we shouldn't have been surprised. Sorry, but in these eyes, Marv is not off to a sterling start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gogolak Posted January 23, 2006 Author Share Posted January 23, 2006 OK, yet we also must admit we have an 80 year old rookie GM, who has been out of the game for 8 years. To make one even more skeptical, he has stumbled with every move he's made so far. 1.) Was going to keep MM as HC, yet forced him to fire a considerable number of his coaches., which really allowed him to lead, didn't it? MM did the wise and prudent thing by resigning. 2.) Our 80 year old rookie GM couldn't bring himself to rule himself out as HC. That took his senior, Ralph< to finally put that to bed. 3.) Had a chance to bring in an experienced HC with a solid track record, yet he chose to bring in his buddy from Chicago. Cronyism? You bet, but then Marv wasn't above this when he was our HC (Corey, Bresnahan in particular) so we shouldn't have been surprised. Sorry, but in these eyes, Marv is not off to a sterling start. 580126[/snapback] 1. Mularkey quit. Do you know, for a fact, that Marv "forced" him to quit ? 2. So what? 3. Do you know that Mike Sherman was a more compatible fit within the organization than Jaron? Remember, that last "name with a track record", TD, was answerable to only himself. I guess to many, Marv's 2 weeks so far, are a failure because he hasn't won the Super Bowl yet. We haven't had a good coach since Marv left, (and please don't say Wade "jump up and down" Phillips and his buddy, Ronnie Jones), Jauron has experience with a mediocre organization. Let's see what he can do in Buffalo. Give the man a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realist Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Frankly, I think most people would prefer a rookie HC with a history of success then an experienced HC with a history of failure. 580037[/snapback] Yeah, like Greg Williams and Mike Mularkey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 Yeah, like Greg Williams and Mike Mularkey. 580219[/snapback] Ol' Greggy's looking pretty good now, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John in VA Beach Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 Ol' Greggy's looking pretty good now, eh? 581035[/snapback] He came as a good coordinator and left as a good coordinator. GW could not manage a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanners Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 He came as a good coordinator and left as a good coordinator. GW could not manage a game. 581040[/snapback] Or hire a competent staff. His first staff was putrid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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