BenchBledsoe Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 I heard brave talk about us making a big splash in free agency this year. . . Are you guys kidding me? Well, you are kidding yourselves if you believe it. This team is widely considered a joke right now. If the money is about even, they'll go anywhere else. We'd have to overpay FAs to come here, at this juncture. That's not good for cap purposes, obviously. Also, do you really think, after a cheap HC hire like this, that Ralph is going to go all out and really open up the wallet this off season for FAs? Please. Ralph's going to add a few mid/lower level FAs to pacify the angry mob a bit. . . nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_wag Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 I heard brave talk about us making a big splash in free agency this year. . . Are you guys kidding me? Well, you are kidding yourselves if you believe it. This team is widely considered a joke right now. If the money is about even, they'll go anywhere else. We'd have to overpay FAs to come here, at this juncture. That's not good for cap purposes, obviously. Also, do you really think, after a cheap HC hire like this, that Ralph is going to go all out and really open up the wallet this off season for FAs? Please. Ralph's going to add a few mid/lower level FAs to pacify the angry mob a bit. . . nothing more. 579589[/snapback] money talks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartshan-83 Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 I feel you, but money talks. FAs will come if we show them the green. Not that there is any real indication that we will do that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenchBledsoe Posted January 23, 2006 Author Share Posted January 23, 2006 money talks 579593[/snapback] Yes, exactly. And other teams will show them more of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_wag Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Yes, exactly. And other teams will show them more of it. 579599[/snapback] we shall see.........given our current cap room, we should be quite active in free agency........there are holes to fill and that is the fastest way to address them.....obviously if certain cuts are made (moulds/williams/etc) the possibilty of a big free agent splash becomes more likely....... drawing conclusions that jauron was chosen over sherman based soley on money is foolish....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Yes, exactly. And other teams will show them more of it. 579599[/snapback] The Bills will undoubtedly have to pay a "disorganized organization" premium to attract better FA's. The question is, how large that premium will be--10% above what an "attractive franchise to play for" offers, 20%, 30%, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenchBledsoe Posted January 23, 2006 Author Share Posted January 23, 2006 we shall see.........given our current cap room, we should be quite active in free agency........there are holes to fill and that is the fastest way to address them.....obviously if certain cuts are made (moulds/williams/etc) the possibilty of a big free agent splash becomes more likely....... drawing conclusions that jauron was chosen over sherman based soley on money is foolish....... 579604[/snapback] drawing conclusions that Jauron was chosen over Sherman based solely on money is foolish? Yes. It wasn't solely the money, Marv's buddy needed a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_wag Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 drawing conclusions that Jauron was chosen over Sherman based solely on money is foolish? Yes. It wasn't solely the money, Marv's buddy needed a job. 579619[/snapback] or perhaps he just thought that jauron was the best man for the job? funny how TD bought 4 years of "i'll give him the benefit of the doubt on that move", but levy, a proven winner, is getting raked over the coals from day one.......have a little patience..... or continue to freak about free agents hating us and our cap room, whatever does it for ya........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 I heard brave talk about us making a big splash in free agency this year. . . Are you guys kidding me? Well, you are kidding yourselves if you believe it. This team is widely considered a joke right now. If the money is about even, they'll go anywhere else. We'd have to overpay FAs to come here, at this juncture. That's not good for cap purposes, obviously. Also, do you really think, after a cheap HC hire like this, that Ralph is going to go all out and really open up the wallet this off season for FAs? Please. Ralph's going to add a few mid/lower level FAs to pacify the angry mob a bit. . . nothing more. 579589[/snapback] Oh sure, because everyone knows that the Patriot's dynasty was built on expensive free agents! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 I heard brave talk about us making a big splash in free agency this year. . . Are you guys kidding me? Well, you are kidding yourselves if you believe it. This team is widely considered a joke right now. If the money is about even, they'll go anywhere else. We'd have to overpay FAs to come here, at this juncture. That's not good for cap purposes, obviously. Also, do you really think, after a cheap HC hire like this, that Ralph is going to go all out and really open up the wallet this off season for FAs? Please. Ralph's going to add a few mid/lower level FAs to pacify the angry mob a bit. . . nothing more. 579589[/snapback] There seems to be some risk. Prior to B'gals owner Mike Brown changing his evil ways, they hired several FA's on their downside who were looking for a late-career meal ticket. LB Kevin Hardy, picked up after the leaving of TKO, was a noteable exception - gutsy player, great attitude - but declining skills. He gave it his best shot. But the popular perception was that the better FA's didn't want to come here. I don't know how one could quantify such, though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenchBledsoe Posted January 23, 2006 Author Share Posted January 23, 2006 Oh sure, because everyone knows that the Patriot's dynasty was built on expensive free agents! 579642[/snapback] You can't seriously put us in the same boat as the Pats, can you? Their coaching and scouting against ours? We need all the help we can get. You're not advocating us avoiding free agency this off season are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 How do any of us know how the Bills are regarded around the league. Are any of us coaches or players in the NFL? To say that no FA's are going to want to sign here because the coaching/GM? I love how Buffalo fans are always doom and gloom no matter what happens. Lets say sherman was hired cause he has a good track record. So did TD, did that work out for us? TD was the best available guy for the job when he was hired. How many other openings did Sherman interview for or was regarded as their top choice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 You can't seriously put us in the same boat as the Pats, can you? Their coaching and scouting against ours? We need all the help we can get. You're not advocating us avoiding free agency this off season are you? 579660[/snapback] Sure. We passed on Charlie Weis and took the more qualified Mularkey. Now, we've upgraded again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodnarb Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 It won't be. We're not going to be able to attract the guys who are in this to win, and those are the guys you want. We'll get a few guys looking for a paycheck and we'll overpay for them because we'll have no choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Movinon Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 I heard brave talk about us making a big splash in free agency this year. . . Are you guys kidding me? Well, you are kidding yourselves if you believe it. This team is widely considered a joke right now. Based on your assertion that Buffalo is widely considered a joke I am assuming you have been in discussion with potential free agents? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Lets say sherman was hired cause he has a good track record. So did TD, did that work out for us? TD was the best available guy for the job when he was hired. 579674[/snapback] It did work out from a FA signing standpoint (TKO, SA, LM, TV). Spikes couldn't wait to get out of Cincy and sign with a legit organization. Now we have the reverse situation. You really think the players and their agents are so naive that they don't follow what's happening in a city before they consider signing somewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 It did work out from a FA signing standpoint (TKO, SA, LM, TV). Spikes couldn't wait to get out of Cincy and sign with a legit organization. Now we have the reverse situation. You really think the players and their agents are so naive that they don't follow what's happening in a city before they consider signing somewhere? 579756[/snapback] I feel really bad for Spikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Okay we attracted TKO, LM, SA, and TV. And that got us how many playoff births? How many of those guys are being considered over the hill and should be cut by all the "experts" on this board? I know players and their agents look into a team before signing with them, but how do we know what this team looks like from a players/agents side? Just because WGR or ESPN is reporting the franchise is in turmoil must make it true cause they have been right 100% of the time (whens Haslett being named our new coach?)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Okay we attracted TKO, LM, SA, and TV. And that got us how many playoff births? How many of those guys are being considered over the hill and should be cut by all the "experts" on this board?579774[/snapback] At the time those FA's were signed, they were about as high profile as they come. TD put all his eggs in the "win now" basket with those signings, and now they're on the downside three years later. Which makes his flip-flop to "building for the future with JP" so galling, based on those signings. I know players and their agents look into a team before signing with them, but how do we know what this team looks like from a players/agents side? Just because WGR or ESPN is reporting the franchise is in turmoil must make it true cause they have been right 100% of the time (whens Haslett being named our new coach?)?579774[/snapback] Man, this is a multi-billion dollar business we're talking about. Player agents have contacts at every level of every organization. If they want to find out how the poops' flying, they can definately do so. They don't have to lisent to "GR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
envirojeff Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 or perhaps he just thought that jauron was the best man for the job? funny how TD bought 4 years of "i'll give him the benefit of the doubt on that move", but levy, a proven winner, is getting raked over the coals from day one.......have a little patience..... or continue to freak about free agents hating us and our cap room, whatever does it for ya........ 579639[/snapback] Good, solid points (like yours) are flamed on a regular basis at the "Bill Grill". I havent posted in quite some time because of it. Lots of haters on this board who get a thrill out of blasting smart posts. That's fine, I'll go back to the sidelines and watch. Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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