Rich in Ohio Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 kerry in a speech today said that he has one position on Iraq, and that is all that he has ever had. he he he he he ....is he kidding??? Please, stop the insanity....... This guy is totaly disconnected from reality. Does he realize that people actually keep track of these things? Well there is 42 days left before we cast our votes. By my count that gives him 42 possibilities for his final position on Iraq. Good luck johnny, keep up the good work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 kerry in a speech today said that he has one position on Iraq, and that is all that he has ever had. 40372[/snapback] True or false, the fact that he felt the need to even make such a statement shows how badly he is failing to get his message across. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 A re-run of his words when he was in a battle with Dean during their primaries is a hoot to listen to. They were "Kill 'em All and Let God Sort 'em Out" stuff... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmate Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 kerry in a speech today said that he has one position on Iraq, and that is all that he has ever had. he he he he he ....is he kidding??? Please, stop the insanity....... This guy is totaly disconnected from reality. Does he realize that people actually keep track of these things? Well there is 42 days left before we cast our votes. By my count that gives him 42 possibilities for his final position on Iraq. Good luck johnny, keep up the good work. 40372[/snapback] Bush has taken some distinct positions on Iraq too. September 2002--they have weapons of mass destruction Septemeber 2002--we should have UN help regarding WMD March 2003--Saddam has ties to al-Qaida and will share weapons of mass destruction with them March 2003--we don't need help from UN April/May 2003--Mission Accomplished Fall 2003--Saddam had two mobile trailers to make biological weapons Winter 2004--no weapons of mass destruction, but Saddam was a brutal dictator and needed to be eliminated as a world threat Spring/Summer 2004--we needed to go into Iraq to bring it democracy Fall 2004--we need UN help to stablize Iraq I think that is 9 distinct positions on Iraq for Bush too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 Bush has taken some distinct positions on Iraq too. September 2002--they have weapons of mass destruction Septemeber 2002--we should have UN help regarding WMD March 2003--Saddam has ties to al-Qaida and will share weapons of mass destruction with them March 2003--we don't need help from UN April/May 2003--Mission Accomplished Fall 2003--Saddam had two mobile trailers to make biological weapons Winter 2004--no weapons of mass destruction, but Saddam was a brutal dictator and needed to be eliminated as a world threat Spring/Summer 2004--we needed to go into Iraq to bring it democracy Fall 2004--we need UN help to stablize Iraq I think that is 9 distinct positions on Iraq for Bush too. 40840[/snapback] Don't forget, We needed to provide humanitarian relief to the Iraqi people. Which, of course, made him more of a bleeding heart than the supposed bleeding heart liberal like Dean who said we should not have gone in at all, in any form. Single-handed paradigm shift from 70+ years of conservative ideology, and getting in the White House with the phrase "no nation-building." Welp, looks like that brilliant strategy went breasts-up 6 months in.... Wow, maybe the Dems were right with the philosophy that it's better to spend a $40M worth of the carrot than $200B and 1,000 soldiers worth of the stick. That's why W and his ilk are labeled "neo-cons." They left conservativism in the dust on their way to the extremist right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkFast Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 Another HUGE Gaffe by Kerry, IMO. By taking the "Howard Dean" approach to the war, he moves his position further LEFT, AWAY from the "undecideds" and towards one that couldnt even win a Democratic Primary and further, one Kerry himself lambasted when he debated Dean last Winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 Another HUGE Gaffe by Kerry, IMO. By taking the "Howard Dean" approach to the war, he moves his position further LEFT, AWAY from the "undecideds" and towards one that couldnt even win a Democratic Primary and further, one Kerry himself lambasted when he debated Dean last Winter. 41165[/snapback] When has he taken the Howard Dean approach, short of the Talking Heads saying he has, that we never should have gone into Iraq? He has said that the war is being run by a jackass instead of letting the generals do their jobs (much the same way LBJ micromanaged Vietnam and killed more troops than the VC...), and getting a true international coalition (by opening the contracts up to more than Haliburton, b/c it's all about the money, sad to say). Short of that, we'll need more troops in there. The strategy isn't working, you can be bull-headed or you can propose solutions. Everything can't be summed up by a six-word sentence. Simply accusing someone of being a flip-flopper, a charge that's been used in Pres. races since the '50s, but that still doesn't make it true. "The only issue that isn't complex is one you haven't yet looked at in detail." -- A great nutrition science prof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkFast Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 When has he taken the Howard Dean approach, short of the Talking Heads saying he has, that we never should have gone into Iraq? He has said that the war is being run by a jackass instead of letting the generals do their jobs (much the same way LBJ micromanaged Vietnam and killed more troops than the VC...), and getting a true international coalition (by opening the contracts up to more than Haliburton, b/c it's all about the money, sad to say). Short of that, we'll need more troops in there. The strategy isn't working, you can be bull-headed or you can propose solutions. Everything can't be summed up by a six-word sentence. Simply accusing someone of being a flip-flopper, a charge that's been used in Pres. races since the '50s, but that still doesn't make it true. "The only issue that isn't complex is one you haven't yet looked at in detail." -- A great nutrition science prof. 41314[/snapback] What the !@#$ does anything you said have to do with my point that Kerry's position on Iraq made yesterday may cost him votes becuase it moves him further left and away from undecided voters??!!?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain America Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 The only position Kerry will have , is in November when he bends over and grabs his ankles :I starred in Brokeback Mountain: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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