Bill from NYC Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 I bet Dillon will see more balls thrown his way now that Faulk is out 6-8 weeks. !@#$ing injuries! 458147[/snapback] With those stats provided by MDH, are you going to completely abandon the nonsensical comparison of Henry to MaGahee? I thought the suspension might have swayed you as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 It was always more about McGahee vs. the hype that's heaped upon him. I've never contended that he's a bad back. With Dillon looking every bit of over 30, I'd glady take him on the Pats. 458006[/snapback] I think, though he still has flaws, he is starting to live up to that "hype" with 9 100 yd games in 14 starts and the YPC going up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollywood Donahoe Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 I think, though he still has flaws, he is starting to live up to that "hype" with 9 100 yd games in 14 starts and the YPC going up. From what I've seen (not much, just numbers) it seems that McGahee's been real good in 2 of the first 3 games this year. If he continues on this pace, I'll give him his props. I was just hesitant about dubbing him an all-pro after a 4.0 YPC performance in 10-some-odd starts last year. That said, the decision to draft him will always be a head-scratcher to me, given what was known at the time. Sure, you can point out what's happened since with Henry, but that's always seemed somewhat self-fulfilling to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollywood Donahoe Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 That's news to me..what happened? Belichick's the one who made it known, so the super-detailed report is: "a leg injury" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Belichick's the one who made it known, so the super-detailed report is: "a leg injury" 458165[/snapback] Heh. Anything on the practice squad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 From what I've seen (not much, just numbers) it seems that McGahee's been real good in 2 of the first 3 games this year. If he continues on this pace, I'll give him his props. I was just hesitant about dubbing him an all-pro after a 4.0 YPC performance in 10-some-odd starts last year. That said, the decision to draft him will always be a head-scratcher to me, given what was known at the time. Sure, you can point out what's happened since with Henry, but that's always seemed somewhat self-fulfilling to me. 458164[/snapback] I can understand that, as even many Bills fans felt the same way. I was initially shocked with the pick but it made sense to me because it was a pick we "Stole" from Atlanta and McGahee was a top 5 talent (if recovered) at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollywood Donahoe Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Heh. Anything on the practice squad? Kory Chapman was on the PS, but the Colts plucked him. Pats just signed Amos Zereoue, although I imagine Patrick Pass will be the one who gets more carries/catches as a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Kory Chapman was on the PS, but the Colts plucked him. Pats just signed Amos Zereoue, although I imagine Patrick Pass will be the one who gets more carries/catches as a result. 458187[/snapback] [/quote If he still has some gas in his tank, Z is not a bad choice. I got excoriated here 2 years ago for advocating him as a cheap, effective acquisition, only to see some sing his praises and want him last year. Go figure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATBNG Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 "Superstar" status doesn't really concern me. It's about wins, and I think that a guard (Eric Steinbach?) or a TE (Dallas Clark?) would've actually filled a need and contributed in '03, possibly leading to more wins. An injured RB who was chosen to eventually replace a guy whose production he's not yet matched does none of those things. 457910[/snapback] I've always taken the tack that you can't go back and look at a draft and pick one or two players that ended up being steals and make valid arguments about the job that a GM did. Every team in the league should have taken Brady and Terrell Davis before the sixth round - there are always going to be steals and busts in every draft. So, with McGahee, I think that it is reasonable to look at the 10-15 players taken just after him and conclude that it wasn't exactly a bountiful collection at Donahoe's disposal. 2003 NFL DRAFT FIRST-ROUND PICKS Pick Team Name 23 Buffalo WILLIS MCGAHEE 24 Indianapolis DALLAS CLARK 25 New York WILLIAM JOSEPH 26 San Francisco KWAME HARRIS 27 Kansas City LARRY JOHNSON 28 Tennessee ANDRE WOOLFOLK 29 Green Bay NICK BARNETT 30 San Diego SAMMY DAVIS 31 Oakland NNAMDI ASOMUGHA 32 Oakland TYLER BRAYTON I think Steinbach looks like a nice player on paper (I think Clark is more difficult to evaluate because of the offense he plays in and because he also has had injury problems in his career - would he have been an effective Bill these last three years? I have real doubts about that.). As far as everyone else goes, you have a lot of disappointing players. Harris is a bust thus far. Woolfolk hasn't be productive or healthy. Davis is an end of the roster guy. Joseph finally became a starter this year. Asomugha seems to get picked on whenever I see him. Barnett is popular but overrated. In context, while I think it was reasonable to suggest that the pick was risky when it was made, McGahee has worked out well for Buffalo. Among those ten players, I doubt there would be many knowledgable NFL people who would rate McGahee's professional career so far lower than second on that list of ten. Steinbach might get some sentiment as 1. Plus, it's nice to see a guy come back from ripping all three ligaments in his knee anytime, but especially this week. Point is though that medical technology has come a million miles in the last decade in this regard, and that significantly mitigated the "risk" on this selection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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